CSUBakersfield GDT

[Kemo]

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Tyler's call last night indicated there was no contact on the foul call with half a second to go. As he watched the replay, he said it was very, very minimal at best.

This is the one call I will say something about. I have never seen or heard of a ref call a loose ball foul with .5 seconds left in the game. That is terrible officiating at any level. That is the definition of officials handing a team the game.

The rest of the game, however, is on us.

[jack power]

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Tyler's call last night indicated there was no contact on the foul call with half a second to go. As he watched the replay, he said it was very, very minimal at best.

Nobody wants to blame the refs, but who makes a call like that with half a second to go? Furthermore, if these refs are basically only reffing Bakersfield games, and the Roadrunners just happen to win at a much higher percentage than they normally do when these guys ref, it at least makes you wonder.

I disagree about when to make a call.If it was indeed a foul, you call it no matter how much time is on the clock.

[goon]

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I disagree about when to make a call.If it was indeed a foul, you call it no matter how much time is on the clock.

If its a foul its a foul, I am ok with that, but I question the merits that the ref thought it was a foul. How was this effort any different then the previous rebound attempts in the game that were not having fouls called during.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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Hey, the sun came up today!

You know what? It was an awful loss. No question.

At the end of the day, the team still controls its own destiny for the major goals for the season which are to be regular season champs of the Summit and win the Summit Tournament to go to the NCAA.

These guys have shown that they will respond after a bad loss. I expect nothing less. It's better that they had this off game against Bakersfield than Murray State, UNO, or in the Summit Tourney. Remember Nagy's mantra of staying hungry and humble. That shouldn't be a problem after last night.

SUPERBUNNY

[Nidaros]

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Hey, the sun came up today!


SUPERBUNNY

Not in Arlington, still very cloudy, but your points are well taken. Brian Carstens does not like us as well as the Sioux Falls people,

[SUPERBUNNY]

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Not in Arlington, still very cloudy, but your points are well taken. Brian Carstens does not like us as well as the Sioux Falls people,

Ha, I have to admit I was pretty pissed after the game too. Not about refs though. shouldn't have been a factor. We laid an egg, they played well, the refs helped, we lost.

I'm no less jacked up about the rest of the season.

SUPERBUNNY

[LakeJack]

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Ha, I have to admit I was pretty pissed after the game too. Not about refs though. shouldn't have been a factor. We laid an egg, they played well, the refs helped, we lost.

I'm no less jacked up about the rest of the season.

SUPERBUNNY

Ohhhhhh, I am going to disagree with you. Bakersfield did not play well. They shot 35.8% for the game, 27.3% from three point land, got out rebounded. They did shoot free throws well 75.8%.

We shot 50% for the game, 38.1% from three point land, and won the rebounding battle. That is the frustrating part, usually you win with that kind of set up. But we had too many turnovers, and we missed our free throws.


I will agree that we had our chances and we didn't play well enough to win. But the Runners didn't play well

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=330512934

[SUPERBUNNY]

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Ohhhhhh, I am going to disagree with you. Bakersfield did not play well. They shot 35.8% for the game, 27.3% from three point land, got out rebounded. They did shoot free throws well 75.8%.

We shot 50% for the game, 38.1% from three point land, and won the rebounding battle. That is the frustrating part usually you win with that kind of set up. But we had too many turnovers, and we missed our free throws.


I will agree that we had our chances and we didn't play well enough to win. But the Runners didn't play well

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=330512934

Fair enough. I haven't even seen the stats because I thought it may make me hurl. Just know on paper this shouldn't have been a game. They played well enough to beat a much better team. Don't care what the stats are. WE LOST.

SUPERBUNNY

[joeboo22]

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This is just one of those games where it wasn't meant to be. Couldn't put them away early when they should have, struggled badly at times in the second half. Got into way too much foul trouble. And ultimately got beat by a terrible call at the buzzer.

At the same time its just a game, and there are much better, bigger and more important things in life then losing to CSU-Bakersfield on the road in February.

[SturgisJeff]

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digging deeper into my conspiracy theory before I send it on to Jesse Ventura for investigation I found that two of the refs in last nights game have worked together for four of CSUB's games over the past two years. NJIT 19 to's 22 fouls. CSUB 13 to's 13 fouls. in the play by play NJIT was going on runs and turnovers and fouls were called allowing CSUB to catch up. CSUB won by one. Texas Pan Am 19 to's 15 fouls, CSUB 11 to's 15 fouls, game was close but UB pulled away. Pomona Pitzer 22 tos 19 fouls. CSUB 13 to's and 12 fouls. game not close UB won.
previously Eric Morales only refereed for the Univ of Hawaii. all three are independant no conference affiliation. apparantly under contract exclusively with CSUB

I will now drop it and write no more. but something smells quite fishy in Denmark.

