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  • I wasnt able to watch the 2nd half as close since at the bar eith friends. The first half i recall 2 or 3 what looked like obvious holds that would have been sacks. Like it seemed obvious to me like i cheered since i assumed it would have been called. I was wrong.
    "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

    Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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    • Originally posted by jackdaniel View Post
      We were called multiple times for the same penalty, 3 false starts, two PI's and two holds, and two intentional groundings we should of adjusted/ learned that maybe the refs were looking hard at those things. 10 infractions to 8 for UNI. But doubling up and even tripling up on penalties is kind of troubling.JMO
      Stig said postgame that there was a chance Gronowski was out of the pocket on one grounding call.

      I still don't understand why a couple screens to Johnson or Davis (or even Kraft weren't called), as they could've limited grounding potential with quicker passes.

      I can excuse a false start or two on the road, but a false start on the center in three consecutive games is concerning

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      • Just watched the replay, and Gronowski definitely appeared to be inside tackle box on both grounding calls, so I think Stig's out a malt to one official.

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        • Originally posted by witness View Post
          Gronowski's 2 dumb intentional grounding plays, his int, leaving the pocket when he didn't need to, and missing throws in the second half is why the second half went the way it did
          This is what I was thinking. He just isn't playing as conifident as he did as a freshmen.

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          • Up until that qtr, he was having quite a 2nd half of a season, everyone has bad games, this was just a few bad plays, he'll be fine and lead the Jack's to Frisco again!

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            • Originally posted by tbcruiser View Post
              Up until that qtr, he was having quite a 2nd half of a season, everyone has bad games, this was just a few bad plays, he'll be fine and lead the Jack's to Frisco again!
              I guess my comment sounds like I am really down on him. He is still a really good QB but he is not at the conference MVP class where he was before his injury.

              Western Illinois- 17-33, 188 yards and 1-TD with 0- INT's
              USD- 12-20, 136 yards with 1-TD and 1-INT
              NDSU- 16-21, 152 yards without a TD or an INT
              UND- 15-20, 197 yards with 3-TD's and 0-INT's
              Indiania State- 22-28, 233 yards with 3-TD's and 0-INT's
              UNI- 21-34, 263 yards, 1-TD and 1-INT

              He did not play bad enough to lose any games for SDSU.
              Against Missouri State, Indiania State and UND; he put up great numbers that will win you games.
              In the games against Western Illinois, USD, NDSU and UNI; he put up numbers that will not lose the game but they will not win the game either.

              I think he can lead this team to Frisco but he might need a healthy Davis and the defense to keep playing solid and creating TO's.

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              • Originally posted by tbcruiser View Post
                Up until that qtr, he was having quite a 2nd half of a season, everyone has bad games, this was just a few bad plays, he'll be fine and lead the Jack's to Frisco again!
                I like this "take," and not just because it segues into a couple rants and raves, but nevertheless...

                Rave: The INTs by the safeties were athletic plays that helped ensure the Jacks escaped with a victory.

                Rave: Of course, I always enjoy Jacks victories, but I especially relish victories against FCS teams littered with FBS transfers, and UNI has a handful of FBS transfers who are starters at the skill positions. I'm assuming Day will again be their QB, and I look forward to hopefully helping to exorcise the UNI Hobo Day demon next Oct. when he and UNI visit Brookings.

                Rant: The Jacks' pass defense baffled me. I can only hope those coverages were utilized with the assumption that UNI's WR speed, especially on 'dome's turf, and Day's passing prowess merited "loose" coverage. I think a couple of Schnee's receptions between the hashes also illustrated just how effectively Bock patrols that zone

                Random question -- did either of the Kuslers play a down on defense?

                I figured we might see one or both get a few snaps, but I think they only played on special teams.
                Last edited by jakejc795; 11-06-2022, 10:18 AM.

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                • Originally posted by 91jack View Post

                  I guess my comment sounds like I am really down on him. He is still a really good QB but he is not at the conference MVP class where he was before his injury.

                  Western Illinois- 17-33, 188 yards and 1-TD with 0- INT's
                  USD- 12-20, 136 yards with 1-TD and 1-INT
                  NDSU- 16-21, 152 yards without a TD or an INT
                  UND- 15-20, 197 yards with 3-TD's and 0-INT's
                  Indiania State- 22-28, 233 yards with 3-TD's and 0-INT's
                  UNI- 21-34, 263 yards, 1-TD and 1-INT

                  He did not play bad enough to lose any games for SDSU.
                  Against Missouri State, Indiania State and UND; he put up great numbers that will win you games.
                  In the games against Western Illinois, USD, NDSU and UNI; he put up numbers that will not lose the game but they will not win the game either.

                  I think he can lead this team to Frisco but he might need a healthy Davis and the defense to keep playing solid and creating TO's.
                  Assuming Day is viewed as the MVFC's premier QB, and probably rightfully so, it bears mentioning that MVFC stats reveal Gronowski has 35 fewer attempts than Day put only four fewer TDS and two fewer INTs.

