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  • Re: New Stadium

    Originally posted by JackJD View Post
    #1: That's a better definition than my guess: P (of) S*#@ Legroom. I was worried.

    TK: when you wrote PSL seating--what did that mean? Your comment made it sound like it was an alternative to the point system for purchasing season tickets.

    There will be a point system -- likely the same type of system we now have which gets tweaked once in a while. So, for those who want to lock in the ability to get good seating in a new stadium, think about buying season tickets and increasing donations now. You need motivation? Talk to someone from a Big 10 school about what it takes to purchase good season tickets -- I have a brother in law who has great tickets on about the 40-45 yard line, about 10 or 11 rows up, at TCFed Bank Stadium for Gopher games. You may be shocked to find out what that costs. The cost of game-day parking alone would shock most 'Rabbit fans. And the fact is, for the entertainment value, a competitive MVFC game is every bit as entertaining as a competitive Big 10 game. Our tickets are dirt cheap and to support a new stadium and meet demand, they will and should go up in price.
    AMEN and pass the collection plate to the aisle.

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    • Re: New Stadium

      PSL = Personal Seat Licence

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_seat_license

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      • Re: New Stadium

        Originally posted by LakeJack View Post
        Thanks Lake Jack.

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        • Re: New Stadium

          Originally posted by LakeJack View Post
          Yeah, I've seen them where they can put your name on the seat as well. Many times businesses will do this and get 10-12 seats and then put their name on them. A way of advertising.

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          • Re: New Stadium

            I need to get to this board more often.

            The main point of my post was to get a dicussion going on the merits of the current points system versus a new PSL type system, or a combination of both. My gut is telling me that we are going to see a combo in the new stadium.

            What do I mean by that?

            Well, we certainly can't abandon the existing priority points system as it would punish long-time donors. However, a drive for the new stadium is all about funding. If "prime" seats become available, they could be offered for a one-time PSL "lease", or at a discounted lease price to those longstanding donors. I would envision seating between the 40's or 45's on the home-side to be this PSL type seating. Those long-standing donors who don't wish to contribute "extra" would be offered seats outside of that zone. This would give the opportunity for new or recent season ticket holders to jump to the front of the line, at a substantial donation to SDSU to help with the stadium, of-course. We also have the luxury box seating to talk about, but I that's another discussion for another day.

            In short, I hope our donors aren't torked off when they find out they aren't going to have their same prime seats in the new stadium unless they cough up some more cash.

            This is all my opinion and prediction, of course. Not based off of any inside knowledge.

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            • Re: New Stadium

              Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
              I need to get to this board more often.

              The main point of my post was to get a dicussion going on the merits of the current points system versus a new PSL type system, or a combination of both. My gut is telling me that we are going to see a combo in the new stadium.
              Don't we already have a some kind of combo in place? I get placed in a certain section based on my priority points but I also have to donate a certain amount of money to the Jackrabbit Club each year to be placed in that section.

              Or am I not thinking a long the same lines as you are. Or just tweaking this sytem that is already in place?

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                Originally posted by UWMandSDSU View Post
                Don't we already have a some kind of combo in place? I get placed in a certain section based on my priority points but I also have to donate a certain amount of money to the Jackrabbit Club each year to be placed in that section.

                Or am I not thinking a long the same lines as you are. Or just tweaking this sytem that is already in place?
                If you are referring to the $50/$100 minimum donation based on what section you are in, I mean something different in terms of the combo. The $50 donation would still be required for the other sections, but a PSL would be a one-time donation of say $2,000-$5,000 to the stadium fund and then an additional $100-$200 per year, per seat for the new "prime" seating section.

                This would be outside of the $10,000 annual payment for luxury suites.

                Just throwin' it out there....

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                • Re: New Stadium

                  Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
                  If you are referring to the $50/$100 minimum donation based on what section you are in, I mean something different in terms of the combo. The $50 donation would still be required for the other sections, but a PSL would be a one-time donation of say $2,000-$5,000 to the stadium fund and then an additional $100-$200 per year, per seat for the new "prime" seating section.

                  This would be outside of the $10,000 annual payment for luxury suites.

                  Just throwin' it out there....
                  Gotcha!

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                  • Re: New Stadium

                    I would be shocked if any kind of PSL is utilized in the new stadium.

                    I am not aware of any college in America that uses PSL, and the reasons are tax related.

                    A donation is tax deductible as charitable giving. A PSL is not. Donors and Businesses alike would prefer a donation based system, and the athletic department would make a lot more money too.
                    “I used to be with it. But then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems scary and wierd. It’ll happen to you.” — Abe Simpson

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                      Also wanted to add, a $10,000 annual donation is required to go in the Dykhouse for football games right now. That's a lot of big spenders. If a PSL were really the way to go, SDSU would already charge a fee instead of ask for donations.
                      “I used to be with it. But then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems scary and wierd. It’ll happen to you.” — Abe Simpson

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                      • Re: New Stadium

                        Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan View Post
                        Also wanted to add, a $10,000 annual donation is required to go in the Dykhouse for football games right now. That's a lot of big spenders. If a PSL were really the way to go, SDSU would already charge a fee instead of ask for donations.
                        OK, so replace "PSL" with "Donation". So with that in mind, I'm speaking of an additional, higher-level "donation" required for prime seating in the new stadium.

                        I am assuming that the Dykhouse donation is more at the corporate level as it typically hosts groups of folks. It does not appear to be a per-person cost, so it can be a bit misleading.

                        With that in mind, do you still think $100 per year is getting you on the 50?

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                          Any individual or cooperation who gives $10000+ annually has access to Dykhouse center on gamedays. Doesn't matter who you are.

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                            Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
                            OK, so replace "PSL" with "Donation". So with that in mind, I'm speaking of an additional, higher-level "donation" required for prime seating in the new stadium.

                            I am assuming that the Dykhouse donation is more at the corporate level as it typically hosts groups of folks. It does not appear to be a per-person cost, so it can be a bit misleading.

                            With that in mind, do you still think $100 per year is getting you on the 50?
                            If we had the winning tradition that the UNL has, then I can see your plan working, but at SDSU with the last NCC champ in 1963 and a few winning seasons since going D1, its not enough. I have no clues on Dykhouse, but I suspect its more than likely corporate bodies who have taken part in it so far. Possibly with a new staduim, new standards and requirements will be put in place. If you filled in the survey, its looks like in the future, they will be going for larger donations.

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                              I thought PSL just meant that those center and front seats are basically sold, they get to put their name on the back of the chair but have to pay a little bit more for them. I don't think its a huge money making deal, but its kinda like marking your spot if you are an individual or showing off your company if you let people sit in those seats. If Cargil had 25 seats at Coughlin and they gave them out to employees and big customers does anyone know that they did that? No, but if they have their name on the back they get to show off.

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                              • Re: New Stadium

                                Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
                                OK, so replace "PSL" with "Donation". So with that in mind, I'm speaking of an additional, higher-level "donation" required for prime seating in the new stadium.

                                I am assuming that the Dykhouse donation is more at the corporate level as it typically hosts groups of folks. It does not appear to be a per-person cost, so it can be a bit misleading.

                                With that in mind, do you still think $100 per year is getting you on the 50?
                                I don't think I ever said it wouldn't cost more to attend in a new stadium. I just said a PSL won't be utilized. Maybe for box seats or suites, where it would make sense to do multi-year leases.

                                Lastly, $100 per year will still get you on the 50 if you've had season tickets for long enough, based on the rules of the point system (which could change in the future).
                                “I used to be with it. But then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems scary and wierd. It’ll happen to you.” — Abe Simpson

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