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  • Re: 2011 Schedule

    Originally posted by JACKGUYII View Post
    How about getting your team ready to play a very tough non-conference schedule/FBS opponent and MVC schedule. How about reducing some costs and netting some more money. Many of the elite FCS schools do it for the same reason FBS schools play SDSU. It's warm up game. A DII game may not help our playoffs chances, but it doesn't hurt them either. What effect does having so many losses early in the season by playing such a tough schedule have on morale on the team, fan attendence? Taking yourself out of the playoffs by scheduling bravado is not smart either. A more balanced approach should be considered as reflected by Stig in Terry's blog. One "sacrificial lamb" early in the year should be sought. I doubt it will effect attendence much as people want more home games and show up for more reasons than who the opponent is as certainly a home game against the "marquis" opponent has not always put more butts in seats. http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...ItemsPerPage=5

    USF is playing at McNeese State and UND this year and has an opening next year. I would rather play them and spread some money to a local product. I think people might be more curious about that game than play a non-scholarship program or other FCS team that is demanding too much money! There are some very good DII programs in the area that can play some good football. We should know that as well as anyone.
    Ask Montana if playing a D2 school can hurt your playoff chances. I would rather see a cupcake FCS school come in which is what it sounds like we tried to do but couldn't get done. I don't have an issue bringing in SUU to open. I think it gives the team the motivation to prepare to open against a quality opponent who we have some history with. It is a home game which will draw a nice crowd (over 10K) and a quality win against SUU will go much further in developing confidence then a win over USF or any other local D2 school. To me those games are no win situations. If you don't win by 40 you get asked what happened. If you do win by 40 no one cares because that is what is expected. If you lose... well I think everyone remembers the fiasco not to be mentioned that occurred several years back.

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    • Re: 2011 Schedule

      Originally posted by JACKGUYII View Post
      How about getting your team ready to play a very tough non-conference schedule/FBS opponent and MVC schedule. How about reducing some costs and netting some more money. Many of the elite FCS schools do it for the same reason FBS schools play SDSU. It's warm up game. A DII game may not help our playoffs chances, but it doesn't hurt them either. What effect does having so many losses early in the season by playing such a tough schedule have on morale on the team, fan attendence? Taking yourself out of the playoffs by scheduling bravado is not smart either. A more balanced approach should be considered as reflected by Stig in Terry's blog. One "sacrificial lamb" early in the year should be sought. I doubt it will effect attendence much as people want more home games and show up for more reasons than who the opponent is as certainly a home game against the "marquis" opponent has not always put more butts in seats. http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...ItemsPerPage=5

      USF is playing at McNeese State and UND this year and has an opening next year. I would rather play them and spread some money to a local product. I think people might be more curious about that game than play a non-scholarship program or other FCS team that is demanding too much money! There are some very good DII programs in the area that can play some good football. We should know that as well as anyone.


      The only positive i can think of playing USF would be if we got beat, we wouldnt hear about Lacrosse anymore.

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      • Re: 2011 Schedule

        Originally posted by mitchellrabbit View Post
        The only positive i can think of playing USF would be if we got beat, we wouldnt hear about Lacrosse anymore.
        I don't think State offers that sport.
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        • Re: 2011 Schedule

          Originally posted by JACKGUYII View Post
          How about getting your team ready to play a very tough non-conference schedule/FBS opponent and MVC schedule. How about reducing some costs and netting some more money. Many of the elite FCS schools do it for the same reason FBS schools play SDSU. It's warm up game. A DII game may not help our playoffs chances, but it doesn't hurt them either. What effect does having so many losses early in the season by playing such a tough schedule have on morale on the team, fan attendence? Taking yourself out of the playoffs by scheduling bravado is not smart either. A more balanced approach should be considered as reflected by Stig in Terry's blog. One "sacrificial lamb" early in the year should be sought. I doubt it will effect attendence much as people want more home games and show up for more reasons than who the opponent is as certainly a home game against the "marquis" opponent has not always put more butts in seats. http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...ItemsPerPage=5

          USF is playing at McNeese State and UND this year and has an opening next year. I would rather play them and spread some money to a local product. I think people might be more curious about that game than play a non-scholarship program or other FCS team that is demanding too much money! There are some very good DII programs in the area that can play some good football. We should know that as well as anyone.
          The only reason those "elite" FCS teams such as Montana and UD play teams like that is the huge amount of money they make off of their home games, so they schedule those games instead of an FBS school, at least in Montanas case. For them it makes sense, but not for us, with how tough the Valley is and having a FBS game as well thrown in there, if you put in a DII then you are basically saying that the team has to go 7-2 through the conference and the other non conference game. Not a good idea to me IMHO with how tough the conference is growing up to be.
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          • Re: 2011 Schedule

            Originally posted by mitchellrabbit View Post
            The only positive i can think of playing USF would be if we got beat, we wouldnt hear about Lacrosse anymore.
            No way, I'd rather hear about Lacrosse.
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            • Re: 2011 Schedule

              I think I'd write my first letter of complaint to the AD's office if a DII was scheduled in football.

