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[bigticket1]

Forget high profile recruits, are we going to have any left at all? of our 19 scholarship recruits JI only has 4 of them confirmed as coming back. Its pretty clear by looking at their Twitter profiles that there are a number of them on their way out. At this point I am just hoping to keep the local kids and anything else is gravy.

And not only is the former coaching staff poaching most of this recruiting class, they also pissed a year of our recruiting budget down a rathole to do it. SDSU paid to have coaches travel to high schools across the country to establish relationships with them. And SDSU paid to bring all of these recruits and their families to Brookings for official visits. Not sure what our recruiting budget is, but the vast majority of 2024's was wasted.

[peavy]

I think that's the savage part about the whole coaching staff departing. There's no link left for any of these kids that have committed here and that leave Coach Jackson scrambling to put together some kind of a recruiting class. JI lists Damarius Russell 3* athlete from Waseca MN as out. He's following and liking the WSU activity. No doubt he'll end up there, too.

That was a hell of a recruiting class. I think Jimmy taking the top end talent from that class shows two things: 1: SDSU can be on par with G6 schools as a destination for talented kids with the big difference being that SDSU has and will have the regular opportunity to play in meaningful games; and 2. Jimmy has a real connection with players. I think he'll be successful in Pullman if the admin and fanbase there gives him the resources that are on par with their new conference peers.

Russell just decommitted

[peavy]

'25 QB Owen Eshelman flipped to WSU. Nice message from him for what it's worth

[Jacks]

This is getting a little ridiculous. I get a number of players going with the staff due to relationships built, but it seems as if Rogers and Co are trying to completely gut SDSU. There is something personal to this. Don't try to tell me that this "is how it works with college athletics these days" because this is a completely different situation, this is a coach leaving a program that gave him a chance out of HS and rolled out the red carpet for him as a coach. Gutting a program that you have no ties to is one thing and "is how it works with college athletics these days", but the fact Jimmy is gutting the very place that truly gave him a chance is a little disgusting.

[jbjack]

This is getting a little ridiculous. I get a number of players going with the staff due to relationships built, but it seems as if Rogers and Co are trying to completely gut SDSU. There is something personal to this. Don't try to tell me that this "is how it works with college athletics these days" because this is a completely different situation, this is a coach leaving a program that gave him a chance out of HS and rolled out the red carpet for him as a coach. Gutting a program that you have no ties to is one thing and "is how it works with college athletics these days", but the fact Jimmy is gutting the very place that truly gave him a chance is a little disgusting.

I pointed out before that the savagery of the entirety of the coaching staff leaving was that a tremendous recruiting class had no personal connection left to the school. How often is it that coach is able to take his whole staff with him? I don't recall it happening to NDSU. I think in each case, some of the staff stayed behind, and in those days, transfer rules weren't so liberal. When Entz left, he alone hit the road and most of his staff was still in Fargo, working for NDSU, even though they perhaps weren't retained by Poliseck (Roehl, for a big example). Everyone is gone. Hard to blame a kid in that circumstance. I'm thankful for the kids that are honoring their commitment. I had hoped that the new coach could retain a few more of the higher profile recruits but that likelihood seems to be shrinking by the day and hour.

The silver lining of so many following the staff to Pullman: They aren't going to North Fargo. A lot of these were recruiting battle wins against the Bison and no doubt the Bison would find room for a lot of these guys. So far, we haven't seen any commitments flip to our MVFC competitors, although its probable one or two will end up at NDSU. But each of these recruits that ends up in Pullman is a recruit that doesn't end up in Fargo.

[bigticket1]

This is getting a little ridiculous. I get a number of players going with the staff due to relationships built, but it seems as if Rogers and Co are trying to completely gut SDSU. There is something personal to this. Don't try to tell me that this "is how it works with college athletics these days" because this is a completely different situation, this is a coach leaving a program that gave him a chance out of HS and rolled out the red carpet for him as a coach. Gutting a program that you have no ties to is one thing and "is how it works with college athletics these days", but the fact Jimmy is gutting the very place that truly gave him a chance is a little disgusting.

Word is that their next objective is to go after the proposed Target that's going to be built in Brookings.

[73alum]

Man, do I ever appreciate all of you and your in depth insights and time and effort put in. I don't have all that specific info. but I just can't help but look at some of these or perhaps the great majority of these kids, and some are 18-19-20 years old! How many did basically a knee jerk reaction and flipped to WSU!!!??? They are pissed to some degree and did the easiest thing of following Rogers. Did any of these "kids" meet with Jackson to get a perspective so they can more totally analyze their situation?? Maybe none did. As a Dad, I would have for sure had my son, if he was a Jack's recruit, meet with Jackson to help analyze my choices, otherwise you have a knee jerk reaction!!!!

I would think the parents of these athletes would push to at least have a meeting with Jackson. These kids were smart in HS...their parents gave them good guidance I would surely presume....what happened??? Parents spend all your life helping you, a college coach just a small amount of time!

I'm pushing 80 years of age. I've had a lot of good things happen in my employment future by analyzing and some not very good....as those not good were more knee jerk reactions!!!

I've been accused of being too analytical at times but I see people spending more time deciding their next possible vehicle purchase then planning their next employment opportunity!!! That's not good decision making!!

Maybe this will settle down in a few years, and athletes like Tucker Kraft will help new players make a concerted decision after thoroughly analyzing their options??? Doesn't appear to me that these younger 'kids' are doing this. Maybe I'm wrong but quick decisions usually are trouble.

[Jackrabbit2012]

Owen Ostroski to UNI. Better than NDSU! Looks like one of his relatives is the Assistant D-Line coach.

