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  • SDSU & USD WBB since the D-1 transition reflect my starting point: South Dakota GBB to D-1 WBB success is rare. SD produces on average one D! starter per year. Maybe less. in the prior 4 years, Burckhard, Timmer, and Selland. Lifting the programs above and beyond Summit League blowouts requires more than a single SD player/year. Which brings me to the point about SD's lower numbers who transition to D-1 success.

    Unless & until, SD GBB summer ball participation closes on MN, NE, IA, WI, & (maybe) ND, SD HS GBB in-season participation will drop further AND the original propositon above stands. Fewer summer touches by fewer GBB/MS players means more non-SD recruits. (( BTW, Koupal is on the All Iowa Attack, as was Ciera Duffy. Gylten, Timmer, & Ross went to North Tartan.))

    Sioux Falls Sanford trained five great prospects* for SDSU in the class of 2024, all East River kids. Rapid City Sports Commission announced an aggressive buidling plan, not yet funded, for youth sports. Need to build skill levels thru more competitions or accept the Summit League do-waa-diddy. Time, focus, and money are all in the equation.

    *Denotes questions over roster mgnt in 2024-25 - was it same-old scheme?
    Last edited by GrandpaLee; 06-04-2025, 09:08 AM.

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    • Player 25-26 26-27 27-28 28-29
      Brooklyn Meyer 6'2 Sr
      Madison Mathiowetz 5'9 Sr
      Ellie Colbeck 5'9 Sr
      Maggie Hartwig 6'1 Jr Sr
      Hilary Behrens 6'1 R-So R-Jr R-Sr
      Katie Vasecka 6'1 So Jr Sr
      Emily Fox 5'8 So Jr Sr
      Jaida Dunn 6'1 R-Fr R-So R-Jr R-Sr
      Mahli Abdouch 5'7 R-Fr R-So R-Jr R-Sr
      Claire Shepard 6'1" R-Fr R-So R-Jr R-Sr
      Brooklynn Felchle 6'3 Fr So Jr Sr
      Abby Hoselton 5'11" Fr So Jr Sr
      Hadley Thul 6'2" Fr So Jr Sr
      Trishelle Miller 5'8" Fr So Jr
      Audrey Shindelar 5'11" Fr So Jr
      Ruby Moore 5'7" Fr So
      Lauren Burckhard 6'1" Fr So
      Totals 13 12 13 10
      Projected starters in BOLD - Top Reserves in italics
      Last edited by GrandpaLee; 07-02-2025, 05:57 PM.

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      • Originally posted by GrandpaLee View Post
        Player 25-26 26-27 27-28 28-29
        Brooklyn Meyer 6'2 Sr
        Madison Mathiowetz 5'9 Sr
        Ellie Colbeck 5'9 Sr
        Maggie Hartwig 6'1 Jr Sr
        Hilary Behrens 6'1 R-So R-Jr R-Sr
        Katie Vasecka 6'1 So Jr Sr
        Emily Fox 5'8 So Jr Sr
        Jaida Dunn 6'1 R-Fr R-So R-Jr R-Sr
        Mahli Abdouch 5'7 R-Fr R-So R-Jr R-Sr
        Claire Shepard 6'1" R-Fr R-So R-Jr R-Sr
        Brooklynn Felchle 6'3 Fr So Jr Sr
        Abby Holscher 5'11" Fr So Jr Sr
        Hadley Thul 6'2" Fr So Jr Sr
        Trishelle Miller 5'8" Fr So Jr
        Audrey Shindelar 5'11" Fr So Jr
        Ruby Moore 5'7" Fr So
        Lauren Burckhard 6'1" Fr So
        Totals 13 12 13 10
        Projected starters in BOLD - Top Reserves in italics
        I would think Maggie didn’t transfer here to come off the bench. Just going off of her numbers from her first 2 seasons in a comparable/better conference I think she has to start and Ellie comes off the bench.

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        • Last name for Abby is Hoselton.

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          • Originally posted by 98Jackfarmer View Post
            I would think Maggie didn’t transfer here to come off the bench. Just going off of her numbers from her first 2 seasons in a comparable/better conference I think she has to start and Ellie comes off the bench.
            Not trying to be arse in any way. Just throwing out my opinion. It’s not like the forum is overrun with posts!

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            • Originally posted by JamesJacks View Post
              Last name for Abby is Hoselton.
              My bad - I was properly corrected months ago and still messed it up.

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              • Originally posted by 98Jackfarmer View Post
                I would think Maggie didn’t transfer here to come off the bench. Just going off of her numbers from her first 2 seasons in a comparable/better conference I think she has to start and Ellie comes off the bench.
                I would expect that she will slot right into Byom's spot. Not as tall, but she should compliment Brooklyn really well.

