Summit MBB 2018-19 conference

[CappinHard]

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Fyi, Omaha is a 2 point underdog today at NDSU. I'll definitely have my eye on that score while watching the Jacks trounce the yotes.

[Grizzled_Jack]

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While I'm feeling bad about WIU, let me quote this clip from the WIU fan forum (USD game)-- something is wrong here:

"There were 5 Western cheerleaders when the game started. There were only 3 cheerleaders at the end of the game. And there were no cheerleaders for the Women's game that followed.

Attendance at Western Hall = 591 which made it the largest crowd of the year for a Men's game."

[Grizzled_Jack]

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They are surprisingly turning heads in the Omaha community too. I had a 1:30 meeting with a couple of Omaha bankers and other business leaders and they all commented that the Creighton and Husker brands have been tarnished this year with the performances of their respective performances. They all commented how they may need to start wearing Maverick wear and one was at the SDSU/UNO game and was very impressed.

This. Sitting next to some Mav's fans, I mentioned that I hated the loss but it was good for the conference. I've been told in earlier visits that Omaha left the MIAA because it couldn't compete in football. I think everyone now thinks the decision to go DI was a good one and Omaha is going to be one of the strong players in the conference. Unlike my trips to Tulsa and Macomb I feel good about my experiences in Omaha. Even when we lose.

[Nidaros]

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Hard to say for sure what the cost for an indoor stadium would be, but if you look at the Alerus in Gramd Forks, it holds 13,500 and was constructed between 1998-2001 for $80 million. That would be $113 million in 2018 dollars. Now this also included convention center space, so not totally apples to apples. The Dykhouse cost $65 million, so I’m guessing we would have been luck to get over 10,000 capacity in a new indoor stadium. Adding a roof and enclosing a space would have been incredibly expensive to construct, as well as significantly more expensive to maintain and operate (think about just heating and cooling).

NDSU was very fortunate to have the City of Fargo involved in the Fargo Dome. With the population of Brookings being less than 25,000, a town and gown project such as a 20,000 seat indoor stadium is not possible. City Sales tax made the FargoDome a reality during the construction phase and financed with non-athletic events to cover the excessive heating and cooling during the year. Now if SDSU moved down the road about 60 miles, game on. This notion should get some reaction.

[LARabbit]

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I have a serious question that I am wondering if somebody can help me out with.
How big of a indoor stadium could SDSU have built for the same amount of money that they spent on their outdoor stadium? I know it depend on all the bells and whistles but just a general figure.
SDSU averaged about 10,200 fans for their 7 home games. If they built an indoor stadium, would they have had more total fans it all 7 games were sellouts?
Thank you to anyone that can clear this up "some" for me.
If this has been brought up before I'm sorry for repeating it but I missed it if it was.

Hard to say for sure what the cost for an indoor stadium would be, but if you look at the Alerus in Gramd Forks, it holds 13,500 and was constructed between 1998-2001 for $80 million. That would be $113 million in 2018 dollars. Now this also included convention center space, so not totally apples to apples. The Dykhouse cost $65 million, so I’m guessing we would have been luck to get over 10,000 capacity in a new indoor stadium. Adding a roof and enclosing a space would have been incredibly expensive to construct, as well as significantly more expensive to maintain and operate (think about just heating and cooling).

[GopherHole]

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It would be impressive if UNO wins 3 on the road and 8 straight to end the season. That would be winning 13 of the last 14 (and 17 of the last 19) after starting the season 3-7. They would definitely have earned the 1 seed.

They are surprisingly turning heads in the Omaha community too. I had a 1:30 meeting with a couple of Omaha bankers and other business leaders and they all commented that the Creighton and Husker brands have been tarnished this year with the performances of their respective performances. They all commented how they may need to start wearing Maverick wear and one was at the SDSU/UNO game and was very impressed.

[CappinHard]

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Omaha's final game is at Denver. I will be surprised if Omaha wins out.It will be interesting to see if the Pioneers have any will to stay out of the cellar.

It would be impressive if UNO wins 3 on the road and 8 straight to end the season. That would be winning 13 of the last 14 (and 17 of the last 19) after starting the season 3-7. They would definitely have earned the 1 seed.

[bigticket1]

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Coming down to the end of the season and here is what lies ahead.

