Wyoming Shootout (UWyo in Casper)

[SDSUFAN]

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I hope you don't feel like you can't post your opinions here.  This is a public message board, that is the whole reason for this forum IMO.  This wouldn't be a very entertaining discussion if everyone who posted was an SDSU homer with their heads in the clouds.  We always need some levity from time to time, and I think you have done a great job at bringing that to the table.  You seem to be pretty knowledgeable of South Dakota High School and national collegiate athletics, which I myself enjoy hearing from.  I'm not saying I agree with everything you've said, but this wouldn't be much of a debate if everyone agreed  

Jack02:
You dont suppose Cadsev is really Mike H do you? His opinions, his great knowledge, is compliement or lack of them for SDSU is very similar. Where is Mike H these days? Just very curious.

[Jacks02]

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Jack02:
You dont suppose Cadsev is really Mike H do you? His opinions, his great knowledge, is compliement or lack of them for SDSU is very similar.  Where is Mike H these days? Just very curious.

I like conspiracy theories, but I don't think this one sticks. Thanks for the laugh though

[JACKRP]

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I am not sure that is so funny! SDSUFAN could be right on the money!

[Rabbitden]

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I was just reminded by a little birdy that AJ might have a slight problem in getting hired to a major DI program.

He is male, you think they will break the mold?

I would hate to see him leave with the talent they are already getting. Add the fact that the more they prove they can beat some of these major programs the recruiting can only get better.

GO JACKS!

[Cadsev]

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Jack02:
You dont suppose Cadsev is really Mike H do you? His opinions, his great knowledge, is compliement or lack of them for SDSU is very similar.  Where is Mike H these days? Just very curious.

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not Mike H. Someone who uses his true identity would not change his name to a handle less obvious. I have not bashed SDSU for going DI and will state again that I'm happy they are DI.

[Cadsev]

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I was just reminded by a little birdy that AJ might have a slight problem in getting hired to a major DI program.

He is male, you think they will break the mold?

I would hate to see him leave with the talent they are already getting. Add the fact that the more they prove they can beat some of these major programs the recruiting can only get better.

GO JACKS!

There are plenty of Male coaches in DI women's basketball. Unfortunately money talks in the business world of college hoops. It would be a shame if he bolted for bigger and better. Is it a stretch to assume that the Penn State job would be in his reach if they dismiss their current coach given the circumstances that surrounds that program?

[SDSUFAN]

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I like conspiracy theories, but I don't think this one sticks.  Thanks for the laugh though  

I really was not looking for conspiracy, but Mike H's last post on this board was Nov 5; Cadsev joined on Nov 3 and may his first post Nov 3. Maybe coincidence but language, the tone of arguements displayed in this thread, the direction of arguements seem to appear that of Mike H.

If it's coincidence then so be it. There is no limit on the handles you can have on this board, just ask Big Jake and Mav No1. ;D

[jackmd]

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Cadsev, you have made many very realistic points on this thread, and seem to know a great deal about the conference subject and move to DI in general.  I appreciate your posts and enjoyed reading them.

I second this and I appreciate 89rabbits counterpoints.

Reality (at least in my mind) is that it will be very rare if any major DI schools play in Brookings. There is no incentive for them to do so. Once we find a conference and its associated home schedule our pre-conference schedule will most likely consist of an occasional major conference team ( on the road, 1 or 2 successful mid-major (NCAA tournament teams in recent past) teams at Frost and on the road with the rest filled by indy teams or those who made the move up with us. There will also be the early season tourneys and those will vary from year to year. I certainly don't expect us to sponsor a tourney for sometime unless Dak, Wells Fargo, First National, etc.. wants to foot the bill.

I think its easy to misinterpret posts as negative when in fact they are just different viewpoints. I find it frustrating that there isn't satisfaction with the current schedule. I don't know what else people would expect. I am thrilled with Butler, UW-Mil, Manhatten, Denver, etc.. in SD.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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I know both Cadsev and Mike_H and they are not one in the same. I also know that Cadsev is pro-SDSU going D1 as we have discussed it at length before. I'd be the first to argue with him on his points about SDSU and our ability to schedule big name schools in SD, but I think he's right.

The biggest name UWMilwaukee has on their home schedule this season is Hawaii and that was a home-home series. This from a team hot off the sweet 16. It's really a double edged sword. If your school/team is a small fry, noone will come here unless they are a small fry or possibly a medium fry. If your school starts winning and climb out of the hot oil of the small fries (as Gonzaga did), no one wants to come to play you because they don't want some small fry making a splash by beating them when they can just pay the School for the Blind 40K and almost guarantee a win to start the season. If we want to beat big name schools, no matter how good we get, it's probably going to be at that school or in the big dance.

