Conference Merry Go Round

[filbert]

Rumors bubbling around that Oregon might be next to go to the Big 10. If that happens, Pac 12 is going to have to do something, and fast. Wouldn't be surprised if SMU would be on their radar. The other SDSU has also been discussed, although who knows if those discussing these actually know anything.

I heard Stanford might be mulling going non-scholly (i.e. Ivy-like). Total Pac-12 implosion is possible, but I would guess that they're not going to go down without some kind of fight.

On the other hand, if I'm the Big 12, and Oregon does jump to the Big 10, I go ahead and basically invite all of the entire remaining Pac 12 schools (Washington, WSU, OSU, Cal, Arizona, ASU, Utah) to join Colorado in what would become in 2024-25 a twenty-team megaconference (which is pretty obviously where the SEC and Big 10 are headed). Meanwhile, the ACC schools are, I understand, kind of frozen in place because of the rights deal they've signed with the conference. Sucks right now to be them, I guess.

My expectation is that will have zero effect on the xDSU's, as the Mountain West is IMHO more likely to survive right now than the Pac-12 is.

That and five bucks will buy you a double-whip frappe or whatever at some uppity "coffee" shop.

[DieselJacks]

It looks like Colorado is rejoining the Big 12. The next few months are going to be interesting. Will the Pac 12 survive? If they do, who do they take as members? If they take from the Mountain West, who will the MWC take to replace members? Although unlikely, the Jacks may get involved in this round of the circus.

[Grizzled_Jack]

St. Francis Brooklyn of the NEC announced their athletics program is getting cut completely. I think a lot of smaller conferences are going to see programs struggle like this in the future. I still have concerns in the Summit League with Western Illinois.

It's my shortest drive to see the Jacks, but WIU would be better off in the OVC or dropping to D2 and joining the Great Lakes Valley--they'd be a natural rival for Truman and Quincy. However, no one I've talked to, including someone who coordinates refs for the GLVC wants to drive up there. If you've been to Kirksville, the idea that Macomb is even more isolated is pretty depressing.

[DieselJacks]

St. Francis Brooklyn of the NEC announced their athletics program is getting cut completely. I think a lot of smaller conferences are going to see programs struggle like this in the future. I still have concerns in the Summit League with Western Illinois.

[filbert]

What’s the future of SDSU/NDSU in the MVC and Summit? Does the Summit expand to solidify or lose members and react?


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IMHO there's a bigger chance of SDSU and/or NDSU going up to FBS than there is for them to join the MVC. I don't think the MVC has a lot of interest in expanding their footprint into the Dakotas at all.

What might change that is if the SU's make the men's NCAA tournament and make a couple of Sweet Sixteens

[JRFanatic]

What’s the future of SDSU/NDSU in the MVC and Summit? Does the Summit expand to solidify or lose members and react?


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[filbert]

some updates

"At a swim and dive championship banquet in Houston yesterday, the San Diego State Athletic Director told people SDSU will be joining the Pac-12 and it will be announced soon." tweet source - guy covers Arizona Wildcats athletics for what it's worth - 13k followers but no blue check mark

also from reporter Jon Wilner with The Mercury News (a San Jose paper), “The [Pac-12] university presidents discussed SMU and San Diego State as expansion candidates during a meeting last week and approved commissioner George Kliavkoff taking the next step in the complicated process of adding membership, according to sources with knowledge of the meeting.

Sources emphasized that the approval was informal in nature — the presidents did not vote to add specific schools — but expansion is viewed as highly likely.”

SMU? SMU? Yeesh. If true...How the self-viewed mighty Pac-12 has fallen!

(The Big 12 swooping in and grabbing SMU would make a lot more sense to me...it doesn't add a new market, but the SMU-TCU 'civil wars' in DFW would definitely add some spice there.)

[peavy]

San Diego States says there's nothing to rumor they're leaving for the Pac 12 -- which probably means they'll be moving soon

some updates

"At a swim and dive championship banquet in Houston yesterday, the San Diego State Athletic Director told people SDSU will be joining the Pac-12 and it will be announced soon." tweet source - guy covers Arizona Wildcats athletics for what it's worth - 13k followers but no blue check mark

also from reporter Jon Wilner with The Mercury News (a San Jose paper), “The [Pac-12] university presidents discussed SMU and San Diego State as expansion candidates during a meeting last week and approved commissioner George Kliavkoff taking the next step in the complicated process of adding membership, according to sources with knowledge of the meeting.

Sources emphasized that the approval was informal in nature — the presidents did not vote to add specific schools — but expansion is viewed as highly likely.”

[jakejc795]

Why not conference of SDSU, NDSU, MSU, UM, WSU, ISU, UW, CSU, AFA, USU, UI?

The "Mountain" portion of the MWC would be an idea I could support.

Tangentially related -- how awesome would it be to establish some scheduling arrangement with the service academies given SD's level of military enlistment

[Prairiehaas]

Why not conference of SDSU, NDSU, MSU, UM, WSU, ISU, UW, CSU, AFA, USU, UI?

[jakejc795]

I'm sure Hawaii would absolutely LOVE those late November trips to the Dakotas...

Too bad they won't drop football. Those would be wicked travel expenses.

[filbert]

I wonder if Boise State is also poised to make a move? Would love to see SDSU and NDSU into the Mountain West along with the Montana schools. Would prefer football only, but that may not be an option.

I'm sure Hawaii would absolutely LOVE those late November trips to the Dakotas...

[jacksfaninne]

San Diego States says there's nothing to rumor they're leaving for the Pac 12 -- which probably means they'll be moving soon

[JACKGUYII]

The chess pieces are starting to move out west. San Diego State reportedly going to the Pac 12 and will be announced this week, per Dan Patrick Show.

Edit: I would be very happy if SDSU was replaced by SDSU.

I wonder if Boise State is also poised to make a move? Would love to see SDSU and NDSU into the Mountain West along with the Montana schools. Would prefer football only, but that may not be an option.

[DieselJacks]

The chess pieces are starting to move out west. San Diego State reportedly going to the Pac 12 and will be announced this week, per Dan Patrick Show.

Edit: I would be very happy if SDSU was replaced by SDSU.