NDSU

[jackrabbit1979]

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He didn't say that. He said "I don't have an answer"....about 6 times. At one point he did seem to put it on the players.

Understandable then. But that's not what was in the quote I posted.

[TeaJackrabbit]

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One good thing about tonight...I hope it's the last time we have to hear about playing vs. Michael Tviedt.

Would have it been great to have him on our team? No doubt yes.

But I'm so sick of the "undefeated against your home state"..."I bet it felt good to beat them, huh Mike"..."Mike, you must get up to play SDSU" crap.

I would understand him having an axe if we didn't offer a scholarship to him and passed him over as a senior. But we did offer...and he didn't accept it. I'm not quite sure why he would be bitter if he is...or maybe it's just a media thing. But thank goodness it's over.

The sad part is, we got AC instead of Tviedt. Two opposites. I will bite my tongue.

[TeaJackrabbit]

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Understandable then. But that's not what was in the quote I posted.

Yep...agree w/ you 100%...I'll let him explain his post. I can see where the confusion exists.

[mgbison]

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The reason why Wright does good against SDSU is because SDSU is less athletic than us and SDSU doesn't have any athletic big guys. Wright is too skinny to play down low against the rest of the conference, but sdsu doesn't have any big guys that can stop him.

The funny thing is NDSU and SDSU have the exact opposite problems. You guys have a stud pg (which we need) and we have young athletic post players (which you need).

[mango4]

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The sad part is, we got AC instead of Tviedt. Two opposites. I will bite my tongue.

As will I. I've said this before and I will say it again, several people in Pierre felt like Michael was learning towards SDSU before AC accepted the scholarship. I don't know how true this is, it's just what I have heard.

Please Nagy, do not, I repeat DO NOT, let Pierre sophomores Lane Severyn and Zach Hanson go to NDSU. If you are in a battle with NDSU for those two, you better win it.

[goon]

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who knew bunnies could lay eggs...

Besides the easter bunny?

[goon]

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So I stopped listening to the game and went to menards to do some late night friday shoping to get stuff for the weekend. It seemed like a better use of my time.

Nagy better start getting figuring it out. I thought it was ok with all the problems of the transition that its ok to not know some games that just get away. There has to be acountability from the coaches and players. Everyone struggled shooting, no one went for a rebound, just sad really. I was serious about pulling the starters and making them watch the bench play the last 15 minutes of the game. The starters had no business being out there. Carlson, Stephenson, Hemstra, Tivis, could have done just as much as our starters did.

Hopefully they have practice tomorrow and everyone is running sprints, coaches included. sprints, then make 10 ft then 10 3 pointers all with out missing, if you miss one you start over.

We should be ashamed of our selfs. I Hope we get to play IPFW in the tourny, If we loose to them so be it, but atleast we may get to play another day against them. I truely feel we have a better chance upsetting oakland in the tourny then upsetting NDSU if we get to place them again. I just hope to god that our women were not watching that game.

[RowdyRabbit]

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As will I. I've said this before and I will say it again, several people in Pierre felt like Michael was learning towards SDSU before AC accepted the scholarship. I don't know how true this is, it's just what I have heard.

Please Nagy, do not, I repeat DO NOT, let Pierre sophomores Lane Severyn and Zach Hanson go to NDSU. If you are in a battle with NDSU for those two, you better win it.

It'll be interesting to see how the Severyn and Hanson deal plays out.

I don't know anything about this sort of thing, but once a college team gets in the door at a high school is it difficult to get them out?

Do you suppose Tveidts success at NDSU will make Severyn and/or Hanson want to go there as well?

I guess each students/players situations are different and maybe where past players go doesn't make much of an impact on where future players go.

I would definately think the goal is to keep kids in state, AT State.

What about the HS coaches working relationship with college coaches?

Do you suppose a HS coach leans one way vs the other when teams come recruiting? If College A has a history of pulling scholly offers on a kids does the high school coach automatically go on the defensive and warn the kids currently being recruited by College A?

Or vice versa with Team B...if the Pierre HC and college B Coach have a good working relationship, and past recruits to Team B have had success, does that affect how the current recruits feel about possibly going to College B?

Maybe high school coaches don't speak to their kids about college choices...I don't know.

[mango4]

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It'll be interesting to see how the Severyn and Hanson deal plays out.

I don't know anything about this sort of thing, but once a college team gets in the door at a high school is it difficult to get them out?

Do you suppose Tveidts success at NDSU will make Severyn and/or Hanson want to go there as well?

I guess each students/players situations are different and maybe where past players go doesn't make much of an impact on where future players go.

I would definately think the goal is to keep kids in state, AT State.

What about the HS coaches working relationship with college coaches?

Do you suppose a HS coach leans one way vs the other when teams come recruiting? If College A has a history of pulling scholly offers on a kids does the high school coach automatically go on the defensive and warn the kids currently being recruited by College A?

Or vice versa with Team B...if the Pierre HC and college B Coach have a good working relationship, and past recruits to Team B have had success, does that affect how the current recruits feel about possibly going to College B?

Maybe high school coaches don't speak to their kids about college choices...I don't know.

