The Official USD to D-I Smack Thread

[JackJD]

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filbert's a curmudgeon

[filbert]

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Mr. Janak of the Yankton Press & Dakotan appears to be working towards a no-doubt valuable degree from USD. An observer could be forgiven for hoping that his post-college employment will not require writing skills.

In addition to the misuse of the word "concurred" Mr. Janak also inflicted on his reading public (direct quote follows)

Who knew putting together a football schedule for a first year Division I Football Subdivision Championship team could be so hard.

The quote was, of course, noted upthread but I noticed that it is in fact a question, but fails to end with the appropriate punctuation.

Here's a Google search on Vance Janak, author of that insightful P&D article linked upthread. He appears to have cut his teeth writing for the Volante.

Those readers here with a particularly twisted and evil sense of humor can find without great effort other howlers in several of Mr. Janak's other efforts.

Now I'm just a guy with an engineering degree and a couple of Master's but regarding journalism as practiced by Mr. Janak, that old canard from younger days would seem to apply:

We've upped our standards. Now up yours.

Good night, and good luck.

(To JimmyJack: No offense to you, sir or your students. It IS a smack thread, after all.)

[JimmyJack]

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I'm trying to figure out if the word "concurred" was a typo (did the reporter intend "conquered"?) or if there's some subtle meaning in using "concurred" which means "to be of the same opinion, to act together, cooperate, etc.. Here's the start of the article:

It's something University of South Dakota football head coach Ed Meierkort's been struggling with for a few months now.
Some days, he'd think he had it concurred. Then a change took place and it was back to the drawing board for more work.

Maybe it means Coach Meierkort was talking to himself and finally got himself to agree the schedule was okay.

Looks like a typo to me. It's the kind of error we see all the time: It looks and sounds right to them because some students learned to read and write using whole language instruction where spelling and grammar aren't emphasized lest it decrease their love for literature. Give me a break. And give me phonics every time. If I had a dime for every time a student of mine has written "should of" when they mean "should have" ... well, I'd have about about $100. Whole language and texting are killing the English language.

And yes, I do sound like Grampa Simpson.

[JackJD]

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I'm trying to figure out if the word "concurred" was a typo (did the reporter intend "conquered"?) or if there's some subtle meaning in using "concurred" which means "to be of the same opinion, to act together, cooperate, etc.. Here's the start of the article:

It's something University of South Dakota football head coach Ed Meierkort's been struggling with for a few months now.
Some days, he'd think he had it concurred. Then a change took place and it was back to the drawing board for more work.

Maybe it means Coach Meierkort was talking to himself and finally got himself to agree the schedule was okay.

[jackmd]

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I love one of the opening lines "Who knew putting together a football schedule for a first year Division I Football Subdivision Championship team could be so hard"

What really blows me away more than that is they have a DII road game!

Gotta love the "simple guys" in this world. Don't think the P&D ever has to worry about him moving up in the world of journalism. Let's see how many former NCC teams have moved up to DI...........

[EQguy]

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For those interested in the schedule being discussed, here's a link to an article in the Yankton P&D:

http://www.yankton.net/stories/04190...70053287.shtml

I love one of the opening lines "Who knew putting together a football schedule for a first year Division I Football Subdivision Championship team could be so hard"

What really blows me away more than that is they have a DII road game!

[JackJD]

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For those interested in the schedule being discussed, here's a link to an article in the Yankton P&D:

http://www.yankton.net/stories/04190...70053287.shtml

[1bunnies]

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Jeff, to be fair (and this is the smack thread so I don't know why we would be), we counted UNC, NDSU and UC Davis in our first year. All three were in their first or second year of transition.

I'll say it again. There are two roads to go down. SDSU scheduled some of the best and historic FCS programs (Montana, GSU, Southern to name a few) in their first two years and then filled in where they had to. The administration even scheduled many one and dones and two for ones to get those games. USD has a history of taking the easy games so they have a good record and making it look like progress. Not saying one is better than the other but I know which one I prefer.

I with you eq. If usd2 had their way, they would play Minnesota-Crookston 12 times at the dump.

