McNeese Game Thread

[sfjacksfan99]

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Just getting home and recovered from my Hobo Daze and and still wildly frustrated over the outcome of the game yesterday as I continue to talk with others about it. I think Jimmy is the most high intense player on the whole team and the fluke deal on the 4th down was just that, fluke. The dropped int in the 3rd OT is the bad one.

I don't think Jimmy is the goat of the game by any means. I would go 55/45 between the coaching staff and Reifenrath. I realize they only needed 3 pts after the int with the horsecollar to tie the game, but you've just run the ball on three straight plays for 9 1/2 yards and Kyle hadn't been tackled for a loss all day. Run the freekin ball for a first down and score 7, grow a pair. The call on the 2 pt conversion was just unexcusable. I seem to remember the Jacks running that play last year with the same result. The play call on the unconverted 4th down in the 3rd quarter at 4th and 2 was also a pathetic call. Four drives into the opponent territory in the 2nd half and 3 points is ridiculous.

Let Kyle Harris kick. Reifenrath makes me nervous just kicking extra points. The missed FG in the first half and the one in the second half would have been made 90% of the time from pretty much all of the Jacks kickers in the last 15 years, Vinny, Gordon and Parker. What happened to our recruiting of very good kickers?

I can try to find some satisfaction in this loss, but I'm not finding it yet.

[JackFan96]

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Give their QB the game ball. So many times he was sacked or at least stopped and gets 8yrd+ 1st downs, not to mention great passing under pressure.

No kidding. It was just inevitable that he was going to keep it on their two-point conversion. It might have been known...but we couldn't stop it. Very good play call. Very smart...even if a bit obvious. When you've got a horse, ride it. (My thoughts on our conversion attempt are known and unchanged.)

[Nidaros]

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Just getting home and recovered from my Hobo Daze and and still wildly frustrated over the outcome of the game yesterday as I continue to talk with others about it. I think Jimmy is the most high intense player on the whole team and the fluke deal on the 4th down was just that, fluke. The dropped int in the 3rd OT is the bad one.

I don't think Jimmy is the goat of the game by any means. I would go 55/45 between the coaching staff and Reifenrath. I realize they only needed 3 pts after the int with the horsecollar to tie the game, but you've just run the ball on three straight plays for 9 1/2 yards and Kyle hadn't been tackled for a loss all day. Run the freekin ball for a first down and score 7, grow a pair. The call on the 2 pt conversion was just unexcusable. I seem to remember the Jacks running that play last year with the same result. The play call on the unconverted 4th down in the 3rd quarter at 4th and 2 was also a pathetic call. Four drives into the opponent territory in the 2nd half and 3 points is ridiculous.

Let Kyle Harris kick. Reifenrath makes me nervous just kicking extra points. The missed FG in the first half and the one in the second half would have been made 90% of the time from pretty much all of the Jacks kickers in the last 15 years, Vinny, Gordon and Parker. What happened to our recruiting of very good kickers?

I can try to find some satisfaction in this loss, but I'm not finding it yet.

I had the opportunity to meet Jimmy R, a few weeks back. He is indeed a very nice person and very humble, nothing cocky about him at all. Yes I agree he must feel very bad about one choice he made, but he has to feel excellent about the other choices and action that he was part of. I think Steve Emming said it best when he said that Jimmy Rogers had done so many other things that got SDSU to the overtime so its hard to hang the loss on him. Jimmy is not the goat by any means.

I keep thinking we are very conservative on 4th down when we are deep in the red zone. The game plan seems to always call for a FG. I agree our kicker so far is not on the level of some of our predecessors. I do recall Viniteri missing a big ones during his career. I dont know Kyle Harris, but I think with Minnett and with better blocking from the fat guys, we probably would be smarter going for a run play on fourth down when we are deep. If the run fails, the opponent has to start deep. In fact maybe a yard deeper than when a failed FG attempt occurrs.

[BitsTD]

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On a complete side note I got to meet Cory Koenig yesterday. I introduced myself to him. He seemed like a nice guy until I told him that I used to play for the Jackrabbits and replied "Oh really? Back in the day huh?" Is 2000 already considered back in the day?

How depressing.

[launcher46]

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Just getting home and recovered from my Hobo Daze and and still wildly frustrated over the outcome of the game yesterday as I continue to talk with others about it. I think Jimmy is the most high intense player on the whole team and the fluke deal on the 4th down was just that, fluke. The dropped int in the 3rd OT is the bad one.

I don't think Jimmy is the goat of the game by any means. I would go 55/45 between the coaching staff and Reifenrath. I realize they only needed 3 pts after the int with the horsecollar to tie the game, but you've just run the ball on three straight plays for 9 1/2 yards and Kyle hadn't been tackled for a loss all day. Run the freekin ball for a first down and score 7, grow a pair. The call on the 2 pt conversion was just unexcusable. I seem to remember the Jacks running that play last year with the same result. The play call on the unconverted 4th down in the 3rd quarter at 4th and 2 was also a pathetic call. Four drives into the opponent territory in the 2nd half and 3 points is ridiculous.

Let Kyle Harris kick. Reifenrath makes me nervous just kicking extra points. The missed FG in the first half and the one in the second half would have been made 90% of the time from pretty much all of the Jacks kickers in the last 15 years, Vinny, Gordon and Parker. What happened to our recruiting of very good kickers?