[73alum]

I pointed out before that the savagery of the entirety of the coaching staff leaving was that a tremendous recruiting class had no personal connection left to the school. How often is it that coach is able to take his whole staff with him? I don't recall it happening to NDSU. I think in each case, some of the staff stayed behind, and in those days, transfer rules weren't so liberal. When Entz left, he alone hit the road and most of his staff was still in Fargo, working for NDSU, even though they perhaps weren't retained by Poliseck (Roehl, for a big example). Everyone is gone. Hard to blame a kid in that circumstance. I'm thankful for the kids that are honoring their commitment. I had hoped that the new coach could retain a few more of the higher profile recruits but that likelihood seems to be shrinking by the day and hour.

The silver lining of so many following the staff to Pullman: They aren't going to North Fargo. A lot of these were recruiting battle wins against the Bison and no doubt the Bison would find room for a lot of these guys. So far, we haven't seen any commitments flip to our MVFC competitors, although its probable one or two will end up at NDSU. But each of these recruits that ends up in Pullman is a recruit that doesn't end up in Fargo.

That is one big item that I was wondering about. When Entz left, but not the whole staff, surely that is the main reason the majority of the athletes stayed??? Otherwise, I'm completely baffled why so many athletes followed Rogers to WSU. I kind of chastised some of these athletes making a knee jerk reaction in another forum notation...but still as I mentioned in that post...have a meeting with Jackson so you are more clear in your head!!!!

[HoboJack]

Entz left as a HC to go be a LB coach. Don’t think that taking multiple staff members with him was an option at USC. Kleiman had extensive experience before he got to NDSU, and had connections for staff outside of the NDSU staff. Entz was the on-staff guy ready to replace him.

Jimmy’s entire coaching career (minus 1 year as GA at FAU) was at SDSU. It makes sense that he would hire the ones he knows at his new job, since WSU’s coaching staff was also all gone. I can’t say that I blame him, but the situation still sucks. Unfortunately, I don’t think anyone on last years staff was ready to be seriously considered for HC at SDSU. If there had been, maybe this all plays out differently.


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[peavy]

It has to be in the portal era. I think James Madison might be a good example with Cignetti and Indiana or look into the Sac State coach leaving for Stanford or the UIW coach leaving for Texas State 2 years ago. UIW lost a whole bunch of people but I know the current coach was OC then, so there was some continuity.

Honestly I think someone here posted that WSU lost 26 people. See what Dickert did. Did Dickert take his WSU staff to Wake?

[bigticket1]

It has to be in the portal era. I think James Madison might be a good example with Cignetti and Indiana or look into the Sac State coach leaving for Stanford or the UIW coach leaving for Texas State 2 years ago. UIW lost a whole bunch of people but I know the current coach was OC then, so there was some continuity.

Honestly I think someone here posted that WSU lost 26 people. See what Dickert did. Did Dickert take his WSU staff to Wake?

It was 36. But quite a few went to other FBS programs other than Wake Forest.

[bigticket1]

Man, do I ever appreciate all of you and your in depth insights and time and effort put in. I don't have all that specific info. but I just can't help but look at some of these or perhaps the great majority of these kids, and some are 18-19-20 years old! How many did basically a knee jerk reaction and flipped to WSU!!!??? They are pissed to some degree and did the easiest thing of following Rogers. Did any of these "kids" meet with Jackson to get a perspective so they can more totally analyze their situation?? Maybe none did. As a Dad, I would have for sure had my son, if he was a Jack's recruit, meet with Jackson to help analyze my choices, otherwise you have a knee jerk reaction!!!!

I would think the parents of these athletes would push to at least have a meeting with Jackson. These kids were smart in HS...their parents gave them good guidance I would surely presume....what happened??? Parents spend all your life helping you, a college coach just a small amount of time!

I'm pushing 80 years of age. I've had a lot of good things happen in my employment future by analyzing and some not very good....as those not good were more knee jerk reactions!!!

I've been accused of being too analytical at times but I see people spending more time deciding their next possible vehicle purchase then planning their next employment opportunity!!! That's not good decision making!!

Maybe this will settle down in a few years, and athletes like Tucker Kraft will help new players make a concerted decision after thoroughly analyzing their options??? Doesn't appear to me that these younger 'kids' are doing this. Maybe I'm wrong but quick decisions usually are trouble.

It's going to be interesting to watch the portal at the end of next season to see what happens in Pullman. I'm guessing there was some peer pressure involved now, especially with the recruits, just like there is in the summer when there is a rush of commits when momentum gets rolling. Combine that with pressure coming from the coaches and it's easier to see how this could happen.

[Jackrabbit2012]

It was 36. But quite a few went to other FBS programs other than Wake Forest.

Sam Herder mentioned yesterday that Eck took 6 Idaho players with him to New Mexico. Not sure how many recruits he also took. Currently JI has 15 players and 6 recruits listed to Jimmy. That number will continue to rise.

[FargoBison]

I pointed out before that the savagery of the entirety of the coaching staff leaving was that a tremendous recruiting class had no personal connection left to the school. How often is it that coach is able to take his whole staff with him? I don't recall it happening to NDSU. I think in each case, some of the staff stayed behind, and in those days, transfer rules weren't so liberal. When Entz left, he alone hit the road and most of his staff was still in Fargo, working for NDSU, even though they perhaps weren't retained by Poliseck (Roehl, for a big example). Everyone is gone. Hard to blame a kid in that circumstance. I'm thankful for the kids that are honoring their commitment. I had hoped that the new coach could retain a few more of the higher profile recruits but that likelihood seems to be shrinking by the day and hour.

Bohl tried to do this but Klieman blew it all up, which is why Bohl was angry at the time with him that he took the NDSU job and there was a lot of drama within both staffs. If Bohl had gone to a place with more resources perhaps it would have been different and Klieman goes with him allowing Bohl to raid what was a stocked recruiting class.