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  • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

    Originally posted by filbert View Post
    Seems to me that all parties in the situation have worked themselves into no-surrender-no-retreat positions without serious consideration for the actual core mission of the university--a core mission which, you know, if you think about it, probably does not include support for a hockey team.
    Not dissimilar to the SF Events Center situation, is it?
    You know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill. - L. George

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      Grand Forks Herald: ND Attorney General declines to give an opinion: LINK

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        http://www.argusleader.com/article/2...will-forgotten

        I believe Dave Mavity has struck a chord with this Rabbit fan. Living in Rapid City, one has to use caution in even letting the kids play Cowboys and Indians.

        I thought he makes a valid point.

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          Originally posted by MaddogJack View Post
          I thought he makes a valid point.
          I don't.

          Indian names do not preserve Indian culture or Indian history.

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          • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

            Originally posted by MaddogJack View Post
            http://www.argusleader.com/article/2...will-forgotten

            I believe Dave Mavity has struck a chord with this Rabbit fan. Living in Rapid City, one has to use caution in even letting the kids play Cowboys and Indians.

            I thought he makes a valid point.
            He misses the whole point of the matter. When the NCAA issued the ruling they said they had to get tribal approval. The tribe doesn't want to approve the name, and therefore they have to drop it.

            Do I think a select few native american activist are way to gun hoe about getting the native names off of everything, yes, but it is a totally different deal then this.

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              I understand your perspective and respect your opinion(s). Perhaps I brought this dog into the wrong fight.

              My thought of his perspective has more to do with the outcry when we killed Osama Bin Laden and the dismay that was voiced regarding using Geronimo within the codename.

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              • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

                Ouch. Guess the Summit isn't the only conference concerned with UND's nickname.


                Big Sky: ‘UND, we have a problem’



                I recommend you read the letter from Fullerton to Kelley.

                Big Sky letter to UND

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                • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

                  Originally posted by Hammersmith View Post
                  Ouch. Guess the Summit isn't the only conference concerned with UND's nickname.


                  Big Sky: ‘UND, we have a problem’



                  I recommend you read the letter from Fullerton to Kelley.

                  Big Sky letter to UND
                  For once political might, has to take a step down. The ND Legislature WAS mighty and high when they passed this law not knowing that they were screwing themselves. I am rolling on the flour laughing my A$$ OFF.

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                  • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

                    The Big Sky is now conveniently positioned to dump UND -- I wonder if a few of the conference Presidents second-guessed the decision to invite UND after USD went with the Summit League and MVFC. Now they have an "out", one conveniently provided by the ND legislature.

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                      NY Post style headline:

                      BIG SKY MAILS KELLEY A REALITY CHECK.

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                      • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

                        Originally posted by JackJD View Post
                        The Big Sky is now conveniently positioned to dump UND -- I wonder if a few of the conference Presidents second-guessed the decision to invite UND after USD went with the Summit League and MVFC. Now they have an "out", one conveniently provided by the ND legislature.
                        I never thought of it from that angle, but it's very plausible. I am so dumbfounded by the emotions that these UND people have about a simple logo. Hypothethically, if some one in SD could present a good case to change the Jackrabbit to Ramblers or something else, would I really care that much? I sure would not, as the mascot has changed but not the institution that would continue to offer the same quality education is still in tact.

                        It will be interesting to see the reaction out of Senator Al Carlson from Fargo, he is the legislative leader who started the bill. It aint over until its over. Carlson is a big time NDSU supporter too, so was he clairvoyent enough to see what would happen if they passed this goofy law about the logo? I am beginning to think he was.
                        Last edited by Nidaros; 06-11-2011, 06:23 AM.

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                        • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

                          I wonder if Kelley asked the Big Sky to send UND this letter. I think the UND administration is upset with the legislation, and now has formal letter on record to demonstrate the damage the legislation has done.
                          LET'S TAKE A TRIP TO BIRDLAND! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68-6O2mJhMw

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                          • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

                            Originally posted by 2002jack View Post
                            I wonder if Kelley asked the Big Sky to send UND this letter. I think the UND administration is upset with the legislation, and now has formal letter on record to demonstrate the damage the legislation has done.
                            Reading the Fullerton letter, it has taken many by surprise. If you read the Bisonville board and the SiouxSports.com board, you find quite a few surprised reactions. What we don't know are the substances of several private telephone conversations and in person conversations. Most CEO' s do know how their boards are going to react and sometimes they are taken by total surprise. This may be one of those times. Yeah your thoughtful notion might have legs.

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                            • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

                              Originally posted by JackJD View Post
                              The Big Sky is now conveniently positioned to dump UND -- I wonder if a few of the conference Presidents second-guessed the decision to invite UND after USD went with the Summit League and MVFC. Now they have an "out", one conveniently provided by the ND legislature.
                              I said the same thing and agree completely.
                              Disclaimer: This post may contain assumptions and/or opinions related to Jackrabbit Athletics.

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                              • Re: ND legislature and Sioux name

                                Somewhere Tom D. is saying "I told you so"

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