Rogers to WSU - next man up

[bigticket1]

Jimmy gets $3M base salary plus some possible performance bonuses. But the $4M buyout of his WSU contract will come out of his salary. That's the first time that I have heard of this happening. Maybe it happens more often, but isn't made public.

[jbjack]

Other than the ongoing ISU dialogue, Jimmy didn't have time to recruit the staff, players and recruits while still on the payroll in Pullman prior to announcing like he did here. Remarkably, Wazzu appears to be letting future ISU staff stay on to coach the team through the bowl game. Is the Honor System really a thing they believe in? Did they not see what happened here last year? Unless the existing staff contractually reaffirmed their commitment to WSU, I'd have sent all those scoundrels out the door the minute I knew Narcijimmy was leaving.

[jakejc795]

I counted close to 25 former Jacks players or recruits that are freshmen and redshirt freshmen on the WSU roster. You would think that most of them would make the move if offered, as it would get them closer to home. Just saw a report that Bobbit is moving with Jimmy as DC. If none of the former coaching staff stay in Pullman, it's hard to imagine a lot of the players staying.

There's an interesting account of the staff and player meetings that transpired after Rogers got the Cyclones gig. On the one hand, it sounds like he often mentioned a connection with Pollard to assistant coaches, that Pollard "constantly texted Rogers," and chance he'd get hired if Campbell ever left.

On the other hand, it sounds like staff and players were still surprised.

For as much as FCS is mentioned as a coaching "proving ground" and feeder for FBS, WSU has seen more turnover than SDSU.

[jbjack]

There are a lot of pretty highly regarded young defensive players there, especially LB's and DB's. If a lot of current Cyclone players and recruits follow Campbell and Jimmy needs a major rebuild, I could see Jimmy bringing them with. They already know his system, as opposed to bringing in a bunch of portal players from all over that need to be re-coached in a new system.

That's pretty much what I said. While those young guys were highly regarded from an FCS and maybe G6 stand point, there's a reason they weren't recruited by Big 12 schools to begin with. If Jimmy needs bodies, they'll be asked to Ames. But if you're a kid that was first recruited to Brookings to the loyalty/brotherhood schtick, and then to Wazzu, and then to Ames, are you buying it anymore? My guess is the pitch is going to be a lot harder for Narcijimmy to sell. A lot of these guys are going to be looking elsewhere.

[bigticket1]

How many of these guys will be offered a spot in Ames? Let's be real - as much as I'd have liked to see these guys in Brookings, are these guys that put ISU in a position to compete for Big 12 titles? The answer is probably "no" but the other consideration will be what kind of roster Jimmy has in Ames. How many current Clones will portal? What does a recruiting class look like?

There are a lot of pretty highly regarded young defensive players there, especially LB's and DB's. If a lot of current Cyclone players and recruits follow Campbell and Jimmy needs a major rebuild, I could see Jimmy bringing them with. They already know his system, as opposed to bringing in a bunch of portal players from all over that need to be re-coached in a new system.

[jbjack]

I counted close to 25 former Jacks players or recruits that are freshmen and redshirt freshmen on the WSU roster. You would think that most of them would make the move if offered, as it would get them closer to home. Just saw a report that Bobbit is moving with Jimmy as DC. If none of the former coaching staff stay in Pullman, it's hard to imagine a lot of the players staying.

How many of these guys will be offered a spot in Ames? Let's be real - as much as I'd have liked to see these guys in Brookings, are these guys that put ISU in a position to compete for Big 12 titles? The answer is probably "no" but the other consideration will be what kind of roster Jimmy has in Ames. How many current Clones will portal? What does a recruiting class look like?

[bigticket1]

is there a way we could move this topic OUT of the Jacks FB group. I would like to be done with the topic of JR. I cannot think of any reason for anything about this to continue to come up at the top of a list of Jacks topics

the thing that might be interesting about this is which of the Jacks who left will be leaving washington and will any consider a return to brookings? how many will get invited to stay with the lying weasel who clearly only uses words like family, brotherhood, and loyalty as part of a totally dishonest story to manipulate good people who actually DO care about those things to help him get what he wants

off the top of my head, I guess Shlimgen goes along to isu. i would also guess none of the RBs get the option of going. i would have to do some research to see how many players have eligibility left

I counted close to 25 former Jacks players or recruits that are freshmen and redshirt freshmen on the WSU roster. You would think that most of them would make the move if offered, as it would get them closer to home. Just saw a report that Bobbit is moving with Jimmy as DC. If none of the former coaching staff stay in Pullman, it's hard to imagine a lot of the players staying.

