Lujan or Christion?

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

I am somewhere between the island and the mainland. 310 yards a game, 9 TD's, 2 INT's is very tough to argue against. I thought TC looked very good against ISU-blue, and a little shaky against YSU. Personally, I believe Lujan is a much better passer. The part that I am torn on is, TC is a heck of an athlete and I really don't know who gives us the better chance to win.

This reminds me of the 49ers QB debacle of a few years ago. For about a 20 game stretch, Alex Smith had incredible stats like Lujan's but he got hurt, and in came this duel threat guy named Colin Kaepernick that nobody could stop for a few years. Now I am not comparing Lujan to Alex Smith and I'm not comparing TC to Kaep. Just a similar situation.

The bold is what matters. I believe the coaches will go with whatever option or combination they feel gives us the best chance to win. The fact that they pulled TC's redshirt in the first place backs up their philosophy of 1-0 and win now.

[westernjack]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

I am somewhere between the island and the mainland. 310 yards a game, 9 TD's, 2 INT's is very tough to argue against. I thought TC looked very good against ISU-blue, and a little shaky against YSU. Personally, I believe Lujan is a much better passer. The part that I am torn on is, TC is a heck of an athlete and I really don't know who gives us the better chance to win.

This reminds me of the 49ers QB debacle of a few years ago. For about a 20 game stretch, Alex Smith had incredible stats like Lujan's but he got hurt, and in came this duel threat guy named Colin Kaepernick that nobody could stop for a few years. Now I am not comparing Lujan to Alex Smith and I'm not comparing TC to Kaep. Just a similar situation.

No Daunte Culpepper comment Montana?

[CappinHard]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

For anyone questioning TC's passing or ability to run the offense as a freshman, watch from 10:57 to 12:14. He shows his arm strength, then checks out of a run play and into a pass play and makes a nice read for the TD. Just listen to the way Stig talks about him.

[Jackedforlife]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

For anyone questioning TC's passing or ability to run the offense as a freshman, watch from 10:57 to 12:14. He shows his arm strength, then checks out of a run play and into a pass play and makes a nice read for the TD. Just listen to the way Stig talks about him.

Thats the major upside of TC in the passing game. He can make all the throws, don't kid yourselves that matters. As he progresses in the offense the passes will come out quicker and in tighter windows. That's when the D will play off and their backs to him and the draws will be there, for him and the RB's.

I am in no way wanting Lujan to fail though, I hope when he comes back he continues his success. I just think at some point the passing product TC puts out will outshine Zach.

[da_coach]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

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This thread is getting awfully boring.

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[ringthebells]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

Taryn is a cooler first name than Zach. Taryn starts.

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

Taryn is a cooler first name than Zach. Taryn starts.

Solid argument.

[JimmyJack]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

Taryn is a cooler first name than Zach. Taryn starts.

We've had pretty good luck with guys named Zach, though.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

For anyone questioning TC's passing or ability to run the offense as a freshman, watch from 10:57 to 12:14. He shows his arm strength, then checks out of a run play and into a pass play and makes a nice read for the TD. Just listen to the way Stig talks about him.

I noticed that too.

Part of me thinks that the checked TD play would have been very routine for Lujan (maybe even Douglas), but because it was done by TC Stig was impressed. And it is impressive for a freshman to make that play. If Lujan makes that play, the fact that it was a check down probably doesn't even get mentioned. Another thing I found interesting was the fact that TC had a throw that he didn't step into during the recap as well. That mistake could lead to an interception under different circumstances.

These are all likely things the coaching staff looks at when they grade players' performances. And according to those grades Lujan and TC are neck and neck. Win now, 1-0 this week.

Anyway, not really disagreeing with what you said, I think TC is and will be fantastic.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

For anyone questioning TC's passing or ability to run the offense as a freshman, watch from 10:57 to 12:14. He shows his arm strength, then checks out of a run play and into a pass play and makes a nice read for the TD. Just listen to the way Stig talks about him.

Again, not disagreeing, but TC also did not have the presence of mind to pass with 12 seconds left in the half against ISUb.

TC will be great and is the future of the program, but there are unquestionable drawbacks to playing a freshman at QB. Do the benefits outweigh those drawbacks? That's for the coaches to decide.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

Again, not disagreeing, but TC also did not have the presence of mind to pass with 12 seconds left in the half against ISUb.

TC will be great and is the future of the program, but there are unquestionable drawbacks to playing a freshman at QB. Do the benefits outweigh those drawbacks? That's for the coaches to decide.

And for us to discuss!

[CappinHard]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

Do the benefits outweigh those drawbacks?

Yes.

[Nidaros]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

Yes.

I just knew one day would not pass with out some dialogue on this thread. Its got to the point where if we got a healty QB, that is good enough for me. I don't care if its the holder No 11, who gets the nod.

[WestSideRabbit]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

. I don't care if its the holder No 11, who gets the nod.

That may be taking it a bit too far! haha But I do here that Tyler is a phenomenal guy. Zimmer had a good write up about him at the start of the year.

[CappinHard]

Re: Lujan or Christion?

I just knew one day would not pass with out some dialogue on this thread. Its got to the point where if we got a healty QB, that is good enough for me. I don't care if its the holder No 11, who gets the nod.

I should find Goon tomorrow during tailgating and we will indian leg wrestle to determine it. If I win, TC starts, if Goon wins, Lujan starts. We should do it early enough so the coaches have time to set the offensive plan accordingly. Let the wagering begin. (insider info: I have thighs like tree trunks)