AP poll

[SDSUJack3031]

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I could not agree more about the women are like gonzagas men. They will be competing against and beating ranked teams from major confrences regularily i feel. Hopefully the men can get close to that status in the future as well. Then other teams would strive to be the SDSU's and not the gonzagas of mid majors.

As long as AJ stays here for awhile.

[WestSideRabbit]

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Well Gonzaga has somehow mananged to hold on to Mark Pew(sp?) since their recent run of success. I have no idea what his contract with the zags looks like, but we've already held onto AJ once... maybe we can do it again???

[goon]

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Well Gonzaga has somehow mananged to hold on to Mark Pew(sp?) since their recent run of success. I have no idea what his contract with the zags looks like, but we've already held onto AJ once... maybe we can do it again???

Prolly not with out facility upgrades and such which we are doing but prolly the most pressing is job security, getting a long term contract. Not sure what he makes compared to other mid major or other coaches but i bet most of them have longer then a 1 year deal to keep them around.

[joeboo22]

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contract to contract AJ probably makes about the same as most coaches. Where it hurts AJ is with incentive agreements/shoe contracts and the other money that big time coaches get put into there contracts.

[Jacks#1Fan]

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Prolly not with out facility upgrades and such which we are doing but prolly the most pressing is job security, getting a long term contract. Not sure what he makes compared to other mid major or other coaches but i bet most of them have longer then a 1 year deal to keep them around.

I've seen previous posts on the issue of long-term contracts on other threads, and want to clear up what is definitely a myth...long-term contracts don't keep coaches. Of course, in South Dakota it doesn't matter anyway, since multi-year contracts aren't allowed. Good coaches, especially those who might be courted by larger schools, don't worry about job security. They make their decisions based on three things: money (including fringe perks), how comfortable they are with the reputation of the school's decision makers on how they treat coaches, and the "fit" with the pursuing school.

Likewise, a coach looking to make a move, who applys elsewhere, is also not going to be concerned with breaking a contract if they want to move. Colleges at our level don't get coaches to sign "buy-out" clauses, so offering them long-term contracts doesn't mean a thing. (Yes, coaches who have multi-million dollar contracts may agree to buy outs, which the next school usually pays if they hire them away.)

Bottom line: Find good people to coach (which means they might move on or up if they're good), treat them right, do your best to fund them appropriately, and then accept the facts of life if and when they do decide on a change.

[jackmd]

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I've seen previous posts on the issue of long-term contracts on other threads, and want to clear up what is definitely a myth...long-term contracts don't keep coaches. Of course, in South Dakota it doesn't matter anyway, since multi-year contracts aren't allowed. Good coaches, especially those who might be courted by larger schools, don't worry about job security. They make their decisions based on three things: money (including fringe perks), how comfortable they are with the reputation of the school's decision makers on how they treat coaches, and the "fit" with the pursuing school.

Likewise, a coach looking to make a move, who applys elsewhere, is also not going to be concerned with breaking a contract if they want to move. Colleges at our level don't get coaches to sign "buy-out" clauses, so offering them long-term contracts doesn't mean a thing. (Yes, coaches who have multi-million dollar contracts may agree to buy outs, which the next school usually pays if they hire them away.)

Bottom line: Find good people to coach (which means they might move on or up if they're good), treat them right, do your best to fund them appropriately, and then accept the facts of life if and when they do decide on a change.

I'd say this is true for a lot of professions. It definitely applies to me. I'd go into the details but no one cares. Bottom line, it isn't about money or prestige its about relationships and people. If it is about money and prestige for you, good luck with that.

Now, security in the job? That could be an issue. However, I think our coaches realize that our administration is going to stand behind them as long as they are doing the best job they can. Look at it from the positive side, coaches are locked in to any contract. They can leave for any opportunity they wish to pursue.

[thebluehatman]

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Attempting to get back on topic of polls....

How fun is it to slowly rack up enough votes to be in the AP and coaches polls.

I think if the wins keep coming...we're in top 25 by sometime in January!!

[tattoo]

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Attempting to get back on topic of polls....

How fun is it to slowly rack up enough votes to be in the AP and coaches polls.

I think if the wins keep coming...we're in top 25 by sometime in January!!

We will be in the top 25 by the 15th of December! You heard it here first!

[rabidrabbit]

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We will be in the top 25 by the 15th of December! You heard it here first!

IF we are 10-1 at that point, we may make it.

[rabidrabbit]

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Dolphin Rating has SDSU as 15th in the Nation.

http://www.dolphinsim.com/ratings/ncaa_wbb/

Gonzaga is 14th, Minnesota 31st.

[filbert]

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IF we are 10-1 at that point, we may make it.

Depends on how many other teams from "big" conferences are also 10-1 or thereabouts . . . almost every poll voter will take a 10-1 Big State U over a 10-1 South Dakota State U any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Our women will need to kick the door in. They're not going to open it if they just knock politely.

[TeamPlayer]

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I read that they got 11 votes in the ESPN poll.

[1stRowFANatic]

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Just remember that early season dpi's are less accurate and more volatile then the meaningless early season human polls.

[rabidrabbit]

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Sagarin's Rating as of 12/7

15 Maryland
16 Gonzaga
31 Minnesota
33 SDSU
44 Utah
53 Montana
57 Wisconsin
68 Valpo
108 Oral Roberts
134 UC Davis
141 Oregon
159 Illinois

[NorCalJack]

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Here is the AP poll results for Dec. 8th

AP Top 25
1.Connecticut (45) 6-0 1125
2.North Carolina 9-0 1076
3.Stanford 6-1 1010
4.Texas A&M 8-0 940
5.Oklahoma 6-2 878
6.Texas 8-0 846
7.Tennessee 6-1 844
8.Notre Dame 7-0 784
9.California 7-1 763
10.Baylor 7-1 721
11.Duke 6-1 685
12.Louisville 7-1 645
13.Auburn 10-0 637
14.Rutgers 3-2 526
15.Maryland 7-2 514
16.Pittsburgh 6-1 419
17.Virginia 7-2 380
18.Ohio State 7-2 365
19.TCU 8-2 317
20.Vanderbilt 8-2 202
21.Purdue 5-3 164
22.Arizona State 6-2 161
23.Florida 8-1 138
24.Oklahoma State 3-2 91
25.Kansas State 7-0 90

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Georgia Tech 79, Wisconsin 36, Old Dominion 29, South Dakota State 27, Xavier 27, New Mexico 18, Minnesota 14, Marist 13, Michigan State 13, Gonzaga 10, DePaul 9, Marquette 7, Bradley 4, Wake Forest 4, Wisconsin-Green Bay 4, Arkansas-Little Rock 2, St. Bonaventure 2, Utah 2, Cincinnati 1, Iowa State 1, Mississippi State 1, Richmond 1,



Well we went from receiving 12 votes to 27 votes this week, tied for 29th overall. This weeks games will really dictate if get into Top 25 or not.

Go State, Go Jacks