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  • #76
    Re: Grass v Turf

    Originally posted by KUlawJack View Post
    Just curious, what types of events are you talking about hosting? There is no way do we play football and soccer on the same field either, its just not going to happen.
    Not 100% sure, high school bowl games, youth football games, soccer games, track, outdoor concerts, band competition, practices intramurals, club sport national events, circus. I watched plenty of games with soccer/ lacrosse/ field hockey lines and they do not affect the game at all. I guess I am a believer in if the facility is quality and I am sure it will be people will inquire about using it if it were to be available. I am not apposed to the additional lines that others sports may add. It seems similar to the Events Center concept. They are events wanting and willing to come if you have the venue to host them.
    Last edited by GoJacks; 08-12-2011, 02:09 PM.
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    • #77
      Re: Grass v Turf

      Originally posted by TK22867 View Post
      Now if the Soldier Field sod gurus whose sole job in life is to get that field ready for play in tip-top condition can't get it done
      They're not 'gurus'. If you can't provide a playable surface in AUGUST for the FIRST EVENT, you're collectively incompetent. It's that simple.

      Lambeau uses hot water pipes and some artificial turf 'plugs' with its sod. SDSU would probably have to do something like that if they're playing into December. I think they can make the sod work through November with a bit more 'care & feeding'.

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      • #78
        Re: Grass v Turf

        Originally posted by SoDakJack View Post
        Perhaps the research has shown that developing a sod that can with-stand college athletes, in cleats, running on it for 2-3 hours every Saturday during the fall and winter isn't possible.
        So it wasn't "possible" the first 70 years of football before synthetics? Grass and mud are not anathema to the gridiron. Turf is not panacea, and unless you want to start a cycle of fund-raising replacements every decade or so you should think long and hard before going that way.

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        • #79
          Re: Grass v Turf

          Maybe this guy can help us out.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUkTLvdEcQI

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpL6Y...eature=related
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          • #80
            Re: Grass v Turf

            Originally posted by GoJacks View Post
            Not 100% sure, high school bowl games, youth football games, soccer games, track, outdoor concerts, band competition, practices intramurals, club sport national events, circus. I watched plenty of games with soccer/ lacrosse/ field hockey lines and they do not affect the game at all. I guess I am a believer in if the facility is quality and I am sure it will be people will inquire about using it if it were to be available. I am not apposed to the additional lines that others sports may add. It seems similar to the Events Center concept. They are events wanting and willing to come if you have the venue to host them.
            In the words of Uncle Eddie, "you serious Clark?" You play football on a football field. I love soccer, but no f-ing way should it ever be played at CAS. Nor should any of that other crap happen there. Track? A track around the stadium is high school. Concerts I'd be okay with but all that other stuff, no way.
            "All I know is what I read on the message boards."
            "Oh, well, there's your problem, then."

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            • #81
              Re: Grass v Turf

              http://www.fieldturf.com/artificial-turf-maintenance/
              here ya go. right from field turf.

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              • #82
                Re: Grass v Turf

                http://www.snc.edu/athletics/athleti...lex.html#about
                here's a d3 school with field turf. this is just so you can see what it looks like, nothing more.

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                • #83
                  Re: Grass v Turf

                  Originally posted by zooropa View Post
                  They're not 'gurus'. If you can't provide a playable surface in AUGUST for the FIRST EVENT, you're collectively incompetent. It's that simple.

                  Lambeau uses hot water pipes and some artificial turf 'plugs' with its sod. SDSU would probably have to do something like that if they're playing into December. I think they can make the sod work through November with a bit more 'care & feeding'.
                  the pipes buried under lambeau are actually filled with antifreeze not water. the pipes would break if they had water in them and they froze.

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                  • #84
                    Re: Grass v Turf

                    Originally posted by KI DRIVER View Post
                    They forgot the part about having to wipe the used tires off your cleats between plays.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Grass v Turf

                      Originally posted by KI DRIVER View Post
                      Gee, that looks a *lot* easier than maintaining a grass field...

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                      • #86
                        Re: Grass v Turf

                        Originally posted by KUlawJack View Post
                        In the words of Uncle Eddie, "you serious Clark?" You play football on a football field. I love soccer, but no f-ing way should it ever be played at CAS. Nor should any of that other crap happen there. Track? A track around the stadium is high school. Concerts I'd be okay with but all that other stuff, no way.
                        Man, we need a bowing emotion. A track or soccer lines on a field SCREAM D3/NAIA/High School.
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                        • #87
                          Re: Grass v Turf

                          I know it's 2011 but I hope football on grass doesn't become extinct.

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                          • #88
                            Re: Grass v Turf

                            Originally posted by thumper_76 View Post
                            Man, we need a bowing emotion. A track or soccer lines on a field SCREAM D3/NAIA/High School.
                            So does that mean in your opinion that the University of Kansas, Duke University and the University of Washington should stop playing FBS football? All three universities have track around their stadiums.

                            Also the current home of the FCS championship game Pizza Hut Park in Frisco, TX is a professional soccer stadium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_Hut_Park . The former home of the FCE championship game at UT Chattanooga plays football and soccer in their stadium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finley_Stadium.

                            I would say half of the FCS stadiums are multipurpose stadiums including the UC Davis, University of Delaware, Drake University and Youngstown State University http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tball_stadiums.
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                            • #89
                              Re: Grass v Turf

                              Grass field with proper drainage and no track around the field. A track puts fans farther away from the action.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Grass v Turf

                                FYI - Univ. of Wash. Husky stadium is being rebuilt to remove the track. $250M total. You can see details at
                                huskystadium.com


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