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                • We all hope that MH (Maggie Hartwig) has talents/skills close to our previous inbound transfers, Haley Greer & Dru Gylten.
                  SDSU WBB is an order-of-magnitude difference in competitiveness and expectations.
                  Massey Rating: #311 Evansville earned 7-25 & 4-28 records.
                  Massey Rating: #37 SDSU earned records of 27-6 & 30-4.
                  Our roster depth largely remains intact - 3 seniors, MH is a Jr, and 9 players are younger - and hungry for PT after watching success after success.
                  Fire breathing, intensely focused, and full-tilt competitive - pre-season practices would be so fun to witness.

                  MH joins the fun now - game on

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                  • Originally posted by GrandpaLee View Post

                    We all hope that MH (Maggie Hartwig) has talents/skills close to our previous inbound transfers, Haley Greer & Dru Gylten.
                    SDSU WBB is an order-of-magnitude difference in competitiveness and expectations.
                    Massey Rating: #311 Evansville earned 7-25 & 4-28 records.
                    Massey Rating: #37 SDSU earned records of 27-6 & 30-4.
                    Our roster depth largely remains intact - 3 seniors, MH is a Jr, and 9 players are younger - and hungry for PT after watching success after success.
                    Fire breathing, intensely focused, and full-tilt competitive - pre-season practices would be so fun to witness.

                    MH joins the fun now - game on
                    Valid points, I hope she is a difference maker though. I think she is.

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                    • Originally posted by 98Jackfarmer View Post

                      Valid points, I hope she is a difference maker though. I think she is.
                      Looking at things from a different angle, Hartwig likely was constantly double-teamed being the best player on a bad team. Now she gets to play off of Brooklyn who constantly attracts the double teams. Plus playing alongside three other players who all have the ability to score. With some ball movement, there should be plenty of good looks to be had.

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                      • Abby Hoselton not Abby Holscher on the chart?

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                        • I would expect Hartwig to be a big contributor this season. She had to be a center of attention at Evansville. It is also expected that we might see a true freshman as a contributor. Abdouch may be the favorite to pick up where Paige left off. How will Vasecka be placed in the lineup? The coaching staff will have the luxury of a deep and competitive bench. Happy 4th of July!
                          Best to remember these are kids and they are doing everything they can to entertain us, be scholars, and all in all be great humans. Jackedforlife

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                          • I'm guessing that 6-1 Claire Shepard also competes for the fifth starting position. 6-3 Brooklynn Felchle could be a factor, too. There appears to be a lot of potential and depth on the team.
                            This space for lease.

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                            • Four recent McDonalds nominees chasing minutes Abdouch, Behrens, Hoselton and Vasecca

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                              • unlike the MBB program
                                AJ has never used a single post lineup on a heavy amount of minutes. IF that continues then one of 2 things will happen. Hartwig will be one of the starters OR Vasecka will be ready for heavy minutes at the 4 spot
                                AJ recently has utilized posts like Myah or Tori who could step outside. Mesa was obviously NOT a ball handler at the level of Myah or Tori (yes I know Tori was more of a big guard who went into the post when needed, but she did play the 4 spot in her career), but obviously Mesa did step outside

                                the Jacks have had plenty of guards who were good rebounders, BUT in moments when Maggie is NOT on the floor with Brooklyn, we will probably see Brooklyn dominate the boards at a level she has never neede to do in her Jacks career
                                also obviously, based on her first 2 years and already having over 500 career boards, when Maggie is on the floor minus Brooklyn i VERY MUCH expect her to clean the boards

                                that is an interesting question-
                                WHO do you predict to lead the 2025-26 Jacks WBB in rebounding
                                if Maggie and Brooklyn are close in minutes, I will not be at all surprised if Maggie leads the team

                                finally, it very much DOES feel like Abdouch is expected to be the natural step into the shoes that Paige leaves behind. that does seem like the most likely scenario, being Mahli opens the season as the starting PG
                                but I do believe there is a chance that Maggie starts and Ellie also starts and Mahli is the first player off the bench

                                i was VERY impressed and a bit surprised how good Claire looked in the 3 on 3 games with Brooklyn, Maddie, and Mahli
                                based on that I do think she battles for time, but i would say if she hits the starting lineup during this season it means we have had BIG injury trouble, OR she has jumped the ladder in a HUGE way!!!

                                i also think that I will be surprised if 1 or both of Thul and Hoselton do not end up ahead of Claire in PT for the season
                                Felchle, the third freshman, feels VERY likely to do what most of the freshman did last year and RS
                                but we do not have a ton of posts so maybe there is an opening for her to surprise

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