NAGY must ... Stay (for awhile)

[zooropa]

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People in glass houses should'nt throw stones

I don't expect my response to him to be taken seriously.

[gojacksgo]

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On the other hand, I don't know if this program has taken big enough steps and still has moments of playing really bad basketball. I had bigger expectations for this season (17/18 wins) since we returned almost all of our 08 roster and added 3 highly hyped recruits.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with you about your take on the record, but remember that we only saw 2 of those highly hyped recruits for the whole season. Chad White was injured very early in the season - early enough to get a medical redshirt. Could he have helped out for the full season? I think he would have gotten about as much PT as Wolters did.

[Nidaros]

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I thought we had this issue resolved and it had been put to rest. Some folks like to kick sleeping dogs.

I can congratulate USD on their fine season, but at the same time what USD and Boots did or did not do, has nothing to do with the future of Coach Nagy. I said before, that SDSU is luck to have him as a coach and I stand by that statement.

Lets not be side tracked with a comment from rockschalk who already has red marks in his reputation box. I going to move on not judge the merits of rockchalk comments. Good day.

[LakeJack]

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P.S. Congrats to USD on being the Champions of the worst conference in the NCAA. Dead last.

[zooropa]

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I don't know if this program has taken big enough steps and still has moments of playing really bad basketball.

Since firing a coach is a yes/no question, let me put this yes/no question to you:

Is the program moving in the right direction?

Assuming that you assigned the freak victory over Oral Roberts all the long-term weight that it deserved (minimal), you probably answered 'yes.'

Next yes/no question:

Is it reasonable to expect that a brand new coach would not only NOT set the program back, but move it forward faster than Nagy has moved it forward?

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There are things out there that are black and white, and personnel decisions are one of them.

You don't fire someone unless you're damn sure you can replace him/her with someone better.

With Nagy, how can you even begin to make a case that you could improve the stock of the program by firing him?

[JackrabbitGuy]

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No matter what you think of Nagy, the answer to this question is very simple. Until you can find a better coach that will agree to come to Brookings with the salary SDSU is able to pay and without the possibility of a mulit-year contract, we are blessed that coach Nagy is committed to this university and finds value in coaching and living here.

I don't see any other angle to discuss this matter until something changes drastically.

[joeybrownerHOF]

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P.S. Congrats to USD on being the Champions of the worst conference in the NCAA. Dead last.

Thank you

[jackmd]

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USD is the first men south dakota team to make a division 1 postseason tourny in South Dakota History..........I never thought I would say that!

We come up with too much excuses for our lack of success.

True as it pertains to men's basketball. The circumstances that lead certainly merit further discussion but won't change the stated fact.

As it pertains to excuses, I don't think we need to make any excuses. You don't transition to DI and have immediate success as defined by post-season appearances. Our women are unique in that fashion.

As my friends and I, longtime followers of SDSU men's basketball, have said; if the men had no luck things would be much better than they are.

[JACKGUYII]

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No matter what you think of Nagy, the answer to this question is very simple. Until you can find a better coach that will agree to come to Brookings with the salary SDSU is able to pay and without the possibility of a mulit-year contract, we are blessed that coach Nagy is committed to this university and finds value in coaching and living here.

I don't see any other angle to discuss this matter until something changes drastically.

I'm fine with Nagy in the short term and long term as the SDSU Mens Basketball Coach. However there are always good coaches out there seeking a coveted DI job that would gladly live in a community like Brookings and take the package SDSU is capable of offering. Let's not think we have to keep Nagy because there are no better alternatives.

[1stRowFANatic]

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And to follow on to JackGuyII, if anyone in the administration thinks that we have to settle, that is the time for reconsideration of whether that person is in the right job.

[mitchell]

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This is the first year of the Great West Basketball Conference (and the 2nd year for the CTI) so we couldn't have won/gone to either. Just as a frame of ref. Houston Baptist (who SDSU has never played) was the second place team in USD's "conference" and they finished below Centenary and SUU.

Think if our toughest conf. games were against Centenary and SUU, and everyone else was worse.

I was referring to the "Scheduling Agreement/Fake Conference" we played in during transition. We played against some equally horrible teams but didn't fair as well as USD did this year.

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As for the rest, I'm just tired of all of the excuses that us Jack fans have had to use to defend the program the past 6 years. There is truth in them, but an excuse is still an excuse. I'll side with keeping Nagy, but the time for babying this team is over. If they played with the focus and energy that should be expected of DI team, we would have had 4-5 more wins this year.

[rational thought]

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No matter what you think of Nagy, the answer to this question is very simple. Until you can find a better coach that will agree to come to Brookings with the salary SDSU is able to pay and without the possibility of a mulit-year contract, we are blessed that coach Nagy is committed to this university and finds value in coaching and living here.

I don't see any other angle to discuss this matter until something changes drastically.

Correct me if I'm wrong....Nagy was gone a couple years back if the ND coach would have gotten the job in NC....This is like any other business....you look out for yourself (& family)#1, your Assts. #2, and the University #3.....and likewise the University owes it to itself and Alumni to take care of Program #1......there is very little loyalty on either side....which is somewhat of a shame....IMO there has been more loyalty from the University in this case....

[zooropa]

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If they played with the focus and energy that should be expected of DI team, we would have had 4-5 more wins this year.

What's that cliché from all those old cop shows?

"I guess you've got a pretty good view from behind your desk."

I'm not trying to be mean, or rude, so don't take this the wrong way, but, who are -you- to call into question how those kids played?

Did -you- play this past season? Were -you- at Nagy's practices? What, in short, makes you think you've got valid insight into what this team is capable of?

Again, not trying to start a fight here. Just trying to insert a bit of perspective. It's way too easy for fans to act as though we know what IS going on and what SHOULD be going on. Maybe we should all just take a step back and realize we don't know.

[1stRowFANatic]

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Yeah, but then how would the phrase "Monday Morning Quarterback" ever have come into existence?

[SoDakJack]

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Please keep in mind that a majority of the anti-Nagy people that are suddenly posting on here weren't around when we saw the progress the team made this year. These lurkers were probably waiting (and most likely hoping) for the Jacks men to fail so that they can push their agenda.

I really don't put alot of stock in their arguments. But, they are amusing to read. (Think Glen Beck or Bill O'Reilly wearing Yellow and Blue.)