2011 Depth Chart

[SpeedRabbit]

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On what do you base your thesis?

The winter will not improve his pocket awareness, escape ability, lack of foot speed, and fear of taking a hit. He was one of the most protected QB's in the nation last year, yet he threw away too many int's. Many were for fear of being hit.

Will the off season improve his dual threat running ability?

Will losing veteran running backs and having a new RB in the backfield pass blocking improve him this year?

Will the off season improve his ability to attack the middle of the field?

Hopefully the off season improves his staring down and locking on to one receiver.

I could go on but we will shortly see.

I'd like to see what basis the TOB defenders base their he will improve theory. I don't think it was a lack of experience that caused the deficiencies.

His line will be even better than last yr- I think our system will change some to help out our immobility at QB, he will have another spring to work out some of the things that hampered him last year, our Wr's will be better this year and experience never hurts. Its time for TOB to have a break out year or at least that is my hope!!

[shot_5533]

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His line will be even better than last yr- I think our system will change some to help out our immobility at QB, he will have another spring to work out some of the things that hampered him last year, our Wr's will be better this year and experience never hurts. Its time for TOB to have a break out year or at least that is my hope!!

I couldn't agree with you more in regards to receivers. Even Brett Favre looked bad with mediocre receivers. Look how much better he played with Sydney Rice. How are the receivers better this year? Are the Red shirts exceptional? I know the kid from Andover is good, but isn't he a possession type guy? We need a burner like JaRon Harris. Who is that guy? Who do you think will be the #1 and #2 receivers?

How do you account for the graduation of your two outstanding tight ends? That will be tough for the Offense to make up.

Asking the line to be even better is a lot to expect but it is the Jackrabbit way. Losing an All American Center is going to hurt more than you realize; however, the O -line should be very good.

I'm not from MO so TOB will have to show me. I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. It seemed like TOB regressed from the playoff team to last years team.

I hope I am wrong. Very much so.

[goon]

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I couldn't agree with you more in regards to receivers. Even Brett Favre looked bad with mediocre receivers. Look how much better he played with Sydney Rice. How are the receivers better this year? Are the Red shirts exceptional? I know the kid from Andover is good, but isn't he a possession type guy? We need a burner like JaRon Harris. Who is that guy? Who do you think will be the #1 and #2 receivers?

How do you account for the graduation of your two outstanding tight ends? That will be tough for the Offense to make up.

Asking the line to be even better is a lot to expect but it is the Jackrabbit way. Losing an All American Center is going to hurt more than you realize; however, the O -line should be very good.

I'm not from MO so TOB will have to show me. I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. It seemed like TOB regressed from the playoff team to last years team.

I hope I am wrong. Very much so.

From his form in his freshman year to his soph, lets just hope it was his soph slump.

[m11jacks]

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Just a few random thoughts....

I never played qb in college, but once was the emergency qb and didn't even know it. I don't know what it is like for a college qb, but as a db, I know every year the game seemed to slow down for me (match made in heaven as I slowed down too). Part of it was being familiar and comfortable with the system, the other part was maturity. You learn how to study film better, pick up on tendecies previously overlooked, and become wiser. You also become more familar with the players around you (trust factor) which I think would be important with qb's & wr's. Can things be improved in the offseason? Sure can. Coaches are always evaluating and trying to help players improve. Spring ball is the time for coaches to get a lot of action for the younger guys to see how they are progressing while working with the veterans on the "little things". Remember some of our recent qb's who were highly praised did not hit their strides until their junior year or a couple of games into it.

With that said, does it equate to success? I don't know, but the opportunity to improve is there.

[shot_5533]

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Did Adam Weber ever improve with the Gophers? He had plenty of off seasons and regressed every year, but then again, Stig is not Brewster.

Stig is a class act and all about winning. He will make the best choice.

How many total rushing yards did TOB have last year? The Jacks couldn't even run a QB sneak behind an All American center. TOB will always be a pocket passer. Does that equate to winning in DI football? Look at the SD QB to the south last year. His feet won games.

[RabbitObsessed]

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Did Adam Weber ever improve with the Gophers? He had plenty of off seasons and regressed every year, but then again, Stig is not Brewster.

Stig is a class act and all about winning. He will make the best choice.

