Rogers to WSU - next man up

[bigticket1]

MSU's DT coach was at SDSM&T in 2015 and 2017, and their CB coach was at NDSU (he played at Omaha and transferred to Bison after Omaha's FB program folded)

Any connections to Jackson for either one other than coaching in the same conference ?

[jakejc795]

yeah that and in the CFP

MSU's DT coach was at SDSM&T in 2015 and 2017, and their CB coach was at NDSU (he played at Omaha and transferred to Bison after Omaha's FB program folded)

[jakejc795]

Is it possible our next DC is on a sideline in Frisco tonight?

I wondered about that

[peavy]

Is it possible our next DC is on a sideline in Frisco tonight?

yeah that and in the CFP

[jbjack]

I wish someone could "force out" the identity of our mystery DC. I have a celebratory SDSU ice cream binge in the hopper

Is it possible our next DC is on a sideline in Frisco tonight?

[jakejc795]

It has been noted by several people that Stig was not yet ready to retire, but Jimmy made it know that if he was not named the head coach he was going to bolt. Stig then decided that it was more important to have someone within the program continue the tradition, therefore he stepped aside. That is being forced out.

I would note that this interpretation was not necessarily refuted by Stig during the Happy Hour episode jbjack cited.

Gaskins prefaced his question saying that Stig left because Jimmy was being offered DC on Dickert's staff and Stig said something like "well, yeah" before expounding on the plan and discussions he had with President Dunn and Justin Sellvadvicating candidates on the list he provided be considered.

[Jackrabbit2012]

It's possible several people have said this. I've never actually seen or heard anyone with direct knowledge confirm (or deny) this. I only know what Stig said, in his own words, to Gaskin last week. There was a timeline established six years ago. Stig said he was going to be done. Sell was made aware that he needed to start looking for a replacement, and ideally an SDSU man. It ended up being Jimmy, sure, but he wasn't forced out. He's been pretty candid about things lately. No reason to think he would be less than truthful about his retirement.

The meeting with Sell he was referring to was six years ago while Dan was still on staff and they discussed the strengths and weaknesses of Dan, Jimmy, and Eck as possible replacements once he retired. I'm fairly sure that Stig would never run Jimmy's name through the mud to the media. I have direct knowledge that this happened, but I'm guessing you are never going to read about it in a news article.

[jbjack]

It has been noted by several people that Stig was not yet ready to retire, but Jimmy made it know that if he was not named the head coach he was going to bolt. Stig then decided that it was more important to have someone within the program continue the tradition, therefore he stepped aside. That is being forced out.

It's possible several people have said this. I've never actually seen or heard anyone with direct knowledge confirm (or deny) this. I only know what Stig said, in his own words, to Gaskin last week. There was a timeline established six years ago. Stig said he was going to be done. Sell was made aware that he needed to start looking for a replacement, and ideally an SDSU man. It ended up being Jimmy, sure, but he wasn't forced out. He's been pretty candid about things lately. No reason to think he would be less than truthful about his retirement.

[Jackrabbit2012]

It has been noted by several people that Stig was not yet ready to retire, but Jimmy made it know that if he was not named the head coach he was going to bolt. Stig then decided that it was more important to have someone within the program continue the tradition, therefore he stepped aside. That is being forced out.

[jbjack]

That is the most irritating part about this whole situation. Forces out our 20+ year head coach at the height of the program. Stays for two years then leaves with all of our coaches, a lot of top end recruits and players. After all of this our fan base is told to relax by media and other fan bases because it is happening everywhere.

I guess I take back my whole "What was the point of it all" after considering Stig's own words. Stig's interview with Gaskin indicated that the timing was really set in motion about 6 years ago. Stig and wife had a timeline. To hear him tell it, he didn't get out of the way, wasn't forced out, didn't retire early to keep Jimmy around. Jimmy was made aware that the opportunity to be HC was coming and he passed up opportunities elsewhere to be HC here. Jimmy happened to be here when the music stopped.

I still don't like the way Jimmy left but the more I think about it, I think the biggest driver is/was getting paid now, while still being able to get paid. A lot has been said about FBS coaches and the golden age of HC salaries being over. With an increase of scholarships from 85 to 105 (an easy $1 million increase at most schools operationally) and revenue sharing, athletic departments are going to have to claw that money back somewhere. Particularly at the G6 level where there is relatively little money from media rights. 2, 3, 4 years from now, salaries at G6 schools are very likely to be 6 figures, not 7 (WSU, for instance, is reducing its athletics budget for 25/26 from $84 million to $75 million and Jimmy is make $1 million less than his predecessor each year. There was also talk of reducing scholarships from 85 to 79 before committing to max scholarships). And it is highly unlikely, no matter the success Jimmy would have had here, that he would get hired at a P4 school (Klieman at KSU is an outlier, the AD in Manhatten being his former AD in North Fargo). There's going to be a big rearrangement in athletic department budgets as a result the House Settlement and for young, aspiring coaches, now is the time to get paid.

[jakejc795]

Forces out?

I wish someone could "force out" the identity of our mystery DC. I have a celebratory SDSU ice cream binge in the hopper

[filbert]

That is the most irritating part about this whole situation. Forces out our 20+ year head coach at the height of the program. Stays for two years then leaves with all of our coaches, a lot of top end recruits and players. After all of this our fan base is told to relax by media and other fan bases because it is happening everywhere.

Forces out?

[JACKGUYII]

In retrospect, the Jacks might have been better off letting Rogers go to an FBS school as a LB coach or D-coordinator, keeping Stig on as head coach for another year, doing a search, and hiring a new head coach before the start of last season. Rogers inherited a Jaguar and is stripping off parts as he leaves. It's hard to watch.

This is 100% the way I feel and I imagine Stig.

[Jackrabbit2012]

Nobody saw the backstabbing coming. That’s why they call it a backstabbing.

That is the most irritating part about this whole situation. Forces out our 20+ year head coach at the height of the program. Stays for two years then leaves with all of our coaches, a lot of top end recruits and players. After all of this our fan base is told to relax by media and other fan bases because it is happening everywhere.

[salemjack]

Nobody saw the backstabbing coming. That’s why they call it a backstabbing.