UMKC

[Jacked_Up]

Re: UMKC

UND isn't coming any time soon, so I'd welcome KC back. It's a good geographic fit. Of course, KC should have to apologize for leaving and beg its way back in.

[Evolution Prime]

Re: UMKC

UND isn't coming any time soon, so I'd welcome KC back. It's a good geographic fit. Of course, KC should have to apologize for leaving and beg its way back in.

Make them do the Truffle Shuffle.

[NoVaJack]

Re: UMKC

Scheduling is much easier with 10 teams, doubt there is a better fit than UMKC out there as well.

I think people forget that UMKC went out and spent $250k per year to get a good young coach in Kareem Richardson. If they are coming to the Summit with an increased commitment for success I am fine with it.

UND would be the better fit. (Cue angry Bisonville stampede)

[FargoBison]

Re: UMKC

UND would be the better fit. (Cue angry Bisonville stampede)

You rang?

Would rather add a school that cares about hoops, UND pays their MBB coach less than any men's or women's DI head coach in the Dakotas. Zero commitment for success, all their money goes to hockey.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: UMKC

You rang?

Would rather add a school that cares about hoops, UND pays their MBB coach less than any men's or women's DI head coach in the Dakotas. Zero commitment for success, all their money goes to hockey.

Just because their (UND)current coaching staff is on lower spectrum of compensation doesn't mean they are less committed to basketball. Didn't they beat you last year. UND would be great addition to Summit!

[FargoBison]

Re: UMKC

Just because their (UND)current coaching staff is on lower spectrum of compensation doesn't mean they are less committed to basketball. Didn't they beat you last year. UND would be great addition to Summit!

Their women's hockey coach laughs at the salary their basketball coach is getting paid. They have no money to commit to basketball. I am not kidding when I say Jones is at best the 7th highest paid coach on their campus.

They did beat us, we are their super bowl.

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: UMKC

They did beat us, we are their super bowl.

we are familiar with that.

[SDSF]

Re: UMKC

Their women's hockey coach laughs at the salary their basketball coach is getting paid. They have no money to commit to basketball. I am not kidding when I say Jones is at best the 7th highest paid coach on their campus.

They did beat us, we are their super bowl.

UND Coaching Salaries:

Men's Hockey $300+ - National contender every year - 2014 preseason ranking #2.
Women's Hockey $120+ They were at the bottom of D1 several years ago when the program was first started. They have made a couple of national tournaments since - preseason ranking #7.

Women's basketball $115+ They made the national tournament last year. Third year as coach.
Men's Basketball $110 + Recent hire just before DI transition.

Football I think it is around $130 or more.... the w hockey coach and w/m basketball coach are very close in pay. UND is very aware of the how the coaches pay is lagging behind other Big Sky schools and they are looking to close the gap.

UND has a fairly new separate arena for basketball and volleyball not as nice as some the facilities being built now by USD and NDSU. But, it is a very nice facility. There is plenty of support for UND basketball. They just have to figure out how to beat Weber St.

http://und.edu/features/2013/11/home-cooking.cfm

[FargoBison]

Re: UMKC

The hockey assistants also make more than Jones. So he is in at 6th, I guess I was close.

UND has a nice arena for the Big Sky. A league where basketball isn't a big deal like the Big Sky is a good fit for UND.

[frozennorth]

Re: UMKC

Personally in favor of the addition. Many of the schools have large alumni populations in KC, and UMKC does seem more interested in fielding a competitive product on the court. I doubt they are coming back to lose.

Just because their (UND)current coaching staff is on lower spectrum of compensation doesn't mean they are less committed to basketball. Didn't they beat you last year. UND would be great addition to Summit!

They really don't give a damn about sports that aren't hockey or not being played against NDSU that particular night.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: UMKC

UND Coaching Salaries:

Men's Hockey $300+ - National contender every year - 2014 preseason ranking #2.
Women's Hockey $120+ They were at the bottom of D1 several years ago when the program was first started. They have made a couple of national tournaments since - preseason ranking #7.

Women's basketball $115+ They made the national tournament last year. Third year as coach.
Men's Basketball $110 + Recent hire just before DI transition.

Football I think it is around $130 or more.... the w hockey coach and w/m basketball coach are very close in pay. UND is very aware of the how the coaches pay is lagging behind other Big Sky schools and they are looking to close the gap.

UND has a fairly new separate arena for basketball and volleyball not as nice as some the facilities being built now by USD and NDSU. But, it is a very nice facility. There is plenty of support for UND basketball. They just have to figure out how to beat Weber St.

http://und.edu/features/2013/11/home-cooking.cfm

3300 seating capacity at the Betty seems pretty light... but I am one that thinks UND would be a great addition to the Summit.

[propar80]

Re: UMKC

Personally in favor of the addition. Many of the schools have large alumni populations in KC, and UMKC does seem more interested in fielding a competitive product on the court. I doubt they are coming back to lose.


They really don't give a damn about sports that aren't hockey or not being played against NDSU that particular night.

I get what the Bison fans are saying about UND and their priorities. But would the student/fan following really be less than say IUPUI/IPFW/UnO/UMKC/wIU?? Heck...even USD on non-SDSU games??

[FargoBison]

Re: UMKC

I get what the Bison fans are saying about UND and their priorities. But would the student/fan following really be less than say IUPUI/IPFW/UnO/UMKC/wIU?? Heck...even USD on non-SDSU games??

It depends on if the hockey team is or isn't playing on that day.

GF is a horrible basketball town, the state tournament always draws smaller crowds when the tournament is there. The entire city revolves around hockey.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: UMKC

It depends on if the hockey team is or isn't playing on that day.

GF is a horrible basketball town, the state tournament always draws smaller crowds when the tournament is there. The entire city revolves around hockey.

Pretty much every team in the league has second fiddle issues except the xDSU's. A person could make a pretty decent argument that Fargo revolves around football... on a population/attendance ratio for men's basketball, UMKC might have you beat.

After UMKC, can anyone name a better option than UND? To be clear, I'm not saying UND is on the table in any way, but it would be a no-brainer if they were.

Joining the Summit, cutting travel costs dramatically, and improving rivalry attendance would free up money to pay their hoops coaches more. Assuming Hockey doesn't suck up that money as quickly as its saved.

[FargoBison]

Re: UMKC

Pretty much every team in the league has second fiddle issues except the xDSU's. A person could make a pretty decent argument that Fargo revolves around football... on a population/attendance ratio for men's basketball, UMKC might have you beat.

After UMKC, can anyone name a better option than UND? To be clear, I'm not saying UND is on the table in any way, but it would be a no-brainer if they were.

Joining the Summit, cutting travel costs dramatically, and improving rivalry attendance would free up money to pay their hoops coaches more. Assuming Hockey doesn't suck up that money as quickly as its saved.

I am not completely against UND, I would just rather have UMKC and I think adding UMKC would make the IUPUI, IPFW and ORU's of the Summit happier. I like that UMKC is paying their coach big money, it shows to me that they want to be something better. I've never seen that kind of commitment from UND in hoops. You can say NDSU is a huge football school, but we are paying Richman a decent salary and we are spending $40 million to fix our arena. We are committed to getting better.

All I want is a 10 team league, great for scheduling and is a very solid/stable number. So just give me one more school, to go bigger than that it would need to be a school that adds real value.