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  • bigticket1
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    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post

    Losing Woods and Voorhees leaves a pretty big hole at RB. Angel Johnson would certainly be in the top guys as of now if he came back. DL looks to have a pretty solid group. OL is a little thin. Would be nice to get Hagen and Hicks back. That would make that group pretty solid.

    My main area for concern is secondary, especially CB.
    Unfortunately, Hagen and Hicks were only here for one season, so they have fewer connections to Brookings. Beerntsen supposedly might play one more year and it would be big to get him back. It's players like him, Baloun, Reeder and Francl that would disappoint me the most. Recruited by Stig and played for him for a couple of seasons.

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  • MontanaRabbit
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    Originally posted by jbjack View Post
    https://jackrabbitillustrated.com/whos-in-and-whos-out/

    JI seems very connected. I'm a little confused by the "out" vs. "tbd" lists. There are portal guys on the "out" list who haven't committed (although a bunch are reported to be joining Jimmy & Co) and and portal guys on the "tbd" list. Are they certain that the ship has sailed on the "out" list for some reason? For instance, Kobe Clayborne is in the portal, tweeting offers from all the G6 schools he's getting offers from, but is on the "tbd" list. 25 recruit Isaiah Hung is "out" (going to Pullman?). Hopefully Tucker Large and Angel Johnson on "tbd" means there's a chance they'll be back.
    Losing Woods and Voorhees leaves a pretty big hole at RB. Angel Johnson would certainly be in the top guys as of now if he came back. DL looks to have a pretty solid group. OL is a little thin. Would be nice to get Hagen and Hicks back. That would make that group pretty solid.

    My main area for concern is secondary, especially CB.

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  • jbjack
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    https://jackrabbitillustrated.com/whos-in-and-whos-out/

    JI seems very connected. I'm a little confused by the "out" vs. "tbd" lists. There are portal guys on the "out" list who haven't committed (although a bunch are reported to be joining Jimmy & Co) and and portal guys on the "tbd" list. Are they certain that the ship has sailed on the "out" list for some reason? For instance, Kobe Clayborne is in the portal, tweeting offers from all the G6 schools he's getting offers from, but is on the "tbd" list. 25 recruit Isaiah Hung is "out" (going to Pullman?). Hopefully Tucker Large and Angel Johnson on "tbd" means there's a chance they'll be back.

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  • Jackbacker123
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    I like how the list of players returning is growing but I sure would like to see more DTs and OL on there. I took years to build those positions up and I would hate to lose that in 1 year.

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  • bigticket1
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    And Alpers and O'Groske are staying !

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  • EngJack
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    Originally posted by jbjack View Post
    Reis Kirschenmann isn't very active on twitter but retweeted Van Tol's tweet about returning. Hopefully a promising sign.
    Reis just tweeted the same as Chase.
    https://x.com/ReisKirschenman/status...58516363211228

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  • jbjack
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    Reis Kirschenmann isn't very active on twitter but retweeted Van Tol's tweet about returning. Hopefully a promising sign.

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  • jacksfan29
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    Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post

    I have a feeling that the staff is going to make it very hard for those players to get out of Pullman without committing.
    Mora at Connecticut called out Roger's staff for tampering on Twitter/X, using a quote from a player of his. Not a good look for a new coaching staff, not a good look at all.

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  • jbjack
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    Originally posted by mnjackrbt View Post

    Oklahoma State Coach took a reduced salary for 2025 but what he reduced it by, is all going to players. I haven't seen any report on if that is $100,000 or $5 million or what.

    I believe I read somewhere that the about $1.2 million difference between Dickert's $2.7 million salary in 2024 and Jimmy's $1.5 million salary in 2025 is going to WSU players. However I can't find that anywhere now, but I am pretty sure I read that somewhere in an article or X.
    I find it hard to believe that that's the case in Pullman. I haven't seen that anywhere and there are articles out there about Wazzu's milque toast NIL. I think the contract value is/was strictly a function of Wazzu's new status as an FBS backwater, no media rights agreement yet in place, and increased costs brought about by new roster "limits" and scholarship costs. Hell, if Wazzu actually funds an additional 20 scholarships to get to 105, it will cost the program in tuition alone about $700,000. Add in the cost to feed, house, etc., nearly all of the savings in the coaching contract will go to the players, but not as walking around money but instead, operating costs.

