Playoff field

[bub94]

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[EverettGriz]

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We'll agree to disagree, Bub. How you can possibly fathom that one should ignore who played in last year's title game is beyond my ability to comprehend, apparently.

But then again, I prefer proven champions to computer champions.

[Jacks99]

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Now it really doesn't matter if you think you have the Championship Team: If you are the Championship team you would eventually have to beat the other one to be Champion anyways.

I'd also add that the top 16 are fairly close compared to other sports, levels etc. A first round loss, especially on the road, shouldn't be an embarrassment in this tourney.

This also ties into the strength of OOC schedule argument. I would rather play medium level teams to get a better chance at the post season. It's there that we can "play the best to be the best". More practices and games against top notch opponents should carry over to the next year as a big benefit.

[bub94]

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[EverettGriz]

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I'll probably regret this...

You can't judge this years team using last years results

Agreed. That's why JMU is not in the playoffs this year.

However, Montana's results this year are: 11-0. I'm not saying they should be seeded number one because they played in the National Championship last year. If I were saying that, I'd vote Richmond the number one seed. I'm saying Montana is the only choice for the number one seed because they were 11-0 THIS YEAR, and because they played in the title game last year.

Think of it this way: If Richmond and Montana both ended up 11-0, who should have been seeded first?

I doubt you'll find many that would argue Montana should be given that scenario. Why? Because Richmond won the title game last year. So even though they'd have identical records last year, the title would carry signifcant weight. However, since Richmond is NOT 11-0, and because Montana is and because they played in the title game last year, there simply can be no other choice for the number one seed. Clearly, this season's body of work is the most important; and it's tough to get better than 11-0. But coupled with Montana's finish last year, they have to be #1.

Agree, or still confusion?

[leeshajo]

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I'll probably regret this...



Agreed. That's why JMU is not in the playoffs this year.

However, Montana's results this year are: 11-0. I'm not saying they should be seeded number one because they played in the National Championship last year. If I were saying that, I'd vote Richmond the number one seed. I'm saying Montana is the only choice for the number one seed because they were 11-0 THIS YEAR, and because they played in the title game last year.

Think of it this way: If Richmond and Montana both ended up 11-0, who should have been seeded first?

I doubt you'll find many that would argue Montana should be given that scenario. Why? Because Richmond won the title game last year. So even though they'd have identical records last year, the title would carry signifcant weight. However, since Richmond is NOT 11-0, and because Montana is and because they played in the title game last year, there simply can be no other choice for the number one seed. Clearly, this season's body of work is the most important; and it's tough to get better than 11-0. But coupled with Montana's finish last year, they have to be #1.

Agree, or still confusion?

Ya know... I was pretty much with you until the sarcasm at the end... for most of us, it isn't that you are the no. 1 seed it is the fact that we are playing the no.1 seed first round. ... the game is less than 24 hours away, the real battle will be on the field.

I am predicting a three or less point game... last team to hold the ball wins.

Hopefully neither team has any injuries and it is everything I expect the game to be.

that said... GO BIG, GO BLUE, GO JACKS.

[bub94]

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[EverettGriz]

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I knew I'd regret it....

What part of, "The Griz are undefeated this year" isn't clear? What part of "this year combined with last year isn't clear?

I don't mean to be an arse, but I'm going to hazzard a guess you are a little confused. Or at least a newbie to these things called "playoffs".

[bub94]

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I knew I'd regret it....

What part of, "The Griz are undefeated this year" isn't clear? What part of "this year combined with last year isn't clear?

I don't mean to be an arse, but I'm going to hazzard a guess you are a little confused. Or at least a newbie to these things called "playoffs".

I'm sitting at home bashing my head against my desk because for some reason, you can't understand LAST YEAR HAS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with this year and the polls. Not once have I not acknowledged Montana is undefeated this year or denied it. My only statement is what teams did last year should have NOTHING to do with this year's polls.

Please please please for the love of the guy up above close this thread.

[EverettGriz]

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I find it odd that you completely ignored the question I raised below, so I'll ask it again. I assume I know why you ignored it, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, assume you missed it and ask it again:

If Richmond and Montana had both finished 11-0, who should have been seeded number one and why?

this year's polls

And we're not talking polls. We're talking SEEDS! HUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE difference. Pollsters don't know jack. The Committee does, and I assure you they take how a team finished in the playoffs last year into consideration. Like it; Don't like it; whatever. But you should at least see it for the reality it is. And for good reason, I might add.

[KUlawJack]

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I'm sitting at home bashing my head against my desk because for some reason, you can't understand LAST YEAR HAS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with this year and the polls. Not once have I not acknowledged Montana is undefeated this year or denied it. My only statement is what teams did last year should have NOTHING to do with this year's polls.

Please please please for the love of the guy up above close this thread.

This. This is the correct answer. Last year is not this year. That's all there is to it. What happened last year doesn't impact what happens in these playoffs.

[EverettGriz]

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Answer the question:

Montana is 11-0; Richmond is 11-0. Who is seeded #1 and why?

[JackJD]

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Uhhh....can I just say Montana so that late Saturday afternoon I can say the Jackrabbitsa beat the #1 seed?

[NorCalJack]

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Answer the question:

Montana is 11-0; Richmond is 11-0. Who is seeded #1 and why?

Richmond

Because they played the tougher schedule and play in a tougher conference.

That answer has nothing to do with how they did last year!!!

[bub94]

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That answer has nothing to do with how they did last year!!!

We have a winner. It's what they do only this year that should affect the polls and the seeding in playoffs. Thank you NorCalJack and KUlawJack. Goodwill (where something is given value just because of people knowing the name) has no place in football playoffs and polls. People dwelling on the past are the reason ND gets votes. Why give someone votes for what they did in the past. Reward teams for what they are currently doing.