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              • Re: 2011 Schedule

                Originally posted by JackJD View Post
                I think I'd write my first letter of complaint to the AD's office if a DII was scheduled in football.
                This^^^^ A D2 game is not an option. It's proven now that 7 FCS wins will get you in the playoffs. The more FCS teams you play the greater the chance to make it to that magic number. And thanks to the Bizzzzzonn, it's proven a MVFC team with 7 wins is a dangerous opponent and playoff worthy.
                With fans like this who needs enemas.....

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                • Re: 2011 Schedule

                  Originally posted by Theee Catrabbit View Post
                  This^^^^ A D2 game is not an option. It's proven now that 7 FCS wins will get you in the playoffs. The more FCS teams you play the greater the chance to make it to that magic number. And thanks to the Bizzzzzonn, it's proven a MVFC team with 7 wins is a dangerous opponent and playoff worthy.

                  Could not agree more. SDSU went D-1 to play against D-1 opponents.
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                  • Re: 2011 Schedule

                    Originally posted by SDSUAlum08 View Post
                    Could not agree more. SDSU went D-1 to play against D-1 opponents.
                    And last year proved had a hard time beating them. Maybe not go for D-2 schools, but if we can play 12 games in a season and can get a good gate at home for the 6th game against a regional team, I think it needs to be considered.

                    in an 11 game Schedule if we play a BCS confrence game we need to counter that with a very winnable game. Not a cupcake like some say but there are a lot of schools with avg records we should be trying to get 2-1 deals for us and play them a little money for the return trip. Maybe there is a lot I don't understand, but if we want a new stadium, I feel it would be who of us to try to get as many games at home as we can to maximize potential attendance and gate revenue.
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                    • Re: 2011 Schedule

                      Any advantage to scheduling less than DI level FCS opponents are outweighed by the importance of playing as many DI games as the schedule allows. FBS games are beneficial because of the large sum of money and the exposure so they should remain and in my opinion be a priority.

                      Ideally, we'd have a minimum of 6 home games per year but I'm okay with 5 as long as all the games, home or away, are DI level. I don't buy into the idea that beating a lower division or lower quality team does anything for confidence or helps to prepare a team for the next game or the rest of the season. Practice is what prepares you for the game that week.
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                      • Re: 2011 Schedule

                        Originally posted by goon View Post
                        And last year proved had a hard time beating them. Maybe not go for D-2 schools, but if we can play 12 games in a season and can get a good gate at home for the 6th game against a regional team, I think it needs to be considered.
                        And the year before that they proved they could beat them.

                        I refuse to say that we need easier competition. SDSU needs to step their game up.

                        I really don't see how playing a weaker regional team will help SDSU when it comes playoff time.

                        Bring in good teams and the crowds will come.
                        -South Dakotan by birth, a Jackrabbit by choice.

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                        • Re: 2011 Schedule

                          Originally posted by SoDakJack View Post
                          And the year before that they proved they could beat them.

                          I refuse to say that we need easier competition. SDSU needs to step their game up.

                          I really don't see how playing a weaker regional team will help SDSU when it comes playoff time.

                          Bring in good teams and the crowds will come.
                          I never said it would help the play offs, but it could help bring in gate revenue. You dont think there would be good fan turn out if Augie game up for a game during a 12 game season? I for one think regional fans would be interested in it. and if we have 11 counter games, what is the problem trying to fill a 6th home game with a regional shool. I would rather play D-2 they waste a home game for a bye week which doesnt help us get closer to the playoffs or to bring an revenue in.
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                          • Re: 2011 Schedule

                            Originally posted by goon View Post
                            I never said it would help the play offs, but it could help bring in gate revenue. You dont think there would be good fan turn out if Augie game up for a game during a 12 game season? I for one think regional fans would be interested in it. and if we have 11 counter games, what is the problem trying to fill a 6th home game with a regional shool. I would rather play D-2 they waste a home game for a bye week which doesnt help us get closer to the playoffs or to bring an revenue in.
                            Playing a team like Augie doesn't really help the team. And, why should SDSU give a regional school any type of recruiting material?

                            Schedule teams like Cal-Poly and the revenue will be there.
                            -South Dakotan by birth, a Jackrabbit by choice.

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                            • Re: 2011 Schedule

                              Originally posted by SoDakJack View Post
                              Playing a team like Augie doesn't really help the team. And, why should SDSU give a regional school any type of recruiting material?

                              Schedule teams like Cal-Poly and the revenue will be there.
                              I agree. playing a team like augie would not help us at all. I don't think that they would get any recruiting material from that game as the game wouldn't be close!

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                              • Re: 2011 Schedule

                                Originally posted by SpeedRabbit View Post
                                I agree. playing a team like augie would not help us at all. I don't think that they would get any recruiting material from that game as the game wouldn't be close!
                                I look at a SDSU-Augie (or any lower team) as how people approached the SDSU-Nebraska game. Nebraska was in a no-win situation in that game. SDSU came out and basically embarrassed, at the time, a top 10 team. The Jacks got great pub and playing up was a great recruiting tool.

                                SDSU isn't a regional team anymore and the schedule shouldn't be either.
                                -South Dakotan by birth, a Jackrabbit by choice.

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