Summit League Standings

[gojacksgo]

Re: Summit League Standings

Standings updated in first post through February 12th. Jacks in 6th place now.

IUPUI 79 Centenary 67
SDSU 74 Southern Utah 69
NDSU 87 UMKC 49
Oral Roberts 49 Western Illinois 47

[NoVaJack]

Re: Summit League Standings

Standings updated in first post through February 12th. Jacks in 6th place now.

IUPUI 79 Centenary 67
SDSU 74 Southern Utah 69
NDSU 87 UMKC 49
Oral Roberts 49 Western Illinois 47

from earlier post on game thread


Standings:
NDSU 13-1 (SUU, SDSU, @Cent @ORU)
ORU 10-3 (IUPUI, @SUU, @UMKC, SDSU, NDSU)
Oakland 9-5 (@WIU, @IUPUI, SUU, UMKC)
IUPUI 7-7 (@ORU, IPFW, Oakland, @WIU)
SUU 6-7 (@NDSU, ORU, Cent, @Oakland, @IPFW)
SDSU 6-8 (UMKC, @NDSU, @ORU, @Cent)
IPFW 5-8 (@Oakland, @IUPUI, @WIU, UMKC, Cent)
Centenary 5-8 (WIU, @UMKC, @SUU, NDSU, SDSU)
WIU 5-9 (@Centenary, Oakland, IPFW, IUPUI)
UMKC 2-11 (@SDSU, Centenary, ORU< @IPFW, @Oakland)

Jacks need Saturday night and IMHO have a decent shot at two of three on road after it... Make that centenary game a shot at fourth or fifth seed.

[NoVaJack]

Re: Summit League Standings

from earlier post on game thread


Standings:
NDSU 13-1 (SUU, SDSU, @Cent @ORU)
ORU 10-3 (IUPUI, @SUU, @UMKC, SDSU, NDSU)
Oakland 9-5 (@WIU, @IUPUI, SUU, UMKC)
IUPUI 7-7 (@ORU, IPFW, Oakland, @WIU)
SUU 6-7 (@NDSU, ORU, Cent, @Oakland, @IPFW)
SDSU 6-8 (UMKC, @NDSU, @ORU, @Cent)
IPFW 5-8 (@Oakland, @IUPUI, @WIU, UMKC, Cent)
Centenary 5-8 (WIU, @UMKC, @SUU, NDSU, SDSU)
WIU 5-9 (@Centenary, Oakland, IPFW, IUPUI)
UMKC 2-11 (@SDSU, Centenary, ORU< @IPFW, @Oakland)

Jacks need Saturday night and IMHO have a decent shot at two of three on road after it... Make that centenary game a shot at fourth or fifth seed.

forgot to add that Jacks have fourth toughest schedule in summitt: Bison have third easiest one. ORU has by far the toughest schedule.

[Jacks99]

Re: SDSU's playoff chances

Did some rough numbers. If you give NDSU, ORU, Oakland and IUPUI wins against the deadlocked teams (big assumption) and give UMKC losses agains them, then figure out how many wins the rest need to match SDSU's record (with win Sat), since one team needs to win all the deadlock games, the rest fall into place and one is left sitting out. It's likely that one of those teams

I'm sure that didn't make much sense, and it's not going to happen like that, but it does look like with a win tomorrow that SDSU is very likely in the tourney. Too many ways for another team to struggle and miss out.

I'd rather see a road win, even before Centary. As someone said, it's exiting that there is actually something to play for at this point.

[1stRowFANatic]

Re: Summit League Standings

After February 14th, 2009

1. NDSU 13-2
2. Oral Roberts 11-3
3. Oakland 9-5
4. Southern Utah 7-7
5. IUPUI 7-8
6. SDSU 7-8
7. WIU 6-9
8. Centenary 5-9
9. IPFW 5-9
10. UMKC 2-12

I believe this is updated correctly.

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Summit League Standings

After February 14th, 2009

1. NDSU 13-2
2. Oral Roberts 11-3
3. Oakland 9-5
4. Southern Utah 7-7
5. IUPUI 7-8
6. SDSU 7-8
7. WIU 6-9
8. Centenary 5-9
9. IPFW 5-9
10. UMKC 2-12

I believe this is updated correctly.

