Coach Nielsen seeking multi year contract

[goon]

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if anybody can, USD live chat is going on so can maybe get some more info out of Mick. I would guess its being discussed.

[Jacked_Up]

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Dirk Lammers, the Associated Press reporter, deserves credit for bringing public attention to this issue. Otherwise, it probably would have gotten resolved quietly with no public discussion. I don't know if the state schools will be better off or worse off, in the long run, if the regents start allowing multi-year contracts for coaches, but a political can of worms is being opened in a state in which most workers have no protection. Most workers can be fired at any moment for no reason. I can't blame Coach Nielsen for seeking a little security. If the president or AD leaves, he could be gone.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Dirk Lammers, the Associated Press reporter, deserves credit for bringing public attention to this issue. Otherwise, it probably would have gotten resolved quietly with no public discussion. I don't know if the state schools will be better off or worse off, in the long run, if the regents start allowing multi-year contracts for coaches, but a political can of worms is being opened in a state in which most workers have no protection. Most workers can be fired at any moment for no reason. I can't blame Coach Nielsen for seeking a little security. If the president or AD leaves, he could be gone.

This will affect SDSU sooner rather than later.

Nagy, AJ, and Stig are going to want a multi-year contract I'd guess.

[Justwin]

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This will affect SDSU sooner rather than later.

Nagy, AJ, and Stig are going to want a multi-year contract I'd guess.

I'm not sure they will be to worried about one but I guarantee the ones that come after will!

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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if anybody can, USD live chat is going on so can maybe get some more info out of Mick. I would guess its being discussed.

I wasn't on live so I couldn't ask questions, but just took a look.

Like our Coyote friends who have posted here, I got the impression that he believes anyone who would ask questions about this process is a merely a partisan SDSU fan acting out of spite. There will be no follow up on whether or not policy or bylaws were broken.

Its a real shame. There should be more transparency. Nobody cares.

[TransAmBison]

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If that is the case this multi-year contract request for this year is moot. I'm not a lawyer(KUlaw, insight?) but if it's in place it would seem this would be for next years contract. Unless Herbster and the BOR want to tear up the existing contract to make this happen.

I could care less about multi-year contracts. I'm not of the opinion they hurt or help retain/attract quality coaches. That is more the responsibility of the institution, administration and fanbase.

My first reaction was that he's making $255K(unless that's total coaching staff budget, correct me if I'm wrong), 45-$60K more than any of our big 3 coaches. I'm surprised that I'm the only one to voice this as strange that he warrants that going into an unproven situation of a program still struggling to find its ground in the MVFC. Before you yote fans go berserk, beating MN and the championship team up north does not mean you've arrived. Playoffs 4 yrs in a row shows you're making advancements and improving for the good.

As for the amount, I think USD had to offer an amount that would entice a Valley coach (they said they wanted a Valley coach I believe). They are trying to improve...and that will take money. I don't know if the multi year contracts matter...but I applaud them trying to do what they think to get/retain good coaches. It is a step...we will see if they continue down that path.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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This will affect SDSU sooner rather than later.

Nagy, AJ, and Stig are going to want a multi-year contract I'd guess.

Change the policy, great. Just don't do it like this.

If the Sioux Falls school district ignored written policies and made a one time exception, the Argus Leader would throw an absolute fit.

[joeboo22]

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This will affect SDSU sooner rather than later.

Nagy, AJ, and Stig are going to want a multi-year contract I'd guess.

There agents/representation definitely will.

I heard a lawyer who represents schools talk about multi-year contracts, and she wasn't necessarily opposed to them, but was grossly opposed to them for new employees.

You are hiring a guy you don't know, haven't seen work everyday, shouldn't you want to protect yourself if come March or December of next year its just clearly not working?

That is why I'm opposed to multi-year contracts, especially for new employees.

As for this situation. It is complete b.s. If SDSU just started selling alcohol at its games, and then a month later asked for the exemption, but only for their games, how would people feel?

1 year contracts hasn't caused either SDSU or USD to lose a coach, it hasn't hurt applicants for the jobs as well.

I'm kinda a hell raiser, but if I was a professor or another head coach for a state university in South Dakota, I'd be raising hell right now. But that is me

[MontanaRabbit]

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I'm not sure they will be to worried about one but I guarantee the ones that come after will!

Why wouldn't they care now? The multi-year comes with a guarantee. You're either gonna work X number or years for Y dollars. If we decided to fire you then you get a Z buyout. Right now it's not an option so no big deal...if it's an option they'll want it...probably demand it.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Change the policy, great. Just don't do it like this.

If the Sioux Falls school district ignored written policies and made a one time exception, the Argus Leader would throw an absolute fit.

I actually agree with you (shocker I know), albeit I don't feel nearly as strongly. On the outside this seems a really backward way of doing this. One thing we don't know is what has been discussed behind the scenes.


One thing the frustrates me to this day is how the BOR made special rules for SDSU that were designed to make us stay DII when we made the jump. USD didn't have to follow any of those BS rules and now they do this.

[jack power]

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I actually agree with you (shocker I know), albeit I don't feel nearly as strongly. On the outside this seems a really backward way of doing this. One thing we don't know is what has been discussed behind the scenes.


One thing the frustrates me to this day is how the BOR made special rules for SDSU that were designed to make us stay DII when we made the jump. USD didn't have to follow any of those BS rules and now they do this.

It shouldn't be discussed behind the scenes.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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It shouldn't be discussed behind the scenes.

There's probably a policy or bylaw about that. No biggie, this thing needs to happen ASAP. Maybe they made one-time special exceptions for those policies as well.

[Justwin]

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Why wouldn't they care now? The multi-year comes with a guarantee. You're either gonna work X number or years for Y dollars. If we decided to fire you then you get a Z buyout. Right now it's not an option so no big deal...if it's an option they'll want it...probably demand it.

I get what your saying but IMO those 3 are pretty safe in their jobs. To get their replacements is where this will come into play. Just as we have seen at USD.

[Cousin Eddie]

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Are you seriously comparing SDSU students raising their fees for a wellness center FOR THE STUDENTS and USD students raising their fees to essentially pay for FCOA?

That is absolutely not the case. That money cannot be used to fund FCOA and won't be. You are misinformed.

[goon]

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That is absolutely not the case. That money cannot be used to fund FCOA and won't be. You are misinformed.

Well, lets say the money "raised was for recruitment or travel costs" but some of the money that was budgeted for that previously was moved to a new budget line for FCOA, lets not act like some of the money wont end up being moved to fund that very thing.