1. SDSU 12-2 (USD, Western Ill.)
2. UNO 11-2 (@ NDSU, @ ORU, Denver)
3. PFW 9-5 (UND, NDSU)
4. NDSU 8-5 (UNO, @USD, @PFW)
5. ORU 6-8 (@W Ill, UNO)
6. USD 5-8 (@ SDSU, NDSU, UND)
7. UND 4-9 (Den, @PFW, @USD)
8. W Ill. 3-10 (ORU, @Den, @SDSU)
9. Den 2-11 (@NDSU, W Ill, UNO)

Lots of key matchups to close the regular season. Obviously we'd like to win the outright conference championship and the #1 seed, but need to close out and get some help.
UNO has a tough road stretch, but could go 3-0 and get the #1 seed for the tourney.
PFW is in the driver's seat for the #3 seed.
NDSU needs one win to lock up #4, but could go 0-3 to close out the season.
ORU could finish at 8-8 to potentially tie NDSU, but don't bet on it.
USD could go 2-1 to close out the season and potentially tie ORU in standings.
UND is nearly locked in for the tourney and could lock it up with a victory at home against Denver.
Big game for Western Illinois at Denver. Denver must win that for a chance to go to Sioux Falls.

Omaha's final game is at Denver. I will be surprised if Omaha wins out.It will be interesting to see if the Pioneers have any will to stay out of the cellar.

[jrd]

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The line item of corporate sponsorship dollars is shocking as well:

SDSU: $1,920,121
USD: $50,799

The yotes can give us crap all they want about being a cow college, however if you look at the corporate advertising at our athletic venues and listen to the ads during a Jackrabbit broadcast there is a significant investment being made by agri-business.

[GopherHole]

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I have a serious question that I am wondering if somebody can help me out with.
How big of a indoor stadium could SDSU have built for the same amount of money that they spent on their outdoor stadium? I know it depend on all the bells and whistles but just a general figure.
SDSU averaged about 10,200 fans for their 7 home games. If they built an indoor stadium, would they have had more total fans it all 7 games were sellouts?
Thank you to anyone that can clear this up "some" for me.
If this has been brought up before I'm sorry for repeating it but I missed it if it was.

Lots of snow and with the high winds this Saturday we could expect some serious drifting. Still not as much as this thread drift. Previous post is my attempt to get this discussion back on Summit League basketball.

[GopherHole]

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Coming down to the end of the season and here is what lies ahead.

1. SDSU 12-2 (USD, Western Ill.)
2. UNO 11-2 (@ NDSU, @ ORU, Denver)
3. PFW 9-5 (UND, NDSU)
4. NDSU 8-5 (UNO, @USD, @PFW)
5. ORU 6-8 (@W Ill, UNO)
6. USD 5-8 (@ SDSU, NDSU, UND)
7. UND 4-9 (Den, @PFW, @USD)
8. W Ill. 3-10 (ORU, @Den, @SDSU)
9. Den 2-11 (@NDSU, W Ill, UNO)

Lots of key matchups to close the regular season. Obviously we'd like to win the outright conference championship and the #1 seed, but need to close out and get some help.
UNO has a tough road stretch, but could go 3-0 and get the #1 seed for the tourney.
PFW is in the driver's seat for the #3 seed.
NDSU needs one win to lock up #4, but could go 0-3 to close out the season.
ORU could finish at 8-8 to potentially tie NDSU, but don't bet on it.
USD could go 2-1 to close out the season and potentially tie ORU in standings.
UND is nearly locked in for the tourney and could lock it up with a victory at home against Denver.
Big game for Western Illinois at Denver. Denver must win that for a chance to go to Sioux Falls.

[91jack]

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or or you could compare it to the reported 3042 at your football playoff game where maybe 1200 were there in a stadium that’s new and holds 19,340. Not a great attendance for a playoff game in such a nice new stadium

I have a serious question that I am wondering if somebody can help me out with.
How big of a indoor stadium could SDSU have built for the same amount of money that they spent on their outdoor stadium? I know it depend on all the bells and whistles but just a general figure.
SDSU averaged about 10,200 fans for their 7 home games. If they built an indoor stadium, would they have had more total fans it all 7 games were sellouts?
Thank you to anyone that can clear this up "some" for me.
If this has been brought up before I'm sorry for repeating it but I missed it if it was.

[CappinHard]

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The line item of corporate sponsorship dollars is shocking as well:

SDSU: $1,920,121
USD: $50,799

Can't blame the corporate sponsors... Way more bang for your buck in terms of exposure at SDSU due to larger attendance numbers. Plus, I'm sure most companies just don't want their brand associated with USD in general.

[BTownJack]

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The line item of corporate sponsorship dollars is shocking as well:

SDSU: $1,920,121
USD: $50,799

[GopherHole]

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I know accounting can differ between various organizations, but I found this funny.

USD income sources

Gate receipts/concessions/program sales: $1,031,565
Laundry/copier/printing/office stores/reimbursements: $506,250

Maybe they've found their niche in the athletic department. The second line item has to be much more profitable.
(I probably should be focusing these comments to the smack thread.)