NCAA screw job

[1stRowFANatic]

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Okay, IMO, SDSU was as good as (at least) oh, say, Cal in this tournament.

I would say they are as good as Baylor

And as for the substitution for an injured player rule, when did that become obscure and no one knew anything about? It has been that way for a long, long time. Back to when I was in junior high, which doesn't exist anymore because they are all called middle school, so it wasn't anything new.

[zooropa]

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BTW: Rachel Allison is expected to play

http://www.wacotrib.com/blogs/conten...to_play_s.html

[Just in the crowd]

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Texas made Gail Goestenkors the highest paid women's basketball coach in the Big 12 on Thursday morning. By nightfall, she had already slipped to No. 2.
The Baylor Board of Regents approved an eye-popping new contract for Kim Mulkey late Thursday. She agreed to a 10-year deal worth more than $10 million, according to a Baylor athletic department source.
It's an unprecedented pact from a school desperate to keep the person who put the Lady Bears on the map by winning the 2005 national title.
"It's a good feeling as a coach to have a good sense of security," Mulkey said. "The way it looks now, I'll spend the rest of my career at Baylor. Not many coaches have that security."
DANNY JOHNSTON/The Associated Press
Kim Mulkey became the highest paid Big 12 women's coach when she agreed to a 10-year deal worth over $10 million.

Mulkey is 183-53 in seven seasons at Baylor and guided the Lady Bears to six NCAA Tournament appearances.

[filbert]

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If I could, I'd lock up AJ with a long-term contract, too . . .

I wonder if the Foundation could hire him "part-time" with a 10-year contract to do public appearances and host the occasional TV show . . . completely separate from his full-time coaching duties as a state employee, of course . . .

[ColoradoJack]

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I can understand what all of your fans are going through right now. Just a few years ago Baylor was the upstart team challenging the established programs and facing the same issue that you are. Back in 2004, we got seeded badly and then got robbed in a game against Tennessee on a controversial end-of-game call. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...nal-four_x.htm

Of course, Tennessee fans told us to get over it; they won and we lost. To an extent, I guess we did get over it, but the team and coach actually embraced the screw job and used it as a motivator for the next season, adopting a slogan of "Finish the job." In 2005, many thought we got screwed again on our seeding, but that only added fire to the team's ultimate push to the national championship that year.

I wish your team continued success in the coming seasons and hope that you don't let the unfairness of the system weigh you down, but are instead motivated by it for next year. I also hope that the NCAA puts us in separate regions next year and that we don't have to meet until the the finals.

Now, this is class. Appreciate the comments Bear. GO JACKS!!!

[EQguy]

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Addressing Mulkey's antics. Did those complaining about them see any of the Summit Men's tournament? You want to talk about theatrics, Ron Hunter did more on the sidelines in the first 10 minutes of their game than Mulkey did in the entire game. Throw in Dane Fife, Greg Kampe and Shawn Sutton and Mulkey looks like a kitten on the sidelines.

[minnesotarabbit]

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If the front of our uniforms would of said Baylor, we would of had a 15+ first half lead & won for sure.

[SoDakJack]

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The officiating was suspect, but it did not cost the Jacks the game. It was a combination of poor shooting, and along with that, a few bad choices of shots.

How many times has Jill Young missed a wide open three? Not very often. And I would let her take that shot 100% of the time. Had she hit the open one with about 3 minutes left they would have been up 7. Instead baylor come down and gets a three point play. That is a 6 point swing.

Jenn was a perfect 18-18 in free throws in the Summit tournament. She is so good at them that AJ feels comfortable taking a time out so he can set his defense. She just happened to miss one.

The key to this loss was missed opportunities. It is easy to blame the refs because they did ruin the flow for both teams.

That being said, this year was a great year to build our reputation in D1 ball. Next year will be even more exciting now with our assumed pre-season ranking (another first for the program).

Great year ladies! And a great job in the tournament. One win and a great learning experience.

[JimmyJack]

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During one stretch near the end, we had a missed three by Young, a phantom foul and three-point play by Baylor, an airballed three by Muck, and a turnover by Rotert.

Any one of those possessions goes differently, and we're not having this discussion. It's just basketball. Bad officiating certainly comes with the territory (I saw three WELL-officiated games this year... and I saw all the home games.) We didn't make plays when we needed to, and when we opened the door, Griffin made a play. Game over.

