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  • #31
    Re: Conference shifts

    Seems to me I heard somewhere that Kansas & Kansas State are required to be in the same conference by their equivalent of the Board of Regents. Anyone know if that is true? It was referenced as a reason why Kansas is in a really, really bad spot.

    You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you can never teach a stupid dog anything.

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    • #32
      Re: Conference shifts

      Notre Dame will be joining a conference soon, however it will not be the Big 10 as the ACC puts the final dagger in the Big East's back by adding ND and Kansas.

      (post inspired by leeshajo)

      You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you can never teach a stupid dog anything.

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      • #33
        Re: Conference shifts

        Originally posted by FargoBison View Post
        The PAC 10 doesn't mess around....

        http://www.pac-10.org/genrel/061010aaa.html
        "Colorado a better fit academically and athletically"

        June 10, 2010; This date in history:
        -Colorado joins Pac 10
        -Colorado gets scholarships yanked for academic reasons
        -USC gets scholarships yanked and put on probation for cheating

        You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you can never teach a stupid dog anything.

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        • #34
          Re: Conference shifts

          With the Buffs gone and the huskers almost gone, why not rename the big 12 to the big 10 and the big 10 becomes the big 12. problem solved. Whats next?
          "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

          Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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          • #35
            Re: Conference shifts

            Originally posted by 1stRowFANatic View Post
            Notre Dame will be joining a conference soon, however it will not be the Big 10 as the ACC puts the final dagger in the Big East's back by adding ND and Kansas.

            (post inspired by leeshajo)

            Or how about the big east adding the two Kansas Teams, it makes sense for football, not sure about basketball.
            LET'S TAKE A TRIP TO BIRDLAND! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68-6O2mJhMw

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            • #36
              Re: Conference shifts

              Maybe I am a little dense but what good does having a major confrence of say 16 teams provide? there are only a few teams that will be even able to compete for confrence and national titles now. having more confrences at 10 teams or so each seems like its provides a better more even playing field with more revenue coming from more sources. The bottom teams would be better joining forces to me. it seems regional confrences are no longer the landscape. Kansas in the ACC? Iowa ST in the mountain west?
              "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

              Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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              • #37
                Re: Conference shifts

                Originally posted by goon View Post
                Maybe I am a little dense but what good does having a major confrence of say 16 teams provide? there are only a few teams that will be even able to compete for confrence and national titles now. having more confrences at 10 teams or so each seems like its provides a better more even playing field with more revenue coming from more sources. The bottom teams would be better joining forces to me. it seems regional confrences are no longer the landscape. Kansas in the ACC? Iowa ST in the mountain west?
                Read Hareball post (fifth on this thread) and click on the link to read an article that puts in perspective what is happening here. Lengthy article, but well written.

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                • #38
                  Re: Conference shifts

                  If the NCAA can make regulations about not being able to move amongst divisions, couldn't they also put a moritorium on moving conferences? Or are big "super conferences" something that the NCAA wants so that there is less of an issue of teams getting "snubbed" by the BCS?
                  -South Dakotan by birth, a Jackrabbit by choice.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Conference shifts

                    I don't think they can. First the BCS is a separate entity from the NCAA entirely. The NCAA is poised to make USC's record 0-13 in 2004, but the BCS has to vote on whether or not to revoke their national championship. Second, the NCAA has requirements for how to be a member of a division in regards to scheduling, but it relates to playing within the division (D1 schools only get so many non-D1 games in basketball for instance) in order to qualify for post-season play. All the previous conference raiding was done and the NCAA didn't really have any role.

                    You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you can never teach a stupid dog anything.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Conference shifts

                      2nd thought: The NCAA may have some influence if they had a FBS level playoff system.

                      You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you can never teach a stupid dog anything.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Conference shifts

                        Originally posted by SoDakJack View Post
                        If the NCAA can make regulations about not being able to move amongst divisions, couldn't they also put a moritorium on moving conferences? Or are big "super conferences" something that the NCAA wants so that there is less of an issue of teams getting "snubbed" by the BCS?
                        The NCAA has no power to control how schools align themselves in conferences. You just need a certain number of schools that meet DI requirements and then you can call yourself a conference.

                        My prediction is that this is all about the BCS starting a playoff and these conferences will have enough power that they can pretty much decide how the money from it is distributed.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Conference shifts

                          Originally posted by 1stRowFANatic View Post
                          Seems to me I heard somewhere that Kansas & Kansas State are required to be in the same conference by their equivalent of the Board of Regents. Anyone know if that is true? It was referenced as a reason why Kansas is in a really, really bad spot.
                          No, this is not true.
                          "I think we'll be OK"

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                          • #43
                            Re: Conference shifts

                            Originally posted by filbert View Post
                            No, this is not true.
                            Thanks for the clarification. Now maybe my outlandish post inspired by leeshajo actually could happen. If so, you know I will take credit for predicting it.

                            You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you can never teach a stupid dog anything.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Conference shifts

                              Potential replacement schools for the Big Twelve:

                              TCU
                              Utah
                              SMU
                              New Mexico
                              Colorado State (hey, would they be any worse than Baylor in football?)
                              Memphis
                              Houston

                              The good thing is that this is probably the end of the BCS. The bad thing is that it will probably be replaced by something worse.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Conference shifts

                                Originally posted by zooropa View Post
                                Potential replacement schools for the Big Twelve:

                                TCU
                                Utah
                                SMU
                                New Mexico
                                Colorado State (hey, would they be any worse than Baylor in football?)
                                Memphis
                                Houston

                                The good thing is that this is probably the end of the BCS. The bad thing is that it will probably be replaced by something worse.
                                This whole deal doesn't have me feeling too well. I hate the idea of these super-conferences, but it seems that may be the path. Pac-10 is taking the Big 12 South minus Baylor. As a KU grad I am perplexed, but its a possibility that KU and MU join the SEC to remain in a BCS conference if the SEC seeks to add Florida State and another ACC school to get to 16 and keep the divisions easily balanced.

                                I could really care less about Iowa State and Kansas State but I do wish them well since one of their biggest rivals stemming back to the beginning of the 20th century stabbed them mercilessly in the back earlier this week. As a fan of the Big 12 and a Nebraska hater, I hope the Jacks put it to the Cornshuckers even more this fall.
                                "All I know is what I read on the message boards."
                                "Oh, well, there's your problem, then."

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