NCAA screw job

[BitsTD]

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I told my wife she tore her ACL. Hopefully I was wrong. What did she do to it?

[zooropa]

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I told my wife she tore her ACL. Hopefully I was wrong. What did she do to it?

Nobody knows yet. I expect that nobody will know until this weekend.

I hate to say it but the Waco Trib writer doesn't seem like he's going to try and track down her status before then.

[Cowbell]

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One of the many things I love about AJ is how he keeps things in a positive light when speaking to the public or the press. I think it spills over to the players. Jenn W's comment about the defense getting lazy is a good example of that. Well that's the public side. In a few months, when the cameras are off and there are no reporters in sight, I'd love to hear the real take by AJ or some of the players. It won't change anything but it would be interesting to know what they really thought about Tuesday night.

What amazes me is the number of people in South Dakota who watched that game. A lot of them had never watched a women's basketball game before. To go toe-to-toe with an outstanding program like Baylor lifted the vision and spirits of many people-young and old.

We've arrived.

[EQguy]

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Fair enough, but just so everyone is one the record, fans really believe her writhing on the floor in pain (and anyone who has watched WBB for awhile immediately thinks ACL when they see that), going to the locker room to get the knee wrapped, limping around when she came back in and continuing to limp badly after the game was an elaborate scheme to get a player who has only shot 8 free throws all year long into the game? Doesn't that seem a little far fetched?

Nobody has said there was some elaborate scheme. I think if you look back at the game thread here and at the argus site you'll see that people felt bad for her and didn't want to see things end like that. The disappointing part is she was well enough to play and then as soon as she got fouled she started hopping around. The refs didn't even take a second look and just let Mulkey sub for her. Again, if our guy had gotten away with it you would have been screaming and we would be calling him a genius.
Now, what you don't need to do is come here and play victim. Just because the girl who subbed in only shot 8 freethrows all year doesn't mean she's not one of your top shooters off the bench. I had a friend that played college basketball and for his first year or so the main time he got off the bench was when the team needed a 3 or when someone was hurt and he needed to sub to shoot foul shots.

[JimmyJack]

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I told my wife she tore her ACL. Hopefully I was wrong. What did she do to it?

When she came back and played, I thought it might be a partial MCL tear. You can play with that, although it hurts a lot. Having had 5 knee surgeries myself, I was sympathetic to her plight. She's a competitor and wanted to continue to play. I think EQGuy made the point that adrenaline in a moment of great emotion like the shot by Griffin, can overcome a lot of things. Allison might have jumped around then. I'll bet she's not jumping around today.

I understand (and share) the frustration, but I tend to agree with "just me" that complaining about the refs diminishes the luster of a great game. I've always thought SDSU fans were above that (recall how we reacted to the incessant whining of NDSU fans after the Dakota Marker game).

But I'm not telling anybody how to feel about this. If you're mad, a discussion board is a good place to vent. We all had a lot of emotion invested in that team.

[Cowbell]

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I think it's fair to say that the people who come on this board, for the most part, rarely do much barking about the officials. The fact that there is so much commentary about what happened the other night speaks volumes.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I'm just curious if anyone remembers the Minnesota game two years ago. That was a good game, and most of us weren't complaining about officials after that.

[AvrgBear]

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I can understand what all of your fans are going through right now. Just a few years ago Baylor was the upstart team challenging the established programs and facing the same issue that you are. Back in 2004, we got seeded badly and then got robbed in a game against Tennessee on a controversial end-of-game call. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...nal-four_x.htm

Of course, Tennessee fans told us to get over it; they won and we lost. To an extent, I guess we did get over it, but the team and coach actually embraced the screw job and used it as a motivator for the next season, adopting a slogan of "Finish the job." In 2005, many thought we got screwed again on our seeding, but that only added fire to the team's ultimate push to the national championship that year.