How many total rushing yards did TOB have last year? The Jacks couldn't even run a QB sneak behind an All American center. TOB will always be a pocket passer. Does that equate to winning in DI football? Look at the SD QB to the south last year. His feet won games.

I don't think the lack of success of the QB sneaks had anything to do with TOB's lack of mobility. A QB sneak is 90% on the line.

[SpeedRabbit]

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Did Adam Weber ever improve with the Gophers? He had plenty of off seasons and regressed every year, but then again, Stig is not Brewster.

Stig is a class act and all about winning. He will make the best choice.

How many total rushing yards did TOB have last year? The Jacks couldn't even run a QB sneak behind an All American center. TOB will always be a pocket passer. Does that equate to winning in DI football? Look at the SD QB to the south last year. His feet won games.

Maybe SDSU needs to start recruiting thoose kind of QB's then. Sumner is in the same mild and so was Crawford. Don't know about the new freshman coming in.

[da_coach]

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I do think some of TOB's struggles last years were WR related. Not that there isn't talent there, but just the inexperience of the group.

WR is a position that generally takes a while to learn, unless you are an out of this world athlete. You have a number of routes and reads to make.

I do think Rollin, Hubert, and Tiefenthaler with another year of experience will lead to an improved passing game. But, I'm a believer.

[SpeedRabbit]

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I do think some of TOB's struggles last years were WR related. Not that there isn't talent there, but just the inexperience of the group.

WR is a position that generally takes a while to learn, unless you are an out of this world athlete. You have a number of routes and reads to make.

I do think Rollin, Hubert, and Tiefenthaler with another year of experience will lead to an improved passing game. But, I'm a believer.

We also have the Schneider kid who is a tall WR and Dom. Wright who is has very good speed. Both are Redshirt freshman this fall. Gant a Sr. might also help us this fall. Will be interesting to see how Moss fits in. The Schmidt kid from brookings is also back after an injury.

[mitchell]

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I do think some of TOB's struggles last years were WR related. Not that there isn't talent there, but just the inexperience of the group.

WR is a position that generally takes a while to learn, unless you are an out of this world athlete. You have a number of routes and reads to make.

I do think Rollin, Hubert, and Tiefenthaler with another year of experience will lead to an improved passing game. But, I'm a believer.

I agree. Last year our #1 WR was a converted RB, and the other WR's were sophomores and freshman with little or no experience.

Not to make excuses for TOB because he did make too many bad decisions.

[JACKGUYII]

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Having a quarterback who avoids any kind of contact at all costs is not a good thing. Andy Kardoes made a lot of bad decisions too, but was not afraid to put his head down and run for a first down when the situation called for it and initiate some contact.

[ringthebells]

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I do think some of TOB's struggles last years were WR related. Not that there isn't talent there, but just the inexperience of the group.

WR is a position that generally takes a while to learn, unless you are an out of this world athlete. You have a number of routes and reads to make.

I do think Rollin, Hubert, and Tiefenthaler with another year of experience will lead to an improved passing game. But, I'm a believer.

I'm a believer too. I believe Sumner is the second coming of Mike Busch. I hope the best for Thomas O'B, but two years of bad throws and excuses is enough. Bring on the new blood.

[Jacks#1Fan]

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If you're right, you'll see the quarterback you like most on the field. The issue will be decided on the field, and all speculation aside, and there is always plenty of that, I'll trust the coaches to put our best quarterback behind the center when we open in the fall. Have at it, QBs.

[shot_5533]

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I don't think the lack of success of the QB sneaks had anything to do with TOB's lack of mobility. A QB sneak is 90% on the line.

Are you kidding me?

A QB sneak is on the center and the QB. The QB comes behind the center, sees an opening, taps his butt,and goes.

Did you notice how wide NDSU had their D tackles during the game? They were split out wide on the O tackles. NDSU knew we wouldn't QB sneak and take the easy five yards. Go back and look, I was there watching it.

We didn't even attempt one all year long and you put it on the O -line and All American center. Come on.

[RabbitObsessed]

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We didn't even attempt one all year long and you put it on the O -line and All American center. Come on.

Yep. We also failed to convert a ton of 3rd and shorts and 4th and shorts dive plays and I'd say Minett is a pretty decent runner. Probably TOB's fault.