[tbjack]

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Very interesting/fishy information posted about the crew that officiated this game. But we obviously didn't play well enough in a couple areas, as others have posted, to win the game.

-18 turnovers - Well.....We did have more steals than they did 6 to 5 but they only had 11 turnovers. FIVE of our turnovers offensive fouls(moving screens, charges). I cant find the exact statitistic but we also were whistled for at least 5 traveling calls that I can remember. So CSUB's friends in stripes contributed to well over half of our turnovers directly by blowing the whistle.

-"We didnt get enough stop"- Awfully hard to get stops when every time the ball doesnt go through the net a foul is called. CSUB shot an amazing 33 free throws. Give them credit for making 75% of them. We held them to 35% shooting which is well below Nagy's goal and well below a level where we will win every game. We shot 50%.

-Rebounding - Oh wait, we won that battle 39-35.

- An away from the ball foul with 0.5 seconds left. Tyler said there was very little contact on the play. Despite all the help to keep the Roadrunners in the game from the opening tip they handed them the game right here.

Everyone can have their own opinion about this game. We did the things we need to do to win games. I am going to blame the refs...

[91jack]

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I'll just start this off by saying that I didn't watch the game so I don't know exactly what happened.
I think Tyler is normally one of the most unbiased announcers that I've heard. I know coach does his fair share of yelling but that's what most coaches do. Last night when I was listening in on the radio I had to wonder about the officiating. I though coach was going to get a T a couple times and Tyler sounded like he was trying to sensor his opinions. It sounded like if SDSU drove hard to the basket, they would get called for a charge but it was a block on the other end of the court. They were a couple times when a SDSU player was bumped but instead of a foul, it was called a travel. That would take 6 or so of SDSU's TO's away. Either SDSU was really slow on both ends of the court or the consistency in the calls might have not been there.
SDSU did have a couple of good chances to win the game. It sounded like White could have ended the game before it even got to OT if he handled it cleanly. SDSU had a chance to hit a couple of FT's to win the game but they didn't do that either.
I wont even touch the call with less than a second left in the game. Most people say that they want to let the players decide the game but I guess unless you call them making FT"s, that didn't really happen in this case.

[Nidaros]

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digging deeper into my conspiracy theory before I send it on to Jesse Ventura for investigation I found that two of the refs in last nights game have worked together for four of CSUB's games over the past two years. NJIT 19 to's 22 fouls. CSUB 13 to's 13 fouls. in the play by play NJIT was going on runs and turnovers and fouls were called allowing CSUB to catch up. CSUB won by one. Texas Pan Am 19 to's 15 fouls, CSUB 11 to's 15 fouls, game was close but UB pulled away. Pomona Pitzer 22 tos 19 fouls. CSUB 13 to's and 12 fouls. game not close UB won.
previously Eric Morales only refereed for the Univ of Hawaii. all three are independant no conference affiliation. apparantly under contract exclusively with CSUB

I will now drop it and write no more. but something smells quite fishy in Denmark.

I got the feeling that they were just like Howard Connors and Eddy Livingston of decades ago, two rubes that SDSU used to hire to make certain there was a home court advantage. Back then we had UNI in the conference. I remember one game in particular, where the UNI coach was literally doing a war dance on the side line after many of their infamous calls that favored the home team. Thats why most conferences have commissioners who appoint the officals for all home games OOC and Conference. Seems like back then we had hard times winning in Cedar Falls, and in particular, St Cloud, although they were not in the conference at the time. I think the refereeing has gotten better over the years, but once in a while you run into a situation like last night. Our guys got hosed just enough to come up on the losing side.

[Grizzled_Jack]

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Was that Norm Stewart? Remember him almost having seizures in Brookings.

[Jacked_Up]

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As noted in a prior post, the Jacks had 18 turnovers, which is a lot. Five of the turnovers were on traveling calls. How often do you see that many traveling calls in a week of college games, let alone against one team in one game? Five more turnovers were on offensive violations like charging and screens. Take those away and the number of turnovers drops to eight, which is not bad. Two Jacks players fouled out, too. The refs might not have cost the Jacks the game, but the ticky-tacky way the game was called certainly influenced the outcome. The last-second rebounding foul against the Jacks is proof of that.