2009-10 Recruits

[Jack4Life]

Re: 2009-10 Recruits

I haven't seen White and Fiegen play in person since the Hansen Classic last year. I did watch the tourney on line, but it sounds like White is much healthier this season. He was still pretty gimpy at the Classic last year.

[mango4]

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Chad White's a complete player and very athletic........no doubt he'll be better than MT.

Can we please stop comparing Chad White to Michael Tveidt please?? Tveidt is also very athletic and a complete player, the comparison is unnecessary as both are very good players. But then again I'm probably being a Pierre homer again.

[FargoBison]

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Doesn't Tveidt high jump 6'8 or something like that? The guy is very athletic, in fact Saul said he is close to Mike Nelson in terms of defense(which is high praise considering Nelson is our best defender). Tveidt is also almost shooting 60% from the field, and the guy can score in so many different ways. I've been impressed by Tveidt ever since he stepped on the court against Florida where he had 12 points and 8 boards in his first regular season game.

I'm sure White is a good player, but I think some people need to remember the learning curve in DI basketball is very steep. Some of the expectations I have seen are quite high to say the least.

[mango4]

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Doesn't Tveidt high jump 6'8 or something like that? The guy is very athletic, in fact Saul said he is close to Mike Nelson in terms of defense(which is high praise considering Nelson is our best defender). Tveidt is also almost shooting 60% from the field, and the guy can score in so many different ways. I've been impressed by Tveidt ever since he stepped on the court against Florida where he had 12 points and 8 boards in his first regular season game.

I'm sure White is a good player, but I think some people need to remember the learning curve in DI basketball is very steep. Some of the expectations I have seen are quite high to say the least.

I believe Michael was a state high jump champion but I could be wrong

[Jacks#1Fan]

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I agree posters should stop making the comparisons between these two. We didn't get (or want at some point) Tveidt. I think there were some good reasons...and the coaching staff made its decisions right or wrong. It doesn't matter! And only time will tell whether Chad White performs at, above, or below the level that Tviedt does when they are at the same point in their college careers. Let's move on (I know I can not look at the thread, but I keep looking at it, hoping we will move on to other 2009-10 recruit news (Tviedt is no longer news, nor is White in this thread.) Let's move on...got any new 2009-10 recruit info, anybody?

[mango4]

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I know it's a ways away but I would suggest anyone in the Brookings area go to Volga Feb. 13 to see Madison take on Sioux Valley. As of right now, both teams are undefeated and could certainly be that way game Feb. 13. It would also be the last good chance to see the Madison boys in action without traveling to Madison.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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I'd like a complete breakdown of each recruit we currently have on the radar and how they compare to each recruit for both NDSU and USD, please. Actually, they don't have to be "complete" breakdowns. In fact, I'd prefer basic comparison principles such as "he sucks" or "he's not even half the player ___ is". Because, despite the fact that all compared athletes are/were deemed worthy to play D1 basketball by people paid to make such determinations, one of them has to obviously suck when in comparison of the other. Thank you.

[joeboo22]

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I'd like a complete breakdown of each recruit we currently have on the radar and how they compare to each recruit for both NDSU and USD, please. Actually, they don't have to be "complete" breakdowns. In fact, I'd prefer basic comparison principles such as "he sucks" or "he's not even half the player ___ is". Because, despite the fact that all compared athletes are/were deemed worthy to play D1 basketball by people paid to make such determinations, one of them has to obviously suck when in comparison of the other. Thank you.

Here is who we have as far as I know...

Class of 09-10
Chad White- The best player in the state, explosive off of the dribble, his shot is streaky, and could be improved a little bit, he is a universal player, runs the point a lot in high school will probably be more of a 2-3 in College.... could compare him to Kai, but isn't quite the rebounder and is a little bit better off of the dribble.... Probably the best compared to Cain or Grimsley of USD.... though he isn't really in there category and I'd say is a step better then both of them... Best compared to Tveidt of NDSU, but not as good as shooter but more explosive off of the dribble and a little bit quicker in general.

Tony Feigen- One of the best players in the state, hard to compare him to anybody, he is around 6-8 and has really beefed up in the past year, he is fundamentally sound on the block, (similar to Hansbrough when it comes to fundamentals) a great passer from the post can hit that 12-14 foot jumper.... Is really good on defense....

Brayden Carlson- 6-4/6-5 PG/SG, a little less known but I've talked to people who watched the schoolers this summer and said he was better the Felt (sp) that is going to NDSU... Is a big smart guard, probably the best guard in AA (not that there is much).... SDSU is taking a little bit of a gamble on him but I like what I've heard about him, Hes from Brookings wants to be a Jack pretty bad, is a basketball player, and has the body and basketball smarts to be a good guard for the Jacks..... again hard to compare him to anybody, maybe a Sargent on the team...

