Coach Nielsen seeking multi year contract

[goon]

Re: Coach Nielsen seeking multi year contract

So they made a one time exception today then?

[jackdaniel]

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Be bold,be assertive,break the rules and reap the rewards.Not quite the things impressionable students need to learn from observing how things work in the real world from their AD.Oh well,another ole fashioned principle gets pushed aside,actually two,integrity and fairness. So, USD will have a new coach with a multi year contract,but everyone else is prohibited from seeking the same privilege..... Nice.

Not being an advocate of multi-year contracts per se, as I don't really think they are in the best interest of the school, but like what was said earlier, I believe that they only benefit coaches and their agents. We've found excellent coaches without multi-year contracts, and I think our coaches know they will probably be able to stay as long as is their desire to stay here and coach,when a reasonable level of success is achieved.I think we realize we can't be too terribly demanding,given how much we can afford to pay ,we only expect the athletic program to be competitive with our peers,any more than that makes us extremely happy and well content.

[SDSUAlum08]

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My thoughts on the subject:
If USD wants to offer multi year contracts that's fine. USD and SDSU have had a long history of operating in very different fashions, so what does it matter if they want to do this differently also. I can totally understand why Nielson would want a multi year contract, as USD has gone through a fair amount of coaches in recent years. Even if the BOR does allow this to pass, I don't see SDSU changing to offering multi year contracts. They have a proven history of loyalty to coaches, even when records aren't what the fan base might want them to be. A SDSU coach would have to be just as unsuccessful off the court/field as on it to get canned.

Take off those glasses. A new coach coming here will want a multi-year contract.

[Jackedforlife]

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God willing we won't have to worry about a replacement for the big 3 for at least 10, maybe even 20 years. I can see Stig coaching into his 70's for the love of it. AJ has 20-30 years left in his career if he chooses. Nagy could go 15-20 too. So continued consistency will keep the stability. I believe the other coaches are starting to find their ground too. I'd say Erickson would be the first to retire out of that group and I believe he has the most years at State out of all the coaches.

If these coaches eventually receive multi-year contracts it will be because they have proven their abilities and deserved the contract.

[SturgisJeff]

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So they made a one time exception today then?

From what I've read no. They want to make it multi-year contract for all schools and appointed someone to look into it and plan to vote at the next meeting.

http://www.yankton.net/news/state_ap...afd1b217c.html

[SDSUAlum08]

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God willing we won't have to worry about a replacement for the big 3 for at least 10, maybe even 20 years. I can see Stig coaching into his 70's for the love of it. AJ has 20-30 years left in his career if he chooses. Nagy could go 15-20 too. So continued consistency will keep the stability. I believe the other coaches are starting to find their ground too. I'd say Erickson would be the first to retire out of that group and I believe he has the most years at State out of all the coaches.

If these coaches eventually receive multi-year contracts it will be because they have proven their abilities and deserved the contract.

Stig wont be coaching into his 70s. Only he knows for sure, but he's said he'll retire earlier than most people think.

I personally don't see an issue with USD going after the multi-year contract. It was going to come around soon enough. If USD would have received an exception for Nielsen and he'd be the only employed person in the state with a multi-year contract, then you could be upset. That's not going to happen and soon all coaches in the state will be able to offer long term contracts.

[jackdaniel]

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Take off those glasses. A new coach coming here will want a multi-year contract.

Maybe not if we give a well deserved assistant the chance to try their hand as a HC. We are always searching for that greener grass and looking past the assistants who have remained loyal throughout the years. College message boards are full of examples of "name" brand coaches who go from one program where they've had some success and go to another and fail miserably. That's because the conditions are different (they lose their area contacts for recruiting, and can't establish new ones in their new area, etc). Don't know why some people think money magically falls from the sky,and the solution is to throw money at the problem, maybe because they've had it handed to them too easily,IDK.

BTW,....that's how AJ got his job,being brought up from being an assistant coach ,a pretty good hire I'd say.

[bigticket1]

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I found it interesting that USD's plan was to "go after" a current Valley head coach. I could understand talking to someone's assistant to move up, but not a head coach. Not a very good way to foster good relations. I wonder if they contacted Stig ? It would be a different situation if a coach had contacted them with interest, but to me this would be like trying to poach recruits after they had committed to someone in-conference. Not very kosher in my book.