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  • jbjack
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    According to Bison stooge McFeely and JSD stooge Elsen, the following players in the portal are now listed as signed:

    Carsten Reynolds, Jack Stevens, Kirby Vorhees, Fernando Lecuona, Melvin Ridley, Max Woods, Anthony Palano, Max Baloun, Colby Humphrey, Cale Reeder, Caleb Francl, Matthew Durrance, Dawson Rudd.

    There was a brief discussion on here about Francl and whether he would play football again. He was interviewed by his hometown newspaper and the tone of his interview made it sound as though he may not play again. In hindsight, the tone was really wouldn't play again for SDSU. I believe the interview was pre-Christmas and the conspiracy theorist in me wonders if Jimmy and certain players knew already then that Jimmy was leaving or at least a good possibility that he'd be leaving.

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  • mnjackrbt
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    Originally posted by jbjack View Post
    Wazzu pay once revenue sharing kicks in? Maybe 1/2 of the $1.5 million Jimmy is getting?
    Oklahoma State Coach took a reduced salary for 2025 but what he reduced it by, is all going to players. I haven't seen any report on if that is $100,000 or $5 million or what.

    I believe I read somewhere that the about $1.2 million difference between Dickert's $2.7 million salary in 2024 and Jimmy's $1.5 million salary in 2025 is going to WSU players. However I can't find that anywhere now, but I am pretty sure I read that somewhere in an article or X.

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  • bigticket1
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    Originally posted by jbjack View Post
    Supposedly 22 recruits on campus in Pullman this weekend. Classes start at WSU on Monday. You have to assume that a lot of these guys are SDSU guys. As of right now, 42 guys are returning or, in the case of '25 recruits, recommitted to SDSU. While there are 10 days until classes start in Brookings, a long time in college football transfer portal world, the assumption is that there won't be a full roster for spring ball.
    I have a feeling that the staff is going to make it very hard for those players to get out of Pullman without committing.

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  • jbjack
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    Originally posted by salemjack View Post

    100% the truth!

    Jimmy did the right thing taking all the coaches.

    Players…. Not so much….
    Agreed. I could see Jimmy poaching SDSU's roster if he were carpet bagging job hopper like Otz was in basketball. But for a career guy, both player and coach, that preached against just this kind of stuff, it's disgusting.

    I have half a mind to send a check to the athletic department for a $1,000.00 with instructions that it can be accepted by SDSU only if a plaque is placed above a toilet on the east side of DJD that reads: "Jimmy Rogers Integrity Memorial Crapper."

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  • jbjack
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    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post

    There is some truth to that right? The coordinators and position coaches are really vulnerable during a coaching change.
    I dropped that in the wrong thread. Oh well. Yes, definitely truth to that.

    The other missing piece in all this: I'll say again I never thought Jimmy would be Stig II and spend his life at SDSU. I expect all coaches to be ambitious and wanting to coach at the highest level, both for the intrinsic reward of accomplishment as extrinsic in compensation. In the new revenue sharing model about to drop, a forward looking coach could be looking at the likelihood of getting a big pay day. We've already seen that for Jimmy, he was the bargain candidate after Vigen balked at what Wazzu offered. Times are different for G6 schools and when they have to start sharing revenue with players, the coaching salaries are going to contract even more. Unless you're Klieman and your former AD gets a P4 gig, coaches like Jimmy are going to have to climb the ladder rung by rung and that means taking one of the less desirable FBS jobs. What does a job like Wazzu pay once revenue sharing kicks in? Maybe 1/2 of the $1.5 million Jimmy is getting?

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  • salemjack
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    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post

    There is some truth to that right? The coordinators and position coaches are really vulnerable during a coaching change.
    100% the truth!

    Jimmy did the right thing taking all the coaches.

    Players…. Not so much….

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