NDSU Game Thread

[rabbit_boy]

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How many more wins will it take to get into the conference tournament? 3 or 4 possibly.

[JackFan96]

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A loss like that should hurt. Bad. Too many wins are being left on the court. It's getting old. I'm sure the team feels the same way and all. I'm just losing patience and have run out of sympathy. It's time for wins. Now. Plain and simple. No excuses. Get the job done instead of letting it slip away. The time for complete, consistent effort and execution past due. Until then...I'll be waiting.

[filbert]

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This game was 38/45ths of a good effort.

Therefore, it was NOT a good effort.

Let's try it again on Thursday night!

[joeboo22]

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Evaluating the first half of the conference they are doing record wise about where i thought they would before the season started.... However when you're 1-2 plays away from winning 3 and having a 5 game winning streak it bothers me.... I think its no longer a coaches deal but a players deal... The coaches are putting them in a position to win and the players have to take the torch to the finish line.... I think the second half will show what this team is made of.... If the players want it they'll have to take control, they'll have to win atleast 1 game next week and would help a lot if they won both...

[NoVaJack]

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Evaluating the first half of the conference they are doing record wise about where i thought they would before the season started.... However when you're 1-2 plays away from winning 3 and having a 5 game winning streak it bothers me.... I think its no longer a coaches deal but a players deal... The coaches are putting them in a position to win and the players have to take the torch to the finish line.... I think the second half will show what this team is made of.... If the players want it they'll have to take control, they'll have to win atleast 1 game next week and would help a lot if they won both...

There is no reason this team can't go 6-3 or better the rest of the way. Expect it and it will happen.

[joeboo22]

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There is no reason this team can't go 6-3 or better the rest of the way. Expect it and it will happen.

AMEN to that.... I think that they proved that they can compete in the first half of the conference schedule now they just have to prove they can win....

[Jacks99]

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Back from the game. Good effort. Was worried they looked flat, but played with even emotions throughout the game which helped, but needed a bit more fire.

Need to get Kai involved more. MUST have Moss in during key stretches and the end. Good things happen when he's in.

Nagy wanted the screen for Garrett, not sure if it was for a 3 or drive, hope it was to take it inside because shooting 3's tonight was not the answer.

These guys can compete with anyone in the conference and should only get better. It's hard not to look to the future and get exited for the next 1-2 years. BUT, this team needs to finish the 2nd half strong and not give up. So far they haven't. This team is heads and tails better than 2-3 years ago.

Looking forward to being at the Oakland game with hopefully a chance at the 2nd win of the weekend.

Forgot to mention that AC was unbelievable, couldn't stop him. His Animal nickname seemed to fit.

[tjbison]

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You'll love it, it's all about the refs, they could never lose to us without the refs

OK i know im late on this reply but you'll find that the "senior" posters on Bisonville are less to blame the refs! I for one thought the refs sucked for both sides tonight actually they were Horrible, don't know if anybody else noticed but it seemed to be a 5 min swing for calls to either team, just crap IMO!

[mango4]

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OK i know im late on this reply but you'll find that the "senior" posters on Bisonville are less to blame the refs! I for one thought the refs sucked for both sides tonight actually they were Horrible, don't know if anybody else noticed but it seemed to be a 5 min swing for calls to either team, just crap IMO!

I know, it did just seem like every time, a foul was called people over there were complaining about it. The refs weren't good tonight, hell they usually aren't in the Summit.

[tjbison]

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Coach said they're not executing. I think that much was clear. Does anybody here really think Nagy diagrammed a play where Callahan takes a 32-foot shot with five seconds left? Can't blame the coaches for that. I'd say Nagy and his coaches had our players well prepared for this game.

Just got back from the game. Great effort. NDSU has a very weak bench after the top four guys. We're going to hand them their rear ends next year. This year, though, and in particular at the end of this game, we saw some very savvy seniors from NDSU take over the game while our slightly less experienced team struggled a little at crunch time. It hurts us when Cordova sits for those last two minutes because of his poor foul shooting. For the three minutes before that, we were getting layups because they were so concerned about AC. When he was out, we were forcing it, and they were able to play us straight up. If AC can become a solid free throw shooter, it'll really make a difference having him in as a threat on the offensive end at the end of games.

Woodside is simply the best player in the league. And it's not close. Winkelman just makes shots. He's not pretty, but he's long and fairly fleet afoot for his size. We did a great job on Nelson, who killed us last year.

What can you say? NDSU has an experienced and savvy team. Our guys played well enough to beat them, but it just didn't happen.

Great crowd and great energy in Frost tonight, though. Felt like old times.

LOL! whatever!!! SDSU has Great players, man your guys have great talent hope NDSU and SDSU can own the summit but, yes we lose 4 Awsome players, but our bench has been able to come in and give a rest to the starters and still manage a apparently poor 8-1 conference record!!! if our bench is weak than well... SDSU won't have a bench next year!

[tjbison]

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I know, it did just seem like every time, a foul was called people over there were complaining about it. The refs weren't good tonight, hell they usually aren't in the Summit.

Talked with you on Bisonville, and I will not argue at all with the refs!!!!!!!

[mango4]

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Talked with you on Bisonville, and I will not argue at all with the refs!!!!!!!

I didn't make friends with my first post over there, whoops. Just frustrated about the team, so I made a dumb comment, o well I think most posters over there are over it.

[joeboo22]

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Maybe he doesn't understand that SDSU will have 2 true freshman who should see considerable time next year...

As far as NDSU next year vs. SDSU's is that SDSU's will be more proven... Its hard to see how good they are when the seniors do so much on the team...

[jackrabbit1979]

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Good game tonight...I thought we had pulled it out up five with one minute to go. Woodside and Winkleman are incredible players, we had no answer for them. The rest of the Bison squad...not so much. I like our chances the next few years, but that doesn't take the sting away from tonight. We had another Summit victory in our hands and choked it away.

Crowd was pretty loud and active even though the overall numbers weren't as big as expected - it didn't seem like there were 3600+ there to me. Loved being told to sit down with a minute left in regulation from the old guys two or three rows behind me. [Sarcasm alert] I'm sure our players would want us to sit on our hands and not make some noise during the most important minute of the game. It will probably also help in recruiting the type of athletes we need if we can bring kids in to Frost to see a lethargic crowd that won't stand up and make noise when the team deserves it. [Sarcasm alert over] Good thing my son was with me, otherwise I probably would have opened my mouth and regreted something I said back to him.

[zooropa]

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if our bench is weak than well... SDSU won't have a bench next year!

Exactly the sort of 'kid brother' attitude that I've come to expect from some NDSU fans.

Our bench outplayed yours by any measure you'd care to put to it. You had no one that came off the bench with the impact Dale Moss had, and the stats all favor SDSU's bench as well. How that comes to mean that SDSU will have a worse bench next year (seeing how they didn't start a senior and you guys started four) completely escapes me.

I will readily grant that this is NDSU's year. You guys will be talking about Woodside, Winkelman, and Nelson for years, and rightfully so.

But please, oh, puhleeeeeze, spare us the assertion that NDSU is better than SDSU from top to bottom, as it plainly is not so.

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As to the game itself, Nagy summed it up perfectly in the post game press conference: "They're not the steps we'd like to be taking. They're still, for us, steps in the right direction."

Regarding where the SDSU men's team is at, they're very very close. It was not a lack of talent that cost them the game tonight. It was not a lack of desire. It was a lack of poise.

SDSU did not play, over the last minute, like a team that was comfortable holding a 5 point lead on a good team. They played to lose, and they lost.