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  • #31
    Re: Bracketology

    Fun to discuss but as the conference season goes on our RPI is only going to drop. Even if we continue to win all our games. And since we are now in the 60s for RPI we, or any other SL team, has zero chance of a at-large bid.

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    • #32
      Re: Bracketology

      Summit is a 1 bid league this year and for the foreseeable future. The only way that changes is consistent play against OOC opponents with top 100 RPI's. So, scheduling and careful selection of future conference members are keys not to mention recruiting and developing players that compete at the high mid-major level. Focus for now needs to remain on conference games for seeding and then peaking for the tourney in Sioux Falls.
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      • #33
        Re: Bracketology

        Gottlieb just said ORU should get in as an at-large if they lose in the finals on College Gameday. Katz picked JackrabOabits to win the tournament. The other dude said SOS is going to hurt them but Gottlieb made a good point about if Tennessee gets in so does ORU. Tennessee lost to Oakland and ORU beat Oakland twice. I guess this debate isn't over yet...
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        • #34
          Re: Bracketology

          Originally posted by jackmd View Post
          Summit is a 1 bid league this year and for the foreseeable future. The only way that changes is consistent play against OOC opponents with top 100 RPI's. So, scheduling and careful selection of future conference members are keys not to mention recruiting and developing players that compete at the high mid-major level. Focus for now needs to remain on conference games for seeding and then peaking for the tourney in Sioux Falls.
          In fact the league is working on this--I think I saw that the league was cutting the allowable non-D-I games for league members to one a year. What I'd like to see is some kind of grand scheduling alliance between some of the "forgotten" D-I conferences where they work together to schedule their top teams against one another, to try to build up their RPI's while also guaranteeing quality home games. If you have the Summit, Big Sky, Southland, OVC, Big South, Atlantic Sun (for instance) all go in and say "we'll get together and say that the teams we expect to be at the top of our leagues will schedule each other in the non-conference" they could basically ratchet their RPI up another notch or two--especially by playing away games against decent quality opponents. Think of a kind of mega-BracketBusters, but one geared towards benefiting the schools and the conferences, not ESPN.
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          • #35
            Re: Bracketology

            Originally posted by filbert View Post
            Think of a kind of mega-BracketBusters, but one geared towards benefiting the schools and the conferences, not ESPN.
            A sports alignment that doesn't benefit "The World Wide Leader" first? Heresy!
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            • #36
              Re: Bracketology

              How about a Big Sky Summit League Challenge or something to that effect? Doesn't have to be Big Sky but perhaps a better mid-major where all our teams play all their teams each year and the winner keeps the traveling trophy each year. Would be a lot of fun!

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              • #37
                Re: Bracketology

                Originally posted by AugieJackFan View Post
                How about a Big Sky Summit League Challenge or something to that effect? Doesn't have to be Big Sky but perhaps a better mid-major where all our teams play all their teams each year and the winner keeps the traveling trophy each year. Would be a lot of fun!
                Similar to the ACC-Big Ten Challenge that happens in the early part of the season (I think)?
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                • #38
                  Re: Bracketology

                  It's really an intriguing concept ,one conferences teams playing another conferences teams.You'd really get some mismatches though if you had an upper confrence team playing a lower conference team.The Big Ten and ACC (I think they did it with the Big 12 this year) are pretty well matched top to bottom though,so the wins aren't too drastic for one conference dominating the other.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Bracketology

                    This year college basketball is really down. You have Kentucky and Syracuse who are the top of the land, you have North Carolina who is up there when they want to be, there is Kansas and Missouri who I don't think are that good but their rankings are up there, then you have a drop off and have the Ohio States and the Dukes who when they are on they can go up and compete with the top level teams but they don't always do it. Then you have like a San Diego State and UNLV who are solid teams but are not great by any means. the PAC-12 is a 1 bid league this year, or at least should be. ACC is down, the Big East is down, the Big 12 is down, the Big 10 will get schools in but I don't think any are that good. Whereas then I think the argument is, if you can't go .500 in your conference, which isn't that good in the first place do you deserve a bid over a mid-major?

                    I think selection Sunday will be an interesting day.

                    As far as lining something up with a conference like a Bracketbuster I think it would work, the other option would be getting some type of a scheduling deal with another conference.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Bracketology

                      Originally posted by joeboo22 View Post
                      This year college basketball is really down. You have Kentucky and Syracuse who are the top of the land, you have North Carolina who is up there when they want to be, there is Kansas and Missouri who I don't think are that good but their rankings are up there, then you have a drop off and have the Ohio States and the Dukes who when they are on they can go up and compete with the top level teams but they don't always do it. Then you have like a San Diego State and UNLV who are solid teams but are not great by any means. the PAC-12 is a 1 bid league this year, or at least should be. ACC is down, the Big East is down, the Big 12 is down, the Big 10 will get schools in but I don't think any are that good. Whereas then I think the argument is, if you can't go .500 in your conference, which isn't that good in the first place do you deserve a bid over a mid-major?

                      I think selection Sunday will be an interesting day.

                      As far as lining something up with a conference like a Bracketbuster I think it would work, the other option would be getting some type of a scheduling deal with another conference.
                      Every year when a mid major butler or vcu or g mason make a deep run. That solidifies the imporatance of mid majors.

                      Plus it captivates the nation. Honestly what's gonna be a bigger story. Example sdsu or oral roberts making round of 32 or sweet 16 or vrigina tech lossing in the first or second round. Nothern iowa perfect exmaple what a mid major can do for headlines in the dance.
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                      • #41
                        Re: Bracketology

                        Be nice if Summit got two bids....but doubt it would happen. I'd be cool with Nashville if SDSU is a 13th seed....hum and if that SEC team listed today at the #5 seed holds up.....would be a nice trip to Nashville. For lower seeds I doubt the selection committee takes into consideration geographic regions. For SDSU sake making the tournament is number 1 priorty....where they play, who they play doesn't matter. Al Davis philosophy....Just Win Baby!

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                        • #42
                          Re: Bracketology

                          Two bids for the Summit, Don't plan on it.
                          http://www.sdsucollegian.com/2012/02...nt-plan-on-it/
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                          • #43
                            Re: Bracketology

                            I think if ORU would have won tonight, and lost a close game tomorrow night they would have had a legit chance of getting an at large. However with them losing tonight, not playing good Saturday night on top of it, I think that hurts them. The type of game hurt them as well, they were up big and scored 2 points the last 7+ minutes. Its not like they got beat by a hot shooting team. I know that in theory the selection committee doesn't look at those things but I think they look at the media and the only person talking about them as an at large is Seth Davis. Their RPI had moved up to the 30's they had a handful of good wins and not too many bad losses. But you lose in the semi's against a good but not very well known team you lose your shot.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Bracketology

                              Originally posted by The Sports Block View Post
                              Two bids for the Summit, Don't plan on it.http://www.sdsucollegian.com/2012/02...nt-plan-on-it/
                              This was a very well written piece! Very good analysis that backs up the thesis that the Jacks better win tonight, because only the winner will dance from the Summit.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Bracketology

                                This morning Lunardi has us as a 13 seed playing Wisconsin in Portland.

                                http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

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