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  • #61
    Re: New threads

    Originally posted by goon View Post
    Use anything to back up your point, your opinion does not count for much. I know they will never go back to leather helmets, but you started talking about safety being a concern, so I showed that helmets can be a direct link to increase in injuries, now back up your point of view. Thats right, you can't.
    You didn't show ****! You used your own incredibly flawed logic! I posted a link that shows how helmets are designed to REDUCE CONCUSSIONS!
    Originally posted by JackFan96
    Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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    • #62
      Re: New threads

      Originally posted by RabbitObserver View Post
      Save yourself and don't get sucked in like I did.

      Maybe parents should tell their kids to start wearing leather bike helmets???
      bike helmets, are designed with actual break points with standards for protection, one and done type, use. They are prove to reduce injuries, unlike football helmets which increase potential injuries with hardly any safety standards to them.
      "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

      Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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      • #63
        Re: New threads

        Originally posted by goon View Post
        Use anything to back up your point, your opinion does not count for much. I know they will never go back to leather helmets, but you started talking about safety being a concern, so I showed that helmets can be a direct link to increase in injuries, now back up your point of view. Thats right, you can't.
        I don't think you can make the argument that helmets are a direct link to an increase in head injuries. The increase in head injuries may be due to the fact more and more head injuries are now being reported.

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        • #64
          Re: New threads

          Originally posted by UWMandSDSU View Post
          I don't think you can make the argument that helmets are a direct link to an increase in head injuries. The increase in head injuries may be due to the fact more and more head injuries are now being reported.
          And the fact that players are bigger and faster and stronger. And more people are playing. I don't know why the NFL doesn't just get rid of helmets. It'd be so much safer!

          Goon, find one person that agrees with you. ONE article on the internet. Anything besides your ****ed up logic.
          Originally posted by JackFan96
          Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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          • #65
            Re: New threads

            http://www.healthymagination.com/blo...n%20Prevention



            "Since football is the riskiest sport for concussions, a growing number of schools and colleges now equip athletes with innovative new helmets designed to absorb shock. Some have inflatable pads that act like the airbag in a car. One model has on-board electronics that records any head impact, allowing athletes to upload and evaluate injuries on their home computer. The software also alerts users if a potentially harmful impact is detected. A University of Pittsburgh study of more than 2,000 high school football players found that the Riddell Revolution helmet cuts concussion risk by 31 percent, compared to standard football helmets.


            Helmets can also make a wide range of other sports safer, including biking, rock climbing, and skateboarding or rollerblading, adds Dr. Kornel. “And it’s not just kids who benefit—a lot of adults don’t think they’re going to lose control and fall. But the head is the heaviest part of the body, so if you do take a tumble, it’s likely to hit the ground first, giving you anything from a goose egg to a concussion, skull fracture or even permanent brain damage. “The AAP also recommends protective headwear for skiing, snowboarding, football and hockey.”"
            Originally posted by JackFan96
            Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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            • #66
              Re: New threads

              http://newsblaze.com/story/200601090.../topstory.html

              "The study, which will be published in February's edition of Neurosurgery, found that athletes who wore the Riddell Revolution helmet were 31 percent less likely to suffer a concussion compared to athletes who wore traditional football helmets. The authors of the study estimate that the Revolution's patented technology could translate to 18,000 to 46,000 fewer concussions among the 1.5 million high school players who participate in football each season. While these results are very encouraging, Riddell stresses that no helmet will prevent all concussions."
              Originally posted by JackFan96
              Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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              • #67
                Re: New threads

                Originally posted by RabbitObserver View Post
                You didn't show ****! You used your own incredibly flawed logic! I posted a link that shows how helmets are designed to REDUCE CONCUSSIONS!
                http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...984299454.html

                your link also say may, not proven. your link also says No differences in recovery time with newer helmet technology.

                Your struggling like a fish out of water.
                "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                • #68
                  Re: New threads

                  Now post your articles and studies about helmets causing injuries and leather helmets being better.
                  Originally posted by JackFan96
                  Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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                  • #69
                    Re: New threads

                    Originally posted by goon View Post
                    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...984299454.html

                    your link also say may, not proven. your link also says No differences in recovery time with newer helmet technology.