2011 recruit Zach Horstman from Winner

Really hard to judge the kid because he has little around him and Winner is a big disappointment in basketball every year, has done reasonably well for the schoolers..... I can't really judge him but I watched him play as an 8th grader and everybody around me was saying he is going to be something special someday......

[bigblue]

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Went to the Flandreau v. Madison game tonight. All I can is wow. Fiegen really impressed me tonight. His overall game is very good. Can play the post, and also step out and hit the three as well. He had two pretty nice dunks tonight. The best was on a 2 on 1 break, the guard threw it off the glass and Fiegen went up and threw it down. Now that folks is pretty impressive.
White on the other hand is going to be a absolute stud. Guy is 6'7 and can handle the rock. He didn't have a monster game, but he didn't really need to.
Overall very impressed with both guys. They will play next year. Both have been in the weight room and have put on quite a bit of muscle. Thats great to see that these two guys not only work hard on the court but also in weight room.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Here is who we have as far as I know...

Class of 09-10
Chad White- The best player in the state, explosive off of the dribble, his shot is streaky, and could be improved a little bit, he is a universal player, runs the point a lot in high school will probably be more of a 2-3 in College.... could compare him to Kai, but isn't quite the rebounder and is a little bit better off of the dribble.... Probably the best compared to Cain or Grimsley of USD.... though he isn't really in there category and I'd say is a step better then both of them... Best compared to Tveidt of NDSU, but not as good as shooter but more explosive off of the dribble and a little bit quicker in general.

Tony Feigen- One of the best players in the state, hard to compare him to anybody, he is around 6-8 and has really beefed up in the past year, he is fundamentally sound on the block, (similar to Hansbrough when it comes to fundamentals) a great passer from the post can hit that 12-14 foot jumper.... Is really good on defense....

Brayden Carlson- 6-4/6-5 PG/SG, a little less known but I've talked to people who watched the schoolers this summer and said he was better the Felt (sp) that is going to NDSU... Is a big smart guard, probably the best guard in AA (not that there is much).... SDSU is taking a little bit of a gamble on him but I like what I've heard about him, Hes from Brookings wants to be a Jack pretty bad, is a basketball player, and has the body and basketball smarts to be a good guard for the Jacks..... again hard to compare him to anybody, maybe a Sargent on the team...

2011 recruit Zach Horstman from Winner

Really hard to judge the kid because he has little around him and Winner is a big disappointment in basketball every year, has done reasonably well for the schoolers..... I can't really judge him but I watched him play as an 8th grader and everybody around me was saying he is going to be something special someday......

Billy likes to drink soda.

Miss Lippy's car is green.

[EQguy]

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I'd like a complete breakdown of each recruit we currently have on the radar and how they compare to each recruit for both NDSU and USD, please. Actually, they don't have to be "complete" breakdowns. In fact, I'd prefer basic comparison principles such as "he sucks" or "he's not even half the player ___ is". Because, despite the fact that all compared athletes are/were deemed worthy to play D1 basketball by people paid to make such determinations, one of them has to obviously suck when in comparison of the other. Thank you.

Holy Crap. That was amazing!

[filbert]

Re: 2009-10 Recruits

Return to the topic, everyone, or the thread will be locked.

[joeboo22]

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Billy likes to drink soda.

Miss Lippy's car is green.

huh? I try to answer his demands the best I could...

Here is the facts or my opinion in which I concur to be fact...

If Chad White wouldn't of torn his ACL and gone through the recruitment process he'd at least have a half of dozen MVC offers.... May even of had them with the torn ACL...

Feigen maybe not a lot of high mid major offers but would of at least generated a lot of hard looks...

[Nidaros]

Re: 2009-10 Recruits

Return to the topic, everyone, or the thread will be locked.

You have the keys, do it.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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huh? I try to answer his demands the best I could...

Here is the facts or my opinion in which I concur to be fact...

If Chad White wouldn't of torn his ACL and gone through the recruitment process he'd at least have a half of dozen MVC offers.... May even of had them with the torn ACL...

Feigen maybe not a lot of high mid major offers but would of at least generated a lot of hard looks...

I was being sarcastic in my post. I think that was the basis for most giving you deserved hard time. We all know White and Feigen are two of the best players in the State. We all know Chad tore his ACL. You could read 20 different threads on this site and get that same info. My post was trying to point out the futility and stupidity in comparing players with such scientific evidence such as "he sucks" or "I've watched him play and he's over-rated." Those are probably my two favorite talent evaluation methods. "Joe Krabbenhoft will never be any good because he sucks" or "I saw Tviedt play and he's way over-rated". Granted, those are usually evaluation methods generally reserved for high schoolers from opposing towns, but they also seem to find their way on to this site when a thread about next year's recruits is started. Thus, the 3+ pages of comparing White and Feigen to Tviedt for no apparent purpose other than to say one or the other "sucks".