I can try to find some satisfaction in this loss, but I'm not finding it yet.

I agree. I didn't like that call and was convinced that a field goal wasn't going to win the game for us in that situation. Even if we go for it and turn it over we still leave them the ball on the 10 yard line going into the wind with a chance to get the ball back in good field position to try again. I know that is one call the coaches were second guessing themselves on last night after the game.

[EQguy]

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I think the decision at that point matches the decision behind the 4th down call earlier and the 2 point conversion. I just don't think the coaches had a ton of confidence in the O-line.

[CatchEmAll]

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On a complete side note I got to meet Cory Koenig yesterday. I introduced myself to him. He seemed like a nice guy until I told him that I used to play for the Jackrabbits and replied "Oh really? Back in the day huh?" Is 2000 already considered back in the day?

How depressing.

Ha! That means you're old...oh wait

Try this on for depressing...I'm coaching freshman football...some of my players weren't born when I finished my playing career

[EQguy]

Re: McNeese takes 46-44 triple overtime win over S.D.S.

jackrabbits have a newspaper url for me? thanks.

http://www.americanpress.com/index.p...3191&Itemid=96

I didn't notice anyone posting this yet or not. This is TV's write up from the Argus.

Fluke play dooms Jacks in 3 OT loss to McNeese State

[crossfire07]

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thanx

[Jacks-02]

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I had the opportunity to meet Jimmy R, a few weeks back. He is indeed a very nice person and very humble, nothing cocky about him at all. Yes I agree he must feel very bad about one choice he made, but he has to feel excellent about the other choices and action that he was part of. I think Steve Emming said it best when he said that Jimmy Rogers had done so many other things that got SDSU to the overtime so its hard to hang the loss on him. Jimmy is not the goat by any means.

I keep thinking we are very conservative on 4th down when we are deep in the red zone. The game plan seems to always call for a FG. I agree our kicker so far is not on the level of some of our predecessors. I do recall Viniteri missing a big ones during his career. I dont know Kyle Harris, but I think with Minnett and with better blocking from the fat guys, we probably would be smarter going for a run play on fourth down when we are deep. If the run fails, the opponent has to start deep. In fact maybe a yard deeper than when a failed FG attempt occurrs.

Our first score of the game was a direct result of Jimmy Rogers being the player he is. He had two huge blocks on the return by taking one guy out at about the 45 and he hustled downfield and took another guy out around the 20.

[bub94]

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You won't hear me complain about Jimmy's play. Jimmy's hard work for the Jacks far exceed what happened yesterday.

[JackJD]

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We all know that football games are not won or lost on one play. The Jackrabbits have proved they rightfully belong in the upper ranks of the FCS and Jimmy Rogers has played and continues to play a huge role in making that happen. He's a warrior on the field and will be All-Conference.

[JimmyJack]

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Jimmy Rogers has played and continues to play a huge role in making that happen. He's a warrior on the field and will be All-Conference.

Jimmy's my favorite Jackrabbit to watch. If you focus on him, he usually ends up in the middle of the play. Jimmy embodies the belief and overachieving nature of the entire team and coaching staff. The guy's not big enough to play linebacker. He's not fast enough to play FCS. Yet he just makes play after play because of his unmatched intensity and desire. I might add that he brings the same kind of intensity and focus into the classroom.

Replay that 4th down play 100 times and 99 times it's an incomplete pass. Whitehead just made an astonishing play. I just watched the video in slow motion and I don't think Whitehead could even see the ball. He was sliding on the ground with his back to the play. The ball just bounced up and touched one of his hands and he had the instincts to pull it in. He's a great player.

[Nidaros]

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Jimmy's my favorite Jackrabbit to watch. If you focus on him, he usually ends up in the middle of the play. Jimmy embodies the belief and overachieving nature of the entire team and coaching staff. The guy's not big enough to play linebacker. He's not fast enough to play FCS. Yet he just makes play after play because of his unmatched intensity and desire. I might add that he brings the same kind of intensity and focus into the classroom.

Replay that 4th down play 100 times and 99 times it's an incomplete pass. Whitehead just made an astonishing play. I just watched the video in slow motion and I don't think Whitehead could even see the ball. He was sliding on the ground with his back to the play. The ball just bounced up and touched one of his hands and he had the instincts to pull it in. He's a great player.

Jimmy Jack:
Having watched the video in slow motion, is there any evidence that Whitehead made a trap catch? That is the ball touched the ground, which would have made the catch incomplete. I thought I saw the ball hit the ground, but maybe its all wishful thinking. Even if it was a trap catch, it would not change anything, so maybe best to move on.

[JimmyJack]

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Jimmy Jack:
Having watched the video in slow motion, is there any evidence that Whitehead made a trap catch? That is the ball touched the ground, which would have made the catch incomplete. I thought I saw the ball hit the ground, but maybe its all wishful thinking. Even if it was a trap catch, it would not change anything, so maybe best to move on.

Good question. The only video I have is from the camera on the grandstand, so it's impossible to see for sure whether it was a catch. What I can see, though, is an official in perfect position, about 8 yards away from Whitehead in the endzone. The official is looking right at Whitehead and would have been in perfect position to see if the ball was trapped. I'd say it was a catch.