It's frustrating as heck, no doubt. But it's the way things go sometimes.

I think this was particularly hard because fans didn't see the other two losses. One was a distant memory in Cancun, and the other was an early conference season game at Oakland. It's shocking because we had come to presume that these young women would always find a way to win.

[TeamPlayer]

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I disagree with anyone who thinks the two lady ref's didn't cost SDSU the game. Granted, inspite of the bad ref'n we had opportunities to win it. However, when SDSU was up by 14 and within a short span of 5-6 minutes later we have all our staters with 2-3 fouls each, any coach/player will tell you that your play has to change to play softer and give up some easy buckets just to keep your starters in the game.

Without that one sided ref'n, for the period where SDSU had an opportunity to put Baylor away with a 14 pt lead and building (just as they did TCU), I believe the ladies would have played as hard as they did all year and made it impossible for Baylor to come within double digits of the Jacks. Bad foul calls one way swung the momentum to Baylor, not bad fouls by the Jacks'.

[RabbitObsessed]

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a phantom foul and three-point play by Baylor,

Was that the foul called on Young? I was working on homework and my roommate was watching the game and he yelled "BULLSH*T!" at the top of his lungs and I looked up and it showed the replay going to commercial break and the angle was from under the basket and that was a TERRIBLE call. Jill didn't touch her at all on that lay-up.

[zooropa]

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Was that the foul called on Young? I was working on homework and my roommate was watching the game and he yelled "BULLSH*T!" at the top of his lungs and I looked up and it showed the replay going to commercial break and the angle was from under the basket and that was a TERRIBLE call. Jill didn't touch her at all on that lay-up.

Yeah, but the defender's going to get called on that nine times out of ten. It looked close from the initial angle, and from the ref's viewpoint behind Young, it's almost always going to be called. It wasn't a foul but it sure looked like one.

[SturgisJeff]

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I will admit when I make a mistake - so please don’t keep harping on it for the entire game! It is really not in my best interest to make a mistake. I am judged on my performance just like you are. I had a game at UCLA about three or four years ago when Baylor came to visit. This was a big game and it had barely started and I made just a really bad call on a Baylor player and I knew it. I could see the Baylor coach get up out of her seat and get ready to blast me. As I ran by, she yelled, "Melissa that was horrible! I can’t believe you made that call!" I was not happy with myself and knew she was right. As luck would have it, I also had the next call, which put me right in front of her. I knew it was coming and she let me have it. "That was the worst call I’ve seen in a long time. I can’t believe you called that. You are usually better than that!" Before I even realized what came out of my mouth, I said, "Coach, you’re right. But don’t give up on me yet - there’s a lot of game left." She didn’t say anything at first and I thought, "Wow that was a stupid thing to say because now you’ve given her even more angles to come at you even harder." As I was bracing for the next volley, she sat down and simply said, "Okay girl." I appreciated that chance and I didn’t have any more foul ups that game.

Melissa Barlow= one of the refs in the Bayler v State game.
http://probasketball.about.com/od/ho...lowreftips.htm

Melissa Barlow

Melissa Barlow has been a member of the WNBA officiating staff since its inception in 1997 and has worked the WNBA finals. She also has 15 years of experience as an NCAA Division I referee, and currently works in the Pac 10, Western Athletic, Mountain West, West Coast, and Big XII conferences. Melissa has worked ten NCAA tournaments, four national semifinal games, and four National Championship games. She is the 2004 Naismith Award recipient for women’s basketball. Melissa received a degree in biology from Pomona College in Claremont, California, where she also played basketball. She is a sales director for a pharmaceutical firm and enjoys golf, gardening and bicycling. Melissa resides in Long Beach, California.

[SturgisJeff]

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Mary Day
Want to share a
photo of this ref? Seasons tracked: 1998-1998
Total games: 1
States visited: 0
Most common conferences:SEC Rate this ref:
Last 3 seasons G FPG FSTD HM DQs Techs Ejections
1998-1999: 1 36.0 0.0 -12.0 1 0 0 Since 1996: 1 36.0 0.0 -12.0 1 0 0


Mary Day the other ref. Old stats but if she called 36 fouls in one game, her first, then ???

statsheet.com/mcb/referees/browse/D

[filbert]

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and yet, after 119 posts, the final score remains the same . . .

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oops, 120 posts . . .