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  • #91
    Re: Oakland

    Originally posted by witness View Post
    He seems to not be as quick with his turf toe.
    He wasn't that quick with a healthy toe.
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    • #92
      Re: Oakland

      I thought it was odd in the post game that Kampe thought Tony couldn't hit 15 foot jumpers, he seemed stunned that he was hitting wide open jump shots. It sounded like they built their defensive strategy around that. From where I sit, he has been a good mid-range jump shooter, especially for a post. Just seemed odd to me.
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      • #93
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        It may have been a surprise that the SDSU coaches did something that Kampe did not anticipate especially since there was more attention paid to Tony second half. #21 was smaller and quicker than Petros and he was trying to stick with Tony and lean on him tighter. He was not strong enough to handle Tony. Also, it should not be a surprise that Tony is shooting more this year. The Oakland staff must have overlooked Nate's assist numbers. There is a strong chance Nate will have his name at the top of that category this season as well.
        Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan View Post
        I thought it was odd in the post game that Kampe thought Tony couldn't hit 15 foot jumpers, he seemed stunned that he was hitting wide open jump shots. It sounded like they built their defensive strategy around that. From where I sit, he has been a good mid-range jump shooter, especially for a post. Just seemed odd to me.
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        • #94
          Re: Oakland

          Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan View Post
          I thought it was odd in the post game that Kampe thought Tony couldn't hit 15 foot jumpers, he seemed stunned that he was hitting wide open jump shots. It sounded like they built their defensive strategy around that. From where I sit, he has been a good mid-range jump shooter, especially for a post. Just seemed odd to me.
          It was odd. While he probably doesn't shoot as many as he did last night, Fiegen is deadly, deadly with that 15-18 ft jumper.
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          • #95
            Re: Oakland

            Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan View Post
            I thought it was odd in the post game that Kampe thought Tony couldn't hit 15 foot jumpers, he seemed stunned that he was hitting wide open jump shots. It sounded like they built their defensive strategy around that. From where I sit, he has been a good mid-range jump shooter, especially for a post. Just seemed odd to me.
            Agree, one of the best mid-range jump shooters SDSU has seen since the inception of the 3-point line. Kampe didn't do his homework or watched too much of the USD game tape where Tony couldn't throw it in the ocean.
            Last edited by jackmd; 01-11-2013, 10:47 AM.
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            • #96
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              Originally posted by RowdyRabbit View Post
              It was odd. While he probably doesn't shoot as many as he did last night, Fiegen is deadly, deadly with that 15-18 ft jumper.
              I have noticed that too, and greatly appreciate Coach Nagy's acceptance of verbals from the two Madison guys when they were soph in hs. At the time I thought Nagy was taking a big chance, but he has more vision than some of his fans, like me. I might add White had a deadly 3 right when we needed it towards the end of the game.
              Last edited by Nidaros; 01-11-2013, 12:36 PM.

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              • #97
                Re: Oakland

                Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan View Post
                I thought it was odd in the post game that Kampe thought Tony couldn't hit 15 foot jumpers, he seemed stunned that he was hitting wide open jump shots. It sounded like they built their defensive strategy around that. From where I sit, he has been a good mid-range jump shooter, especially for a post. Just seemed odd to me.
                I'm guessing Kampe got fooled by the fact that Fiegen really has never made a large volume of mid-range jumpers in a game. Tony usually only shoots when he is wide open, and once he shows the opposition he can make one or two, opponents usually start to respect it.

                I'd bet that Tony has probably made around 70% of the 15-18 foot jumpers he's taken in his college career due to both his ability and shot selection.
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                • #98
                  Re: Oakland

                  Originally posted by Kemo View Post
                  I'm guessing Kampe got fooled by the fact that Fiegen really has never made a large volume of mid-range jumpers in a game. Tony usually only shoots when he is wide open, and once he shows the opposition he can make one or two, opponents usually start to respect it.