Do we have the tie breaker over IUPUI? Did they beat NDSU or Oral Roberts?

[Jacks#1Fan]

Re: Summit League Standings

After February 14th, 2009

1. NDSU 13-2
2. Oral Roberts 11-3
3. Oakland 9-5
4. Southern Utah 7-7
5. IUPUI 7-8
6. SDSU 7-8
7. WIU 6-9
8. Centenary 5-9
9. IPFW 5-9
10. UMKC 2-12

I believe this is updated correctly.

Southern Utah's victory over the Bison hurt in our hunt for the tournament. Unless I'm wrong (possible), it looks like, if we want to enter outright (not looking at head-to-head), that we will NEED to win one of the three remaining games, unless:

1) UMKC beats Centenary, or
2) WIU loses all three of their remaining games, or
3) IPFW loses all four reamining games, including against UMKC

Standings:
NDSU 13-2 (SDSU, @Cent @ORU)
ORU 11-3 (@SUU, @UMKC, SDSU, NDSU)
Oakland 9-5 (@WIU, @IUPUI, SUU, UMKC)
IUPUI 7-8 (IPFW, Oakland, @WIU)
SUU 7-7 (ORU, Cent, @Oakland, @IPFW)
SDSU 7-8 (@NDSU, @ORU, @Cent)
IPFW 5-9 (@IUPUI, @WIU, UMKC, Cent)
Centenary 5-9 (@UMKC, @SUU, NDSU, SDSU)
WIU 6-9 (Oakland, IPFW, IUPUI)
UMKC 2-12 (Centenary, ORU< @IPFW, @Oakland)

[NoVaJack]

Re: Summit League Standings

Southern Utah's victory over the Bison hurt in our hunt for the tournament. Unless I'm wrong (possible), it looks like, if we want to enter outright (not looking at head-to-head), that we will NEED to win one of the three remaining games, unless:

1) UMKC beats Centenary, or
2) WIU loses all three of their remaining games, or
3) IPFW loses all four reamining games, including against UMKC

Standings:
NDSU 13-2 (SDSU, @Cent @ORU)
ORU 11-3 (@SUU, @UMKC, SDSU, NDSU)
Oakland 9-5 (@WIU, @IUPUI, SUU, UMKC)
IUPUI 7-8 (IPFW, Oakland, @WIU)
SUU 7-7 (ORU, Cent, @Oakland, @IPFW)
SDSU 7-8 (@NDSU, @ORU, @Cent)
IPFW 5-9 (@IUPUI, @WIU, UMKC, Cent)
Centenary 5-9 (@UMKC, @SUU, NDSU, SDSU)
WIU 6-9 (Oakland, IPFW, IUPUI)
UMKC 2-12 (Centenary, ORU< @IPFW, @Oakland)

Hi, this has a slight error in it and it might have come off an erroneous post from me last week... sorry about that. IPFW finishes with SUU, not Centenary, and that could change the calcluation slightly.

Here's what I posted on game thread last night. Believe this is accurate schedule.


When Nagy said that Jacks' Oakland win at home was big, he wasn't kidding.
NDSU blowing it tonight really hurt Jacks' chances, and I hate to say it, but it COULD come down to Jacks needing to win at Centenary. Jacks need UMKC to rise to the occasion and beat Centenary next week. Don't want this to get down to tiebreakers. WIU has three tough games but all are at home.
A win in Fargo would clinch tournament berth for Jacks, though.

NDSU 13-2 (SDSU, @Cent @ORU)
ORU 11-3 (@SUU, @UMKC, SDSU, NDSU)
Oakland 10-5 (@IUPUI, SUU, UMKC)
SUU 7-7 (ORU, Cent, @Oakland, @IPFW)
IUPUI 7-8 (IPFW, Oakland, @WIU)
SDSU 7-8 (@NDSU, @ORU, @Cent)
WIU 6-9 (Oakland, IPFW, IUPUI)
IPFW 5-9 ( @IUPUI, @WIU, UMKC, SUU)
Centenary 5-9 (@UMKC, @SUU, NDSU, SDSU)
UMKC 2-12 (Centenary, ORU, @IPFW, @Oakland)

[Jacks#1Fan]

Re: Summit League Standings

I did use the information from your earlier post NVJ, and you are right, it does make one change in the calculation. IPFW only needs to lose three of four for us to get in without a win in our remaining three games, i.e., a win over UMKC for them, and three losses would put them out of contention.