I'm going to try to answer this as best as I can, I may be off on some things but I'm going to do my best.

For the most part, NDSU is in the door at Riggs. Tveidt started everything and then the track team came in and has done very well getting the top Pierre track athletes to Fargo. The NDSU presence is much bigger than when I wen to school there, that's for sure. For the most part, NDSU wasn't really thought of, it was State, USD, or BH and then Tveidt went to NDSU and it became an option.

I could see Tveidt's success at NDSU playing a part in Severyn and Hanson wanting to go NDSU but I could also see them want to forge their own path. That could go either way. If Hanson puts some muscle on, he may go some place bigger than SDSU. If Lane grows a little bit, he may get some pretty significant looks as well.

Becker is a very good coach, I don't know what his relationship is with NDSU or SDSU. I do know that SDSU has lost out on the two best recruits to come out of Pierre in a while in Tveidt and Sam Willard, who is at Pacific. I'm not saying Becker's relationship with SDSU is bad, I just don't really know what he thinks of the school.

I could see a coach becoming wary of a school due to the practice of offering a kid, and when the scholarship isn't accepted right away, they pull it back. Coaches are suppose to look after the best interests of their players. Not all do, but I have a feeling Becker does. If there was something negative with how SDSU handled either Tveidt's or Willard's recruiting, Hanson and Severyn will hear about it from Becker.

If coaches have a good relationship with a college, I could see them sort of nudging kids in that direction. You go with what is familiar to you and if the relationship with a college is good, that is becomes familiar to you. Like I said, I don't know what Becker's relationship with either NDSU or SDSU is. Pierre has only really had two DI athletes at his time in Pierre in Willard and Tveidt. But I don't think it's a good thing that neither chose SDSU, unfortunately.

Nagy has to win this battle for those two. I've seen both of them play enough this year that I know without a doubt both of them will be stars wherever they go. I sure hope it's State. Offering them when they were freshman will not hurt, but they need to stay on both of them. I've been trying to have a sit down interview with both of them but it hasn't worked out. I'm interested to see what their thoughts are on the whole recruiting process.

[SDSUAlum08]

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Too much complaining about the NDSU fans.

Too many excuses about the SDSU players.

Completely.

Unacceptable.

Performance.

Period.

Shoot 15 percent for a half? Sixth-graders can do that. Give up two runs of more at least 17-0? A combined 11 points and five rebounds from the seniors? (Do I feel bad they haven't beat NDSU in their careers? Those numbers make it tough to muster much sympathy.) Only 22 points in 20 minutes to start the game? That's just pathetic. PATHETIC! And I could go on. You have to wonder if they're beat before they even take the court against NDSU. Time to man up and get over that crap. Try and muster up a little pride and heart, for Christ's sake.

I agree with all of this, except it might even be too nice. I'm so disappointed in last night's game....

[SDSUAlum08]

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One good thing about tonight...I hope it's the last time we have to hear about playing vs. Michael Tviedt.

Would have it been great to have him on our team? No doubt yes.

But I'm so sick of the "undefeated against your home state"..."I bet it felt good to beat them, huh Mike"..."Mike, you must get up to play SDSU" crap.

I would understand him having an axe if we didn't offer a scholarship to him and passed him over as a senior. But we did offer...and he didn't accept it. I'm not quite sure why he would be bitter if he is...or maybe it's just a media thing. But thank goodness it's over.

There's a lot more to this story than you think and he has a good reason to be mad about it. Luckily, he's done now and SDSU won't see him again.

[SDSUAlum08]

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I could see a coach becoming wary of a school due to the practice of offering a kid, and when the scholarship isn't accepted right away, they pull it back.

If there was something negative with how SDSU handled either Tveidt's or Willard's recruiting, Hanson and Severyn will hear about it from Becker.

SDSU/Nagy told Tveidt the day of a very big high school basketball game that if he doesn't give him an answer he's going to pull his scholarship offer. I believe it was during the State basketball tournament. Not good recruiting IMO. Let the kid get the tournament over with and then let him know. It's 3 more days.

I agree that if Becker has any influence these two are going to hear Tveidt's recruiting issue with SDSU.

[Nidaros]

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SDSU/Nagy told Tveidt the day of a very big high school basketball game that if he doesn't give him an answer he's going to pull his scholarship offer. I believe it was during the State basketball tournament. Not good recruiting IMO. Let the kid get the tournament over with and then let him know. It's 3 more days. Should we believe this at face value?

I agree that if Becker has any influence these two are going to hear Tveidt's recruiting issue with SDSU.

I think this is bull crap. How do we know what the source of motivation it took to get Tveidt to Fargo. Some one mentioned he had a brother going to NDSU. Might have been the curriculum at NDSU.. Who knows, I don't. The coach had to make a choice at the time, and he went with Cordova, which did not pan out completely, but Cordova got an education, and so did Tveidt and that is what matters. This is not the NBA, but rather the Summit League. Geez they are just college kids.

[tjbison]

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Thanks, coach. And your career record is?

Truth hurt??

[Nidaros]

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Truth hurt??

Yeah it does. We got whupped last night. Enjoy rubbing the salt while you can. What comes around goes around.