[EQguy]

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Jeff, to be fair (and this is the smack thread so I don't know why we would be), we counted UNC, NDSU and UC Davis in our first year. All three were in their first or second year of transition.

I'll say it again. There are two roads to go down. SDSU scheduled some of the best and historic FCS programs (Montana, GSU, Southern to name a few) in their first two years and then filled in where they had to. The administration even scheduled many one and dones and two for ones to get those games. USD has a history of taking the easy games so they have a good record and making it look like progress. Not saying one is better than the other but I know which one I prefer.

[SturgisJeff]

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Udot 2008 schedule out. Looks like a good season for the big money donators. Three NAIA schools, two division 2 schools, and the rest division 1. But does UND count yet as a 1 school. States first year 3 D-2 and the rest FCS.

[1stRowFANatic]

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I was asked, and now have asked, many times, "Which part of 'no' don't you understand, the 'n' or the 'o'?

[Jack4Life]

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If you were to take a quick second and read my post, it says "Any way you slice it, USD and UND just aren't of the caliber of SDSU and NDSU." What that means is that any way you slice it, USD and UND just aren't of the caliber of SDSU and NDSU.

I don't care whether you are talking sports, academics, or whatever category you want, it just isn't close! Any way you slice it, USD and UND just aren't of the caliber of SDSU and NDSU.

I hope I've clarified that.

SUPERBUNNY

After reading your post, I felt it was like trying to tell your kids "No". When they don't get it, what part of "no" aren't they understanding.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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The internet is a wonderful thing son. You should always check it out before you open mouth and insert foot! Your telling Jackrabbit fans that we were a mediocre program when we moved up? Lets take a look at just the last five years in the key sports before we moved up - if you will.

MBB vs Yotes: Jacks 7 & 3 - 1 NCC champion & 5 regionals

WBB vs Yotes: Jacks 10 - 2 - 2 NCC champions, 3 regionals and O' yes 1 national championship.

Football vs Yotes: Are you setting down? 4 & 1 vs Yotes with three of those wins coming in the sacred dump! If we a were mediocre program just where does that put the Yotes over that time frame?

Yote, look at your schedule the last five years. Do you see SDSU, NDSU or UNC on that schedule? No. That's why your an up and coming program. Crookston, Bemidji, Quincy are you kidding? Three alike games played vs teams from Ark and LA. Jacks 3 -0, Yotes 0 - 3.

Jackrabbit club membership: $1,000.00 dollars

Season tickets: $500.00 dollars

Kicking the Yotes &%$@: Priceless!

Go big, go blue, go Jacks

Any way you slice it, USD and UND just aren't of the caliber of SDSU and NDSU!

SUPERBUNNY

[SUPERBUNNY]

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Yeah, because SDSU had a conference title and a playoff appearance in two of it's last three seasons of D2. Oh wait, errrr, I meant, yeah, it was watered down, WATERED DOWN I TELL YOU!

Give it up. You guys were a mediocre program when you moved up. You've gotten better since then after taking some lumps on the way. The USD football program is on an upswing these last few years, there is no denying it, and is ready and excited for the transition.

If you were to take a quick second and read my post, it says "Any way you slice it, USD and UND just aren't of the caliber of SDSU and NDSU." What that means is that any way you slice it, USD and UND just aren't of the caliber of SDSU and NDSU.

I don't care whether you are talking sports, academics, or whatever category you want, it just isn't close! Any way you slice it, USD and UND just aren't of the caliber of SDSU and NDSU.

I hope I've clarified that.

SUPERBUNNY

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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It awfully easy to take the wrong prong of a fork in the road. .

That's a good point. In fact, I'd say SDSU was pushing hard to take a wrong turn when pushing hard to get into the Big Sky. Now, our judgment was obviously clouded by some desperation since we needed to get into a conference for multiple reasons and most would have argued it was a great turn if we had been able to make it a couple years ago. However, in hindsight we were lucky to have had fate step in and turn us away and towards bigger and better things in the Gateway and the Summit. It will be interesting to see what similar situations present themselves to USD and how they play out. One could argue their conference situation is perhaps more desperate than ours 5 years ago. Then again, the Gateway would have seemed a dream back then to us, so who knows.