NDSU Game Thread

[Lakesbison]

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OH GOD.. those 2 people have more class than you know.

you're making a mountain outta a molehill... and besides, APPARENTLY at SDSU ... the men's team takes the back burner... so why are you all having a hissy fit over a couple seats at a LESS THAN PACKED arena in the middle of winter of a horrible season ...

please.. just give it up..

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I sure dont have have a problem with Dr. or Mr. Hungerford doing this. He might be wanting a good seat in Fargo and if he has friends and relatives that follow the Bison, then when we go north, Hungerford might have a good seat. No big deal as far as I am concerned. I think we owe the Bison fans something for setting an attendence record at CAS a year ago, so why be hostile about one guy giving his tickets to friends or relatives?

As someone who has frequently had better seats than what the NDSU guys had for better events than a SDSU/NDSU basketball game, I definitely don't have a problem with someone giving their seats away. Sometimes it is nice to have connections, and it I know it is a privilege when those types of tickets are given to me.

With that being said, any season ticket holder that gives their seats away should know that they are responsible for the actions of the people who sit in those seats. I have heard more than one story of people who have had their season tickets taken away when the person they gave their seats to did something stupid (fights, drinks thrown, verbal altercations with other season ticket holders, etc).

So the wise word to all season ticket holders would be to make sure that the people you give your tickets to act with some class. I don't think it would be out of line for someone at the athletic dept to give Mr. Hungerford a call and let him know (in a nice way) that if he is not going to use his seats, make sure the people in those seats act with some class.

[JackFan96]

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To say we'll makethe NCAA tournament is to be a homer. Sorry, that's just a fact. When is the last time we've won three straight games of any type? Five years ago? Maybe my memory is bad. If we've done it since, it's certainly included NAIA wins. Well, there won't be any NAIA teams on the schedule the rest of the way -- and certainly not in the conference tournament, that's for sure. And while we are at "home," during the tournament, we won't be at Frost -- where we practice daily. The team has done better this year, but there's not much more to say. The close losses have put is in a dangerous spot. Getting into the conference tournament is the bare minimum acceptable finish to the season. No excuses, no debate. That's it. Period. We can play with most teams in the conference at Frost, but have yet to prove we're much of a threat on the road. After next weekend, we'll know a lot more. Two home losses and we can quit talking abount any tournament, conference included. I don't think that will happen, but I'm nowhere near believing we should be expected to win the next two, either.

[joeboo22]

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A couple of good wins this weekend and I think the team will be back on track.... I think some fans forget how far this team has come in the last 3 years alone.... From having football players play, not even being in games, loosing very bad, to what the team has done this year is pretty good.... now its not good enough and they need to get over the hump if they want to win games but some people should look back and say hey this team may not be there yet but they have come a long way from where they were just a couple of years ago...

[filbert]

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As miserable as we might sometimes feel for (and about) our men's team, Sagarin has SDSU as the #5 team in the Summit League:

86 North Dakota State 78.08
111 Oral Roberts 75.65
126 Oakland-Mich. 74.90
198 IUPUI 69.87
231 South Dakota State 68.22
236 Southern Utah 68.05
245 IPFW 67.51
251 Centenary 66.98
269 UMKC 65.71
312 Western Illinois 61.60

Basically at the half way point in the conference season it's NDSU all by themselves; then Oral Roberts and Oakland fighting it out for second place, then the bunch of average teams from #4 and #9, then Western Illinois, bringing up the rear right now.

Granted there's a razor's difference between #4 and #9, but the season is far from lost. A little more poise down the stretch in the coming nine games and we should make it to Sioux Falls. We fans need to follow the same kind of advice we'd give the team--don't panic, keep your head, and execute. We need to at least split the home games next weekend, and after that can't afford another home loss. Getting a road win somewhere would certainly help in making it to the conference tournament, too. It will probably come down to that last conference game in Shreveport, unless a couple of other teams just collapse down the stretch. We don't want to be one of those teams!

Let's beat the Jaguars and the Grizzlies!