It's actually a problem we may face as a conference in football as well. Since our conference is quickly becoming one of the best in 1AA, more teams are going to be wary of scheduling a home-home series against us. When you look at a school from the A-10. Why would they schedule one of our schools and possibly lose with their entire conference schedule ahead of them? That's why Montana keeps buying out all of the back end games of their home-home series.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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\I find it frustrating that there isn't satisfaction with the current schedule.  I don't know what else people would expect.  I am thrilled with Butler, UW-Mil, Manhatten, Denver, etc.. in SD.

Couldn't agree more. It's pretty hard to argue against our current schedule. Even though we are playing the BIG names at their place, at least we're playing them. If you would have told me 10 years ago that SDSU would start the season with Kentucky and Illinois on the basketball schedule, I would have laughed. Now, it's a reality and the possibility to win one of those games is always there. That's the exciting thing about it even though we've played so poorly most of this season. We can still believe that some day we will beat a Kentucky.

[SDSUFAN]

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I know both Cadsev and Mike_H and they are not one in the same.  I also know that Cadsev is pro-SDSU going D1 as we have discussed it at length before.  I'd be the first to argue with him on his points about SDSU and our ability to schedule big name schools in SD, but I think he's right.  

The biggest name UWMilwaukee has on their home schedule this season is Hawaii and that was a home-home series.  This from a team hot off the sweet 16.  It's really a double edged sword.  If your school/team is a small fry, noone will come here unless they are a small fry or possibly a medium fry.  If your school starts winning and climb out of the hot oil of the small fries (as Gonzaga did), no one wants to come to play you because they don't want some small fry making a splash by beating them when they can just pay the School for the Blind 40K and almost guarantee a win to start the season.  If we want to beat big name schools, no matter how good we get, it's probably going to be at that school or in the big dance.

It's actually a problem we may face as a conference in football as well.  Since our conference is quickly becoming one of the best in 1AA, more teams are going to be wary of scheduling a home-home series against us.  When you look at a school from the A-10.  Why would they schedule one of our schools and possibly lose with their entire conference schedule ahead of them?  That's why Montana keeps buying out all of the back end games of their home-home series.

MJA:
If indeed you know Cadsev and Mike H are two different individuals that you know and can attest that they are indeed not the same person, I will accept that. My apologies to Cadsev. Your points about scheduling are well taken.

[Rabbitden]

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I think you are all going to be awed when you see some of the teams that SDSU is working on contracts with in the future.

One thing nobody is looking at is how the two SU's are working together on scheduling. NDSU got Manhattan this year because of our home and away contract and since they were coming here anyway they could schedule another game with out straining their budget.

More schools are looking at doing this because of their budgets. We will have some fun games here in the Den...just you wait and see. :

GO JACKS!

[Cadsev]

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I know both Cadsev and Mike_H and they are not one in the same.  I also know that Cadsev is pro-SDSU going D1 as we have discussed it at length before.  I'd be the first to argue with him on his points about SDSU and our ability to schedule big name schools in SD, but I think he's right.  

The biggest name UWMilwaukee has on their home schedule this season is Hawaii and that was a home-home series.  This from a team hot off the sweet 16.  It's really a double edged sword.  If your school/team is a small fry, noone will come here unless they are a small fry or possibly a medium fry.  If your school starts winning and climb out of the hot oil of the small fries (as Gonzaga did), no one wants to come to play you because they don't want some small fry making a splash by beating them when they can just pay the School for the Blind 40K and almost guarantee a win to start the season.  If we want to beat big name schools, no matter how good we get, it's probably going to be at that school or in the big dance.

It's actually a problem we may face as a conference in football as well.  Since our conference is quickly becoming one of the best in 1AA, more teams are going to be wary of scheduling a home-home series against us.  When you look at a school from the A-10.  Why would they schedule one of our schools and possibly lose with their entire conference schedule ahead of them?  That's why Montana keeps buying out all of the back end games of their home-home series.

I'll add that the UW Milwaukee vs. Hawaii game was the back end deal of the bracket buster game from last year. ESPN arranges the games but the teams are required to travel to the other teams site the following year. Wow tough bracket buster game flying to Hawaii for one game. That would suck! ;D

[Cadsev]

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MJA:
If indeed Cadsev and Mike H are two different individuals that you know and can attest that they are indeed not the same person, I will accept that. My apologies to Cadsev. Your points about scheduling are well taken.

What it took someone else to tell you that we weren't the same person and I'm suppose to accept your appology. In my younger days I'd tell you to screw off, but I'm not going to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

[SDSUFAN]

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What it took someone else to tell you that we weren't the same person and I'm suppose to accept your appology.  In my younger days I'd tell you to screw off, but I'm not going to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.  

If its too tough to accept an apology, then thats your problem. I did my part.