                  He also has 15 fewer attempts than Shelley, 41 fewer attempts than Baker, and 18 fewer attempts than Schuster (despite each playing in only 9 games).

                  Do I believe the Jacks airing it out would get Gronowski nearly as many yards as Day? Probably not, and the Jacks have a considerably different offensive scheme than the Panthers, partially because they have a RB duo as adept as Davis and Johnson.

                  I also don't necessarily believe Day "lost the Panthers the game" by tossing two INTs. The Jacks made great plays on those deflected passes, but one reason the Panthers had to pass is that their RBs were generally not as effective as the Jacks'

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                  • This board has a guideline discouraging personal attacks on a poster. Criticizing a post is okay. It’s a good guideline.

                    So a poster can write some terrible stuff about an athlete and people can disagree with the post but we should not add the final “and you’re an idiot for thinking that way” or words having a similar intent.

                    i know- the athletes are D1 athletes with most having significant financial assistance because they play a sport and therefore they can take some criticism. Yada yada yada.

                    But when I read a couple of posters’ thoughts on a tremendous athlete and, by all accounts, a good teammate and leader, and I disagree with the post, guess what I’m thinking about the poster but not writing.

                    (And now I’m wondering how many — not whether —readers of this post just added ‘JackJD is an idiot.’)

                    Gronowski is da man! And empirical evidence proves it.

                    A nine-game win streak in the MoValley. It’s another great day to be a Jackrabbit.

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                    • Originally posted by JackJD View Post
                      This board has a guideline discouraging personal attacks on a poster. Criticizing a post is okay. It’s a good guideline.

                      So a poster can write some terrible stuff about an athlete and people can disagree with the post but we should not add the final “and you’re an idiot for thinking that way” or words having a similar intent.

                      i know- the athletes are D1 athletes with most having significant financial assistance because they play a sport and therefore they can take some criticism. Yada yada yada.

                      But when I read a couple of posters thoughts on a tremendous athlete and, by all accounts, a good teammate and leader, and I disagree with the post, guess what I’m also thinking but not writing.

                      (And now I’m wondering how many — not whether —readers of this post just added ‘JackJD is an idiot.’)

                      Gronowski is da man! And empirical evidence proves it.

                      It’s another great day to be a Jackrabbit.
                      I apologize. I tried to toe a line without attacking the person whose post I deemed egregious directly. I've edited my post

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                      • Originally posted by jakejc795 View Post

                        Assuming Day is viewed as the MVFC's premier QB, and probably rightfully so, it bears mentioning that MVFC stats reveal Gronowski has 35 fewer attempts than Day put only four fewer TDS and two fewer INTs.

                        He also has 15 fewer attempts than Shelley, 41 fewer attempts than Baker, and 18 fewer attempts than Schuster (despite each playing in only 9 games).

                        Do I believe the Jacks airing it out would get Gronowski nearly as many yards as Day? Probably not, and the Jacks have a considerably different offensive scheme than the Panthers, partially because they have a RB duo as adept as Davis and Johnson.

                        I also don't necessarily believe Day "lost the Panthers the game" by tossing two INTs. The Jacks made great plays on those deflected passes, but one reason the Panthers had to pass is that their RBs were generally not as effective as the Jacks'
                        The point that SDSU is more of a running team (than their opponents most/every week) and the other teams have to pass against SDSU is a good point. That is way I think Mark does not have to win games for SDSU. He is a top teir QB but he does not have to put up great numbers for SDSU to win.

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                        • Originally posted by 91jack View Post

                          The point that SDSU is more of a running team (than their opponents most/every week) and the other teams have to pass against SDSU is a good point. That is way I think Mark does not have to win games for SDSU. He is a top teir QB but he does not have to put up great numbers for SDSU to win.
                          This could bring up an interesting hypothetical -- is Kraft being mentioned as a potential 1st or 2nd-rd pick without Oladokun being QB last season?

                          Oladokun's numbers were similar to what Day's will probably end up being (including playoffs). That's not to say Gronowski has stifled Kraft. It's just that he and Oladokun have different skillsets.

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                          • Jakejc795- my post was not directed at you. I was just thinking aloud that there are times I’d love to ignore the guideline and tell a poster what I’m really thinking when they criticize my quarterback.

                            Now, this is a hilarious Twitter observation by Zach Borg, sports guy with DakotaNewsNow. Video from Jack Lido.

                            https://twitter.com/iceborg/status/1...

                            LMAO @ wee little panther men

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                            • Originally posted by tbcruiser View Post
                              Up until that qtr, he was having quite a 2nd half of a season, everyone has bad games, this was just a few bad plays, he'll be fine and lead the Jack's to Frisco again!
                              I was disappointed in the pass protection, especially as the game went on. Part of the reason for a couple of those bad decisions and throws was because of the pass rush.

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                              • Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post

                                I was disappointed in the pass protection, especially as the game went on. Part of the reason for a couple of those bad decisions and throws was because of the pass rush.
                                I'll "broken record" this -- were you also disappointed they didn't dial up at least a couple screen passes in the face of that pass rush?

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