[SturgisJeff]

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I found it interesting that USD's plan was to "go after" a current Valley head coach. I could understand talking to someone's assistant to move up, but not a head coach. Not a very good way to foster good relations. I wonder if they contacted Stig ? It would be a different situation if a coach had contacted them with interest, but to me this would be like trying to poach recruits after they had committed to someone in-conference. Not very kosher in my book.

well if you look at the recent commits for USD at least three of them were going to Western until the coach went to the u. so the u kinda did poach some recruits.

[Justwin]

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I found it interesting that USD's plan was to "go after" a current Valley head coach. I could understand talking to someone's assistant to move up, but not a head coach. Not a very good way to foster good relations. I wonder if they contacted Stig ? It would be a different situation if a coach had contacted them with interest, but to me this would be like trying to poach recruits after they had committed to someone in-conference. Not very kosher in my book.

I for one will give credit to USD on this one. Yes they went after a valley coach and got him. This also brings in a person that has recruiting ties to areas that were previously harder to cover. To me this shows a commitment to their program rather than choose the safe path and promote an assistant coach. By getting the ball rolling and getting an outdated law changed on multi year contacts also shows signs of life. Yes many are riled up about how this happened but in the end it doesn't really matter as long as it gets done. I still believe we at SDSU will need a multi year contract at some point to hire a coach.

[filbert]

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well if you look at the recent commits for USD at least three of them were going to Western until the coach went to the u. so the u kinda did poach some recruits.

That's not at all uncommon. Schools don't recruit; coaches recruit. It's not at all surprising that a high school athlete will tend to follow a coach that recruited him/her, who moves to a different schools. That's why the NCAA doesn't hold recruits to LOI's when a coach is fired/leaves one place.

[Nidaros]

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Now that USD got their exception passed, it will be interesting to see what happens from here out. We can point out the pros and cons of multi year contracts until the cows come home, but it will not matter much. I am just kind of done with this topic until there are further developments. I probably read about them here first.

[slosho]

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Now that USD got their exception passed, it will be interesting to see what happens from here out. We can point out the pros and cons of multi year contracts until the cows come home, but it will not matter much. I am just kind of done with this topic until there are further developments. I probably read about them here first.

I beleive they ruled not to extend him the multi-year deal, but to seriously change (I read:CHANGE) The current policy. I am glad it will change, somewhat, Being a conservative when it comes to $$$ policy I believe this to be a negative from that lens. However I am a realist and Know that we will be replacing 3 major program coaches within the next 10-15 years. and the reality is in today's D1 climate you need multiple year deals for top applicants. USD's last 3 Hires have been great IMO and are the continued exception to the rule that we in SD have been lucky enough to enjoy.

I still think they way they went about it was all wrong, but perhaps it was a move prompted by the head of the BOR to force this issue. Personally I feel the BOR with their current rules shouldn't have even ever entertained the idea. But if it gets changed he is little to no doubt that both University's will benefit.

[Nidaros]

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I beleive they ruled not to extend him the multi-year deal, but to seriously change (I read:CHANGE) The current policy. I am glad it will change, somewhat, Being a conservative when it comes to $$$ policy I believe this to be a negative from that lens. However I am a realist and Know that we will be replacing 3 major program coaches within the next 10-15 years. and the reality is in today's D1 climate you need multiple year deals for top applicants. USD's last 3 Hires have been great IMO and are the continued exception to the rule that we in SD have been lucky enough to enjoy.

I still think they way they went about it was all wrong, but perhaps it was a move prompted by the head of the BOR to force this issue. Personally I feel the BOR with their current rules shouldn't have even ever entertained the idea. But if it gets changed he is little to no doubt that both University's will benefit.

I guess I missed that, trying to read this board from an iPhone, I reach different conclusions, its the small print I guess. Its weird to do an exception and not politically popular, so glad that the policy change will happen. Right now we are setting our self up to get in trouble financially. Not every HC will turn out to be a lizard for which we have a contract buy out, but I think most universities have some sort of reserves to handle those lizard type deals.

[Southeast]

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The way it looks to me (and I have not given it much analysis), USD decided to challenge the system and were successful. Well done. We've complained about the lack of multi-year contracts forever on this board.