                    Your struggling like a fish out of water.
                    From your link:

                    "But while these helmets reduced the chances of death on the field"
                    Originally posted by JackFan96
                    Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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                    • #70
                      Re: New threads

                      Originally posted by RabbitObserver View Post
                      And the fact that players are bigger and faster and stronger. And more people are playing. I don't know why the NFL doesn't just get rid of helmets. It'd be so much safer!

                      Goon, find one person that agrees with you. ONE article on the internet. Anything besides your ****ed up logic.
                      One of the strongest arguments for banning helmets comes from the Australian Football League. While it's a similarly rough game, the AFL never added any of the body armor Americans wear. When comparing AFL research studies and official NFL injury reports, AFL players appear to get hurt more often on the whole with things like shoulder injuries and tweaked knees. But when it comes to head injuries, the helmeted NFL players are about 25% more likely to sustain one.

                      Andrew McIntosh, a researcher at Australia's University of New South Wales who analyzed videotape, says there may be a greater prevalence of head injuries in the American game because the players hit each other with forces up to 100% greater. "If they didn't have helmets on, they wouldn't do that," he says. "They know they'd injure themselves."
                      "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                      Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                      • #71
                        Re: New threads

                        Originally posted by RabbitObserver View Post
                        Now post your articles and studies about helmets causing injuries and leather helmets being better.
                        your talking about new tech that not every one uses, once it is and designed to cut down concussions, you would be right, but so far my facts are still proven at this point.
                        "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                        Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                        • #72
                          Re: New threads

                          Originally posted by goon View Post
                          One of the strongest arguments for banning helmets comes from the Australian Football League. While it's a similarly rough game, the AFL never added any of the body armor Americans wear. When comparing AFL research studies and official NFL injury reports, AFL players appear to get hurt more often on the whole with things like shoulder injuries and tweaked knees. But when it comes to head injuries, the helmeted NFL players are about 25% more likely to sustain one.

                          Andrew McIntosh, a researcher at Australia's University of New South Wales who analyzed videotape, says there may be a greater prevalence of head injuries in the American game because the players hit each other with forces up to 100% greater. "If they didn't have helmets on, they wouldn't do that," he says. "They know they'd injure themselves."
                          I lived in Australia for a year and worked with Aussie Rules football players. There is no way you can compare American Football to Aussie Rules Football.

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                          • #73
                            Re: New threads

                            Originally posted by UWMandSDSU View Post
                            I don't think you can make the argument that helmets are a direct link to an increase in head injuries. The increase in head injuries may be due to the fact more and more head injuries are now being reported.
                            More are thought to actually go untreated or noticed then the ones being reported. It was in one of the articles.
                            "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                            Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                            • #74
                              Re: New threads

                              Originally posted by goon View Post
                              your talking about new tech that not every one uses, once it is and designed to cut down concussions, you would be right, but so far my facts are still proven at this point.
                              Now you're adding qualifiers. The fact is, the most modern helmets are far safer than no helmet.

                              This will be my last point in the thread:

                              This is the ONLY thing I am arguing. If I were to hit you in the head with a 2x4 and gave you the choice between a new helmet and a leather helmet, which one would you choose?
                              Originally posted by JackFan96
                              Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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                              • #75
                                Re: New threads

                                Originally posted by RabbitObserver View Post
                                Now you're adding qualifiers. The fact is, the most modern helmets are far safer than no helmet.

                                This will be my last point in the thread:

                                This is the ONLY thing I am arguing. If I were to hit you in the head with a 2x4 and gave you the choice between a new helmet and a leather helmet, which one would you choose?
                                Your making weak attempts dude, no one if football gets hit straigth with a 2x4. I am acutally talking about how the game is played on the field. how about getting hit with a mac truck, that would be nasty too. Talk about qauilifers, most modern, which has only been a few years and not enough reserch to prove its effectiveness. 40 years of using old tech that causes more injuries to now your saying most modern.

                                Well works done and I am out of here. time to listen to some womens game on the radio. Go Jacks.
                                "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                                Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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