                  I'd bet that Tony has probably made around 70% of the 15-18 foot jumpers he's taken in his college career due to both his ability and shot selection.
                  I agree. He is probably the most consistant percent wise shooting from that range. That's why it was odd he bricked a few at usd.
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                  • #99
                    Re: Oakland

                    Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan View Post
                    I thought it was odd in the post game that Kampe thought Tony couldn't hit 15 foot jumpers, he seemed stunned that he was hitting wide open jump shots. It sounded like they built their defensive strategy around that. From where I sit, he has been a good mid-range jump shooter, especially for a post. Just seemed odd to me.
                    I disagree. We may have a better idea that he can hit those shots but he shot terribly in the USD game. I'm assuming he watched that tape. Out of any starter, he has the worst shot. That's not a knock on him either but more of a reflection of how good of a shooting team State can be.
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                    • Re: Oakland

                      Originally posted by SDSUAlum08 View Post
                      I disagree. We may have a better idea that he can hit those shots but he shot terribly in the USD game. I'm assuming he watched that tape. Out of any starter, he has the worst shot. That's not a knock on him either but more of a reflection of how good of a shooting team State can be.
                      Yes, he was 2-for-9 at USD. As we all know, this team typically lives and dies based on whether or not jumpers are falling. It would be nice to have a big post man that's good with his back to the basket to help on those nights when the mid/long range stuff is not falling. Having that guy is probably a big reason why NDSU has been so consistent.

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                      • Re: Oakland

                        Originally posted by SDSUAlum08 View Post
                        I disagree. We may have a better idea that he can hit those shots but he shot terribly in the USD game. I'm assuming he watched that tape. Out of any starter, he has the worst shot. That's not a knock on him either but more of a reflection of how good of a shooting team State can be.
                        I think worst shot might be the wrong way to describe it. His range is limited to about 18 feet but I'd put him up against any of the other starters from that range. Kampe had a game plan that included not letting Nate beat them by getting to the hoop. That meant leaving the screener open on the roll. Petros is a beast and defends the hoop well meaning that open jumpers would be there, Tony buried them and he'll do it again if Kampe employs the same strategy.
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                        • Re: Oakland

                          Oakland's strategy was to double Wolters on the high screen and take away the normal way that Nate gets loose and scores. The fully expected to have Fiegen get the ball where he did and took their chances on him shotting vs. Wolters. Tony made them pay. He played with some real intensity last night. Also, it shows how much of a team player Nate is. So many scorers (Bader for one) are going to throw up their shots no matter what. Nate took what the defense gave them and made his team better tonight by dishing the ball. Oakland changed their philosophy for the second after Fiegen put up 20+ in the first half. Nate responded by starting to score. Very mature ball out of both players.

                          I WILL TAKE A WIN OVER OAKLAND ANY TIME!!! They may be a little down now but come tournament time I expect them to be one of the teams to beat. Kampe is a great coach and has his guys ready to play. They have serious athletic ability and are tall. If we have to play them in SF I hope its in the finals.

                          Overall, a step forward for the team tonight. Need to continue that momentum!

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                          • Re: Oakland

                            Well, heck...I thought we played quite well last night. Not enough contributors in the first half, obviously, and we gave up too many second-chance points. But, for the most part, I thought we played a very consistent game. Nate learned early that his defender was very good and adjusted his ball-handling. White hit a huge three late. Huge. What can you say about the way Tony played in the first half? It was man-sized effort. He was able to get past and open against a much bigger defender. And he knocked down just about every open shot (or every shot) he took. Dykstra joined the party in the second half.

                            Love Kampe as a coach. Sat above him last night and just love the guy. They are likely going to shoot better at home, so we'll likely need another good defensive effort. And better rebounding. The O'Rena is a tough joint in which to get a win. Nate will likely play better for us. He took it easy on a fast-break layup last night...just to casual/slow, and he got it swatted. Gotta clean that up. Maybe it's because I was comparing it to what I saw in the first half of the USD game (still disgraceful), but I thought we looked solid last night against a good team.
                            Grumbling along and embracing my role. If I didn't care, I wouldn't care. Go Jacks!

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