[goon]

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Yes I agree, we need and must win those close ones. Too many games have been lost in the last minute, but I think we can always improve on defense in the other 39 minutes. Do the D improvement, and the final minute goes by with no signifcance, especially if the Jacks got 10 or more on the scorebroad, then our opponent.

Sometimes people say ohh that team got all the breaks, we have heard it before. I always feel you make your own breaks. its not the other team gets lucky, well, not often anyway. You have to make your breaks, as in chances and oppertunities. I feel we are so very close to that soon, we are the team holding a lead(NDSU and other games) or if we have to come from down a few points we can actually close it out and win it.(MN game). To be so very close I think is impressive for still a rather young team, we have a few JRs to lead us but they have been about the only mainstay the whole transition. They have gotten us so close but i think they can get us over the top yet.

[Nidaros]

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Anyone care to join me in this statement?
Time to expect 6-3 the rest of the way. Maybe better.

Rather than lament a lost season, it is time to say: 6-3 is not only possible, it is expected.

I've said it before in another post. I think six wins gets you in the tournament. But I believe the Jacks will be playing only for a better seed on the final road trip.

Anyone disagree that the anger and disappointment on this board over the last month is different from immediate seasons past? Different in this way: It has been far more to do with inexperience or shots not falling, rather than lack of effort or being overmatched.
This is not pollyanna, this is a fact: Jacks are about three bad minutes at the end of the last three games from potentially being 6-3, and a game out of first place.
Now, it is undeniable that the same things at the end of games keep happening. But at some point, a breakthrough - a last second shot that falls; a screwup by the other guys at game's end; one or two key Jacks recognizing they've been here before and doing something to overcome it; heck, even unabashed luck - is going to happen.
Halfway point in a season of promise and disappointment is a perfect time to expect more progress than disappointment. Cup half full and filling. Anyone disagree?

Yes I agree, we need and must win those close ones. Too many games have been lost in the last minute, but I think we can always improve on defense in the other 39 minutes. Do the D improvement, and the final minute goes by with no signifcance, especially if the Jacks got 10 or more on the scorebroad, then our opponent.

[NoVaJack]

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Anyone care to join me in this statement?
Time to expect 6-3 the rest of the way. Maybe better.

Rather than lament a lost season, it is time to say: 6-3 is not only possible, it is expected.

I've said it before in another post. I think six wins gets you in the tournament. But I believe the Jacks will be playing only for a better seed on the final road trip.

Anyone disagree that the anger and disappointment on this board over the last month is different from immediate seasons past? Different in this way: It has been far more to do with inexperience or shots not falling, rather than lack of effort or being overmatched.
This is not pollyanna, this is a fact: Jacks are about three bad minutes at the end of the last three games from potentially being 6-3, and a game out of first place.
Now, it is undeniable that the same things at the end of games keep happening. But at some point, a breakthrough - a last second shot that falls; a screwup by the other guys at game's end; one or two key Jacks recognizing they've been here before and doing something to overcome it; heck, even unabashed luck - is going to happen.
Halfway point in a season of promise and disappointment is a perfect time to expect more progress than disappointment. Cup half full and filling. Anyone disagree?

[mitchellrabbit]

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After next weekend we go to IUPUI and Western Illinois, both who are tied with us. That will be a huge road trip. IUPUI, what has happened to them? They almost beat Arizona St, beat Seton Hall(who knocked off Georgetown today) and theyve lost 5 of 6 in conference i think. I think we break our conference road losing streak on that trip. We go 5-4 in the 2nd half of the conference schedule and make the tourney as the 6th seed. Im always an optimist, its healthier.

[goon]

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I don't know about you, but since I'm not a coach or a player, just a fan, I -=DO=- want to forget it, and you're just not helping.