I wish your team continued success in the coming seasons and hope that you don't let the unfairness of the system weigh you down, but are instead motivated by it for next year. I also hope that the NCAA puts us in separate regions next year and that we don't have to meet until the the finals.

[91jack]

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I can understand what all of your fans are going through right now. Just a few years ago Baylor was the upstart team challenging the established programs and facing the same issue that you are. Back in 2004, we got seeded badly and then got robbed in a game against Tennessee on a controversial end-of-game call. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...nal-four_x.htm

Of course, Tennessee fans told us to get over it; they won and we lost. To an extent, I guess we did get over it, but the team and coach actually embraced the screw job and used it as a motivator for the next season, adopting a slogan of "Finish the job." In 2005, many thought we got screwed again on our seeding, but that only added fire to the team's ultimate push to the national championship that year.

I wish your team continued success in the coming seasons and hope that you don't let the unfairness of the system weigh you down, but are instead motivated by it for next year. I also hope that the NCAA puts us in separate regions next year and that we don't have to meet until the the finals.

Thanks!
It's tough to lose a game like that. It's nice to hear kind words from the "other" side. Everybody will get over it but it just hurts initially.

[91jack]

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I'm just curious if anyone remembers the Minnesota game two years ago. That was a good game, and most of us weren't complaining about officials after that.

I heard they were going to rewrite the rule book after that game. So it didn't say the game was over at 0.00 because most clocks just go to 00.0. Did that ever happen? Minnesota fans had a reason to complain and the head of officials said they screwed up but the call wasn't clearly wrong according to the rule book. AJ watching the replay was what was against the rule book(at the time).

[Crashola]

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I can understand what all of your fans are going through right now. Just a few years ago Baylor was the upstart team challenging the established programs and facing the same issue that you are. Back in 2004, we got seeded badly and then got robbed in a game against Tennessee on a controversial end-of-game call. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...nal-four_x.htm

Of course, Tennessee fans told us to get over it; they won and we lost. To an extent, I guess we did get over it, but the team and coach actually embraced the screw job and used it as a motivator for the next season, adopting a slogan of "Finish the job." In 2005, many thought we got screwed again on our seeding, but that only added fire to the team's ultimate push to the national championship that year.

I wish your team continued success in the coming seasons and hope that you don't let the unfairness of the system weigh you down, but are instead motivated by it for next year. I also hope that the NCAA puts us in separate regions next year and that we don't have to meet until the the finals.

I also understand that Mulkey showed up for the first practice the following year with t-shirts for the entire team that simply said "0.2" That's a pretty cool idea. Perhaps the Jacks should consider something similar.

[91rabbit]

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What is most disheartening about this situation is that it appeared as if Mulkey, all theatric and such, indignantly determined that no stinkin' upstart team should dare to challenge an established program like Baylor and pulled out some obscure rule or whatever to possibly ensure a win.

Bottom line: I have lost all respect for Mulkey and Baylor. Baylor fans: Was it worth it?

[just me]

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What is most disheartening about this situation is that it appeared as if Mulkey, all theatric and such, indignantly determined that no stinkin' upstart team should dare to challenge an established program like Baylor and pulled out some obscure rule or whatever to possibly ensure a win.

Bottom line: I have lost all respect for Mulkey and Baylor. Baylor fans: Was it worth it?

Do you think Allison was subbed out because Mulkey thought SDSU was an upstart team, or do you imagine that she would have pulled an injured player in the same situation if they were playing a team like UCONN? Don't you think she was more concerned with winning the game and being in the moment than the name of the team she was coaching?

You lose all respect for a program because of a substitution? Allison was visibly hurt. Should Baylor have been forced to keep her in and play 5 on 4? Would it have been more "just"? Doubt Mulkey's actions had anything to do with the team she was playing.

[Crashola]

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After Baylor and Missouri invoked the rule this past week, at least one person at the NCAA believes it's time for a change.

http://www.doubleazone.com/2009/03/t...basketball.php

[zooropa]

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Totally agree with that guy. Change the rules!