[valleyrabbit]

Re: Summit League Standings

Southern Utah's victory over the Bison hurt in our hunt for the tournament. Unless I'm wrong (possible), it looks like, if we want to enter outright (not looking at head-to-head), that we will NEED to win one of the three remaining games, unless:

1) UMKC beats Centenary, or
2) WIU loses all three of their remaining games, or
3) IPFW loses all four reamining games, including against UMKC

Standings:
NDSU 13-2 (SDSU, @Cent @ORU)
ORU 11-3 (@SUU, @UMKC, SDSU, NDSU)
Oakland 9-5 (@WIU, @IUPUI, SUU, UMKC)
IUPUI 7-8 (IPFW, Oakland, @WIU)
SUU 7-7 (ORU, Cent, @Oakland, @IPFW)
SDSU 7-8 (@NDSU, @ORU, @Cent)
IPFW 5-9 (@IUPUI, @WIU, UMKC, Cent)
Centenary 5-9 (@UMKC, @SUU, NDSU, SDSU)
WIU 6-9 (Oakland, IPFW, IUPUI)
UMKC 2-12 (Centenary, ORU< @IPFW, @Oakland)

We have the tiebreakers vs. IPFW, Centenery, and WIU unless Centeney can beat NDSU. IPFW has to win 3 of 4 and we need to lose out inorder for them to finish ahead of us. Same with Centenery. Western would have to win 2 of 3 and we would have to lose out. We haven't clinched yet, but we are definitely in the driver's seat. A win or two would sure help seeding though.

[Just in the crowd]

Re: SDSU's playoff chances

What happens if the following happens?

Centenary, SDSU, IUPFW & Western Illinois all finish at 7-11 tieing for places 6-9?

Does anyone know how they do the tiebreakers?

[jackmd]

Re: SDSU's playoff chances

What happens if the following happens?

Centenary, SDSU, IUPFW & Western Illinois all finish at 7-11 tieing for places 6-9?

Does anyone know how they do the tiebreakers?

Last years rules:

After the 18 game conference season, teams are seeded by conference record with the following tie-breakers:

* Head-to-head competition
* Winning percentage vs. ranked conference teams (starting with #1 and moving down until the tie is broken)
* Ratings Percentage Index
* Coin flip

Current standings:
NDSU 13-2 (SDSU, @Cent @ORU)
ORU 11-3 (@SUU, @UMKC, SDSU, NDSU)
Oakland 10-5 (@IUPUI, SUU, UMKC)
SUU 7-7 (ORU, Cent, @Oakland, @IPFW)
IUPUI 7-8 (IPFW, Oakland, @WIU)
SDSU 7-8 (@NDSU, @ORU, @Cent)
WIU 6-9 (Oakland, IPFW, IUPUI)
IPFW 5-9 ( @IUPUI, @WIU, UMKC, SUU)
Centenary 5-9 (@UMKC, @SUU, NDSU, SDSU)
UMKC 2-12 (Centenary, ORU, @IPFW, @Oakland)

[Jacks#1Fan]

Re: SDSU's playoff chances

All this is probably better covered at the latter part of the STANDINGS thread. Suggest moderators lock this thread so all the info is just on one thread?

[Just in the crowd]

Re: Summit League Standings

What happens if the following happens?

Centenary, SDSU, IUPFW & Western Illinois all finish at 7-11 tieing for places 6-9?

Does anyone know how they do the tiebreakers?

[filbert]

Re: Summit League Standings

What happens if the following happens?

Centenary, SDSU, IUPFW & Western Illinois all finish at 7-11 tieing for places 6-9?

Does anyone know how they do the tiebreakers?

I merged the "SDSU Playoff Chances" thread in with this one . . . the tiebreaker procedure for the Summit League can now be found upthread here.