I see a posibility to make the NCAA tourny if you ask me. If Sioux Falls crowds are as good as we think they will be sizewise how much improved our men are at home, I feel in that tourny we could very well beat any other team in the confrence no matter the seeding. Simple as that, if we have the fan support Its more then posible, no fan support not a prayer. compared to confrence play from last year I am happier will what we are doing, we are going in the right direction, just not fast enough. A few more hard close games in rough conditions are only going to help this team i feel. we are not giving in and hanging our heads like we felt they did last year. Hate to see what this team can do when they figure it all out. actually i would love to see what they can do, but you get my point. they are literally plays and seconds away from turning these games around and i think they will still do that this season. And I wouldnt be a very good fan if i didnt. Frankly come summit tourny time I think we should be the team others are afraid to play. I will change my mind if we dont make the tourny, but hell our high water, this team can more then prove it self during the tourny. Lose close games now other teams overlook us we figure out make a few adjustments and WHAM staight to the kisser a hows your uncle and we are putting on our dancing shoes, or atleast donating them to coach nagy for the sumaritan shoe drive.

[bub94]

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To me, it looked like only one of the NDSU fans sitting in the front row seats was acting like an assk (taunting the student section was the main one). I have no problem with season ticket holders exchanging tickets to out-of-town fans IF they know the fans are going to behave.

Year after year, it seems like the Summit League refs we have working the games (both the men's and the women's) are getting worse and worse (not just against SDSU, but against both teams). The Summit League really needs to look into getting new refs. There needs to be constant calls from all refs on what is a foul, and what isn't. Are they going to let physical play go one night and not the next? Is a hand check a foul tonight but not the next night? If a player gets thrown to the ground (i.e. Rotert last night), is that really a foul (ummmm yeah)? The commish and the schools need to get together and get rid of the crappy refs and find some quality ones.

I'm not using this for an excuse for Friday night. I'm making a general comment regarding the refs.

[zooropa]

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You don't ever want to forget that.

I don't know about you, but since I'm not a coach or a player, just a fan, I -=DO=- want to forget it, and you're just not helping.

[goon]

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Complete meltdown, enough said...that also includes the last 1:04 of regulation. I'm with packer, erase that memory from my head as quickly as possible.

I think your wrong. You don't ever want to forget that. what happened how it happened, If you forget and let it go it will still come back to haunt you. I would replay that last minute of the game everyday before practice for the players and every other close game they lost in the final minute untill they know what it takes to win those games. We have the talent, we were with in a minute of victory but that final minute was just as important as the first 39. If we play the final minute as good and hard as we do the first 39 we have 3 wins instead of losses. Dont ever forget what happened and work twice as hard next time to prevent it from ever happening again. To ignore what happened and forgetting it will never make it better or help, just my thoughts.

Im completely dissapointed in the outcome. We really should have won, we drove to the basket for layups also we missed several more then they did, I think they got layups to easy but they converted um, we didnt. We had chances, the ball rolls a few centimeters the other way and goes in, we win, but it doesnt, seems to be our teams life story, how many times can they be so close with out rolling in.

In all honestly, NDSU the "great" (sarcastic) summit league team who beats everybody and senior loaded out worked us to get the game, barely. Coulda woulda shoulda, we were close but did not do enough to win but I see a turning of the tides next year for sure. Im not writing off this team but we have most of them coming back is what excites me, a few new additions maybe a healthy davis, NDSU loses its core of its best players and as far as i can tell is not bringing in anyone close to their talent and abilities, however we lose 1 while gain 3 or 4 and bring back our core group, if we lose again next year is when i will really be pissed but I will accept this one that we lost. Could have won but we didnt and I am ok with the loss, just the way that we lost is i think what the problem is. Sorry for the long winded respone but I think it had to be said or if i missed it, repeated.

[EQguy]

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Amen, I am sure there are SDSU fans out there that do the same thing, and frankly I'd be just as upset/sad for them as i was for those 4 NDSU guys.

[UWMandSDSU]

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Rabbitinverm:

Thanks for contacting me off the board, and as I said I was not at the game and did not observe the behaviour you noted in the PM, so this was not good thing for fellow doners to JC, and my apologies for mentioning the word "hostile' when discussing Bison Fans and their behaviour. Some of these fans are great people, and some act like jerks and make the others look bad, and that may be the case Friday Night that is Jerks and not gentlemen or ladies. I missed the game in person btw.

If you give your tickets or trade them or whatever to other people, you should know who they are and how they will behave especially if they are courtside. Good points.

My thoughts exactly. I have no problems with people giving their tickets to Bison fans, what I did not like is these Bison fans were IMO trying to attract more attention than the game itself.