[LetsGoRabbits]

is there a way we could move this topic OUT of the Jacks FB group. I would like to be done with the topic of JR. I cannot think of any reason for anything about this to continue to come up at the top of a list of Jacks topics

the thing that might be interesting about this is which of the Jacks who left will be leaving washington and will any consider a return to brookings? how many will get invited to stay with the lying weasel who clearly only uses words like family, brotherhood, and loyalty as part of a totally dishonest story to manipulate good people who actually DO care about those things to help him get what he wants

off the top of my head, I guess Shlimgen goes along to isu. i would also guess none of the RBs get the option of going. i would have to do some research to see how many players have eligibility left

[jbjack]

Well... that's sure something....... I don't have anything nice to say about that.

The Washington State write-ups indicate that Jimmy openly talked with staff that if Cambell ever left Ames they'd have a real good shot at the job. Disgusting.

It all makes more sense. Pollard told Jimmy he needed to get a G5 job to get an Iowa State job. I wondered why he'd take a crappy job that guys like Vigenn would turn down. He was looking even further ahead. Jimmy's heart was never in Brookings. It was never in Pullman. Is it in Ames?

If I'm a coach recruiting against Jimmy it's pretty easy to point out that there isn't an ounce of sincerety in Jimmy and his loyalty, brotherhood, no BS schtick. But maybe recruits just assume that out of FB coaches these days. Lying narcissists. Yuck.

I hope all the Wazzu Jacks that followed him to Pullman have him a middle finger salute as his plane jetted off to Ames yesterday.

[RahRahRabbits]

An interview with ISU AD Pollard, talks about Jimmy at the 3:35 mark. Turns out Jimmy and Jamie had a bromance down in Austin a few years back and fell in love. Jamie then gave Jimmie advice on what he needs to do to become the ISU head coach, kind of explains the hasty departure for WSU, Otz even gave this relationship his blessing.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1421414716264556

Well... that's sure something....... I don't have anything nice to say about that.

[jbjack]

Would normally agree, but NW is with Rutgers, the least valued/respected in the B10. Iowa St has a much easier path to the CFP.

If a coordinator wants exposure for head coaching opportunities, CFP is the best way to do it.

NW isn't the best B1G job by any means but B1G schools can pay coordinators and players better than Big 12. But who knows?

[jrd]

An interview with ISU AD Pollard, talks about Jimmy at the 3:35 mark. Turns out Jimmy and Jamie had a bromance down in Austin a few years back and fell in love. Jamie then gave Jimmie advice on what he needs to do to become the ISU head coach, kind of explains the hasty departure for WSU, Otz even gave this relationship his blessing.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1421414716264556

[AZjack]

That would be quite a catch and might have been more likely had NW not righted the ship and finished strong. Leaving a coordinator position at a B1G school for Big 12 is a step down.

Would normally agree, but NW is with Rutgers, the least valued/respected in the B10. Iowa St has a much easier path to the CFP.

If a coordinator wants exposure for head coaching opportunities, CFP is the best way to do it.

[Prairiehaas]

This reminds me of the ‘Cowboy’ coach at Sacramento St. Stayed 1 year and is now taking the OC position at Colorado for Coach Sanders…they are chasing opportunities and that’s it. They disregard any type of allegiance!! I guess that’s their prerogative!!! But, look at the top teams in the FCS…hire coaches with an allegiance to the team…is that over or was Rogers kind of a fluke hire…hope so!!!

I think the coach at Sacramento St left because the move to FBS is collapsing. I don't know why anyone, coach or player, would want to jump into that dumpster fire.

IMHO, SDSU promoted the wrong coordinator to replace Stigs. Water under the bridge.

I'm a bit more sanguine than another poster regarding Rogers recruiting in the region. A head coach that has been at 3 schools in 3 yrs may not be entirely appealing unless the current program has deep pockets. ISU does not. And look at the mess he has left in his wake.

I do agree with the comment on Freund, clueless. Mishandled Gronowski.

[73alum]

This reminds me of the ‘Cowboy’ coach at Sacramento St. Stayed 1 year and is now taking the OC position at Colorado for Coach Sanders…they are chasing opportunities and that’s it. They disregard any type of allegiance!! I guess that’s their prerogative!!! But, look at the top teams in the FCS…hire coaches with an allegiance to the team…is that over or was Rogers kind of a fluke hire…hope so!!!