Playoffs 2016: Nova

[JackJD]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

That's quite the statement considering we just got shellacked 36-10 by the Bison in a game that had everything on the line.

I was there. I also watched the October game the Jacks won.

[TK22867]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

We are not on the same level as the Bison -- yet. But we've once again closed some of the gap.

That's quite the statement considering we just got shellacked 36-10 by the Bison in a game that had everything on the line.

[joeboo22]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

This whole situation is odd.

If it was NCAA or legal (authorities), then I'd guess SDSU would have their hands tied.

If its an internal testing (which I'd question why you'd have them anyways, and why you'd be testing anyone in the playoffs) then its internal punishment.

As a coach, my rule is I have control over what happens in my presence (practice/game/team travel/etc.).... And I can enlist suspensions for that, or chose not too.

If its something outside (legal, school, etc.) Then I believe in my hands being tied, and the punishments being uniform.

If there is evidence that the coaching staff/administration tried to cover something outside like that up, then I'd have concerns.

If its the latter, I believe that is an internal decision.

my 2 cents on the issue

[Nidaros]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

So if there is talk of "allowing" the players to play, these must have been normal in-house testing ? Because if they were NCAA tests done after the Villanova game, the school wouldn't have any control over allowing them to play.

Who really knows? Only those who have a need to know. Since this information is personal, and affects individuals, it should be treated like classified information in the Defense Department. If you don't meet the need to know criteria, you will never know. That is perfectly okay with me.

[bigticket1]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

So if there is talk of "allowing" the players to play, these must have been normal in-house testing ? Because if they were NCAA tests done after the Villanova game, the school wouldn't have any control over allowing them to play.

[WestSideRabbit]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

Not just talking on this forum but across the SDSU community.

[jakejc795]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

If this was a lie/hoax whoever started it and helped spread it should be ashamed. Three young men had their names smeared all over.

If the rumors are true, I'm ashamed of Stig and Sell for allowing the players to play.

My guess... we will never know the truth. Even our "reliable sources" are sometimes full of ****.

They'd probably say that damage to individual players was limited due to refraining from specifying the players (at least I never saw players' names mentioned). Seems like current situation is more damaging to program, coaching staff, and possibly AD, due to factors like those you note in your second statement above, and that's equally unfortunate.

[WestSideRabbit]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

If this was a lie/hoax whoever started it and helped spread it should be ashamed. Three young men had their names smeared all over.

If the rumors are true, I'm ashamed of Stig and Sell for allowing the players to play.

My guess... we will never know the truth. Even our "reliable sources" are sometimes full of ****.

[jakejc795]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

I haven't looked at the Next Step thread lately (and am just going out now to use the snowblower so I won't be looking at it).

I think we're going to miss some seniors big time but in watching this year's underclassmen mature and improve through the year, and seeing the overall progress in the last several years --really, the D1 era, I remain very optimistic.

I'm fairly optimistic too. Speaking of DL, interested in seeing how Chase Kern will do next year. He showed promise a couple seasons ago

[Nidaros]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

Thanks Filbert. Everyone can be angry at me. I don't care, but I never would intentionally post a false rumor.

People need to relax. This stuff will happen occasionally.

Feeling good today, no anger here towards anyone. I am too lazy to look back at what you posted. I do enjoy your contributions to this board, and we might all be chasing a very, very big red herring one large enough to feed half of Norway.

[JackJD]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

You deleted other posts concerning this rumor and you should have done the same with JackMD's. It's irrelevant if you or him think his his sources are reliable or not, give a specific source ....a name.

Follow your own rules.

Just so you have your facts straight: ALL posts that were temporarily removed (the removal action is noted in post 378 in this thread) were restored (the restoration or undeletion was noted in post 381 in this thread). The posts that were first deleted and then undeleted were unavailable for about one hour, 15 minutes. JackMD posted after ALL of the deleted posts had been restored.

[Theee Catrabbit]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

Once again, it was stupid to bring that information to the Forum, whether someone believes the sources reliable or not. Because clearly it was much ado about nothing, except on our board which spreads to other boards and somehow we've generated our own controversy where there was none. I for one would prefer to keep the "fake news" off of this site. Give your own insight and opinion I'm all for that. "I heard from a guy, who heard from a guy...." keep it to yourself, nothing good comes out of it except this bull**** being spewed right now.

[filbert]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

You deleted other posts concerning this rumor and you should have done the same with JackMD's. It's irrelevant if you or him think his his sources are reliable or not, give a specific source ....a name.

Follow your own rules.

You are not a moderator of this board. If you were, you would discover that it's not as easy or as clear-cut as you seem to think it is. You might also profit by actually understanding the rule you're trying to apply.

I made a decision that this particular case 1) did not fall squarely into the players-leaving-rumor rule we have established, and 2) in any event that the situation was nowhere near as corrosive as unsourced player-leaving rumors. Additionally, no specific player was named. I would rather not be put in the position of deciding the veracity of every damn-fool-thing any poster might decide to post, thank you very much. There isn't always a bright shiny line to judge things by.

I support my moderators' decisions unless I see overwhelming and obvious evidence that they have erred. I do not see such evidence in this case. In fact, we are in close agreement with how this has been handled.

If you want to be angry at someone, the buck stops with me right here.

[jack power]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

Sure I remember what I wrote a few years back. That's bothered you more than once. Our progress continues in the right direction. New attendance record; added another year of playoffs, advancing to another round for the first time. What's not to like?

I know who JackMD's sources are and they are reliable. Go back and read my post: we don't know whether those sources have good information. Maybe they do. I haven't talked to them and don't intend to talk to them. You say that my statement of opinion that JackMD's sources are reliable is the same as attesting to the validity of what was said? Really? I didn't talk to them on the topic.

I may push back when I see NDSU fans come in here and throw a stink bomb for no reason other than to cause a little trouble. That's trolling. It's not surprising that some troll shots were taken in the game thread too. No surprise based on our performance yesterday. Play like we did and somebody is going to do a little trolling, a little rubbing it in.

i was at the game and watched most of it again last night. We are not on the same level as the Bison -- yet. But we've once again closed some of the gap. I certainly recognize people won't share my opinions and I won't agree with everyone else's opinion.

You deleted other posts concerning this rumor and you should have done the same with JackMD's. It's irrelevant if you or him think his his sources are reliable or not, give a specific source ....a name.

Follow your own rules.

[JackJD]

Re: Playoffs 2016: Nova

I haven't looked at the Next Step thread lately (and am just going out now to use the snowblower so I won't be looking at it).

I think we're going to miss some seniors big time but in watching this year's underclassmen mature and improve through the year, and seeing the overall progress in the last several years --really, the D1 era, I remain very optimistic.