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    Originally posted by witness View Post
    I'm pretty sure he's saying they have the potential to be in that category not that they are which I can somewhat agree. Who's to say in 5-10 years they won't be??
    Me. I'm going to say that.
    Originally posted by JackFan96
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      I don't understand the inferiority complex that is so prevalent in South Dakota. SDSU is quite a bit bigger than Butler and Gonzaga. It's not unrealistic to hope that the Jacks can match smaller schools like those two in success, over time. Despite being small schools that lack glitz, Gonzaga and Butler built themselves, over time, into D-1 powers. Why shouldn't SDSU strive for a similar level of success?
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        Originally posted by Jacked_Up View Post
        I don't understand the inferiority complex that is so prevalent in South Dakota. SDSU is quite a bit bigger than Butler and Gonzaga. It's not unrealistic to hope that the Jacks can match smaller schools like those two in success, over time. Despite being small schools that lack glitz, Gonzaga and Butler built themselves, over time, into D-1 powers. Why shouldn't SDSU strive for a similar level of success?
        Great post. + Rep.

        South Dakota people typically think small. Obviously State isn't close to these teams with their success, but it's definitely the goal. Spending will need to increase, etc, but is it possible? Yes it is. Will it happen? Not any time soon that's for sure. State is at minimum 15-20 yrs away from it but to say it isn't possible is unrealistic. Most people from South Dakota thought the D1 move was a terrible decision. I think State is doing just fine.
        Disclaimer: This post may contain assumptions and/or opinions related to Jackrabbit Athletics.

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          The built-in advantage that both Butler and Gonzaga have is their location,and the talent base they have to recruit from relatively close to their campuses. There is a wealth of talent within a 250-300 mile radius of Butler,and Gonzaga is close enough to California to attract a lot of good players.

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            The mid-major who has had some success that you can expect somewhat for SDSU to turn into if they develop a program is Northern Iowa. Similar budget, similar facilities, get the better of the area recruits but nothing nationally ranked or anything when it comes to recruits. Might crack the top 25 once every 5-10 years. Make the tournament about 50% of the time. Win a game or two once every 3-5 years.

            I don't know if people understand how much Gonzaga's budget is, what they pay their coach, and everything else they have. If SDSU goes on a run for the next couple of years, Nagy is probably gone as well. The thing that has allowed Gonzaga to stay on the national scene is their budget. They are able to go out and recruit nationally, retain coaches, get nationally televised games, etc. Its not a knock on SDSU but I SDSU doesn't have the tools to be able to maintain success for long extended periods of time.

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              Originally posted by joeboo22 View Post
              The mid-major who has had some success that you can expect somewhat for SDSU to turn into if they develop a program is Northern Iowa. Similar budget, similar facilities, get the better of the area recruits but nothing nationally ranked or anything when it comes to recruits. Might crack the top 25 once every 5-10 years. Make the tournament about 50% of the time. Win a game or two once every 3-5 years.I don't know if people understand how much Gonzaga's budget is, what they pay their coach, and everything else they have. If SDSU goes on a run for the next couple of years, Nagy is probably gone as well. The thing that has allowed Gonzaga to stay on the national scene is their budget. They are able to go out and recruit nationally, retain coaches, get nationally televised games, etc. Its not a knock on SDSU but I SDSU doesn't have the tools to be able to maintain success for long extended periods of time.
              Not now...but 15-20 years from now...I expect us to at the least...look...like a UNI type program...nothing lessGo Jacks!!
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                Sorry, RO is right on this one, and its has nothing to do with an inferiority complex. I don't know what Joeboo22, is drinking recently but he has made some really good posts and his comparison to UNI is the latest. Lets try to get close to UNI in hoops in the next ten years. By the way they gave Louisville a run tonight.

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                  And I second boxerboy's and RO's comments. One trip to the big dance does not make us a Gonzaga or a Butler. Look how many years it took to build their programs. We got a great coach and slowly but surely a program is being built. I doubt we could beat either Butler or Gonzaga at Frost this year let alone on a neutral or away floor. Ten years from now, how many people in the media will remember SDSU played Baylor close 2012. Close only wins in horse shoes and hang garnades.

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                    You guys can be nagative nellies all you want but I agree with sinatra and the best is yet to come. No one said because we made the tourney one year we are the same as butler and gonzaga but if things go right in the future we can be and frankly should be. There was national media during the transition who saw the potential years ago to be like a gonzaga. Its sad our own fans can't.
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                      Originally posted by goon View Post
                      Like Gonzaga they might not win the confrence every year but you know their players, they have several games on national TV. WE probably wont see 4 and 5 star recruits picking us, I dont think we are that far from that happening of making the national coverage. Another great season like last year and it will be more realistic I think then most would beleive. Of course we could go back to barely being above .500 in confrence and we might just be a flavor of the week(year).
                      "Another great season like last year." Goon, we are not being "nagative nellies." IF, Nate Wolters turns in to the Next John Stockton, and we go deep into the dance five or six years in a row, will anyone think of SDSU in the same sentence as Gonzaga.

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                        You guys have hijacked this thread and brought this argument into a rather silly direction. Lets take this one season at a time and let's use this thread to discuss 2013 recruits.
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                          Originally posted by boxerboy View Post
                          "Another great season like last year." Goon, we are not being "nagative nellies." IF, Nate Wolters turns in to the Next John Stockton, and we go deep into the dance five or six years in a row, will anyone think of SDSU in the same sentence as Gonzaga.
                          Yeah, I said national coverage, meaning possible games on ESPN. Does not mean we are gonzaga or butler in a year. 2 seperate thoughts. I guess I like to think that SDSU has just reached its starting point, not its peak.
                          "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                          Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                            http://tinyurl.com/bchdewqLink to the second part on Anders. 400 made shots a day 6 days a week. Impressive. Very humble.

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                              Originally posted by boxerboy View Post
                              Sorry, RO is right on this one, and its has nothing to do with an inferiority complex. I don't know what Joeboo22, is drinking recently but he has made some really good posts and his comparison to UNI is the latest. Lets try to get close to UNI in hoops in the next ten years. By the way they gave Louisville a run tonight.
                              I agree as well. The UNI comparison is very realistic and should be our next goal.
                              Originally posted by JackFan96
                              Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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                                Originally posted by RabbitObsessed View Post
                                I agree as well. The UNI comparison is very realistic and should be our next goal.
                                Outside of 2010 where they made it to the Sweet 16 they largely been mehhh... I'm sorry I just don't see making the tournament and losing in the first round as a goal that we should be trying to accomplish. 2010 was an abberration.

                                Just because you aim higher doesn't mean you will accomplish that high but I'd rather aim high and fall short than aim lower and reach that.
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