ND legislature and Sioux name

[propar80]

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I can't believe for the life of me that the NCAA would approve UND's transistion to full Division 1 status with this hanging out there. Has the NCAA approved them already? If so that's a really stupid move by the NCAA, IMO.

What a mess...anyone up in Grand Forks know what "fan" is short for??? "FANATIC" or "FANANTICAL".

Go Jacks!!

[NoVaJack]

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and they'll resume using the nickname to "respect the referendum process".... at some point when will some schools not schedule them because of the nickname?

http://www.argusleader.com/article/2...news|text|Home

[SoDakJack]

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I love being a Jackrabbit. I have loved it since I was 5 years old at my first football game. But, I am not so delusional that I would jeopardize not only the athletic department, but the entire school's reputation over something as silly as a logo. I look at the NCAA as the owner of a company and all the schools being their employees. So, if you don't like the way your boss runs things, quit.

Someone up there needs to take a step back and realize that it isn't what's on the jersey that matters, it is the people wearing it. To take opportunities away from 90% of the student athletes over a silly picture just seems like the opposite of what higher education is about.

[bigticket1]

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and they'll resume using the nickname to "respect the referendum process".... at some point when will some schools not schedule them because of the nickname?

http://www.argusleader.com/article/2...news|text|Home

There are already a number of Big Ten and other major conference schools who will not schedule UND. Minnesota won't play them in sports other than hockey,where they must because of conference affiliation.

[rabidrabbit]

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There are already a number of Big Ten and other major conference schools who will not schedule UND. Minnesota won't play them in sports other than hockey,where they must because of conference affiliation.

And IIRC, the Big 10 schools are forming their own hockey conference, and UND will no longer be in the same conference as the Gophs. Then, MN doesn't have to play UND.

IS UND trying to get kicked out of the Big Sky, so that Summit will ask them again after name issue is put to bed again?

[SDSUAlum08]

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I think SDSU should decide not to schedule them as well. Same for NDSU and USD.

[mitchellrabbit]

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I was always curious what was on the news at 4:00 a.m. in the morning. Thanks to Nidaros, I now know that my pillow is more interesting at that time!

I get up at 4am everyday. Walk the treadmill, watch sportscenter, mike and mike, read the online stuff, shower and go to work. Ive been getting up at 4 or 5 am for 30 yrs. Guess i dont know any better. Wouldnt know how to sleep in until 7.

[Nidaros]

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I was listening to KFGO AM 790 this afternoon, the Mike McFeely talk show and one of his guests was Doug Fullerton Commish of the Big Sky, who told the listnening audience that the Big Sky would not tolerate the logo and if they tried to use in athletic events UND would be looking for a new conference. He left them with the impression that the BSC does not need UND and their logo problem. It is ludicous for UND fans to make the arguement that the Big Sky needs UND. The green and white folks seem to have an over-evaluation of self worth in the eyes of the Big Sky. Fullerton went on to say that how UND fans view the NCAA as some kind of a overeaching government agency is folly and that the NCAA is a membership organization. If you can not accept the rules then you should not belong.

My take is that down the road, UND might be the largest member of NAIA if they retain the logo and its useage. I dont think Standing Rock is going to approve the useage anytime soon.

[Nidaros]

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I can't believe for the life of me that the NCAA would approve UND's transistion to full Division 1 status with this hanging out there. Has the NCAA approved them already? If so that's a really stupid move by the NCAA, IMO.

What a mess...anyone up in Grand Forks know what "fan" is short for??? "FANATIC" or "FANANTICAL".

Go Jacks!!

If I am correct in my chonology of events, when UND was accepted for NCAA D1 membership, they were working under the assumption that UND would get the approval from both Standing Rock and Spirit Lake tribes to use the Sioux Logo. They received the approval from Spirit Lake but did not get approval from Standing Rock by Aug 2009 deadline. In the mean time the legislature got involved and passed a law contrary to the agreement between the NCAA and the Attorney Gen Wayne Stenjeim agreed. UND orginally sued the NCAA in order to use the logo. Then a subsequent meeting with the NCAA this summer in Indianapolis, the NCAA told the ND officals that it would abid with the agreement with Stenjeim and so the ND officals returned to ND with their tails between their legs. This fall they held a special session of the legislature and rescinded the law passed last spring requiring UND to use the Sioux Logo. Now a slimmy lawyer name Soderstom has worked with the Spirit Lake natives and in the background a large contingent of alums in starting a petition to get it on the June ballot. Its a wierd issue to say the least.

[LakeJack]

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http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/58859/

[MaddogJack]

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U. N. Delusional. I was just reading their fan board and WOW.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything that happens from here on out. I think the US Hockey association should be a little more proactive with head injuries and hockey. They don't reason very well.

[RabbitObsessed]

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U. N. Delusional. I was just reading their fan board and WOW.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything that happens from here on out. I think the US Hockey association should be a little more proactive with head injuries and hockey. They don't reason very well.

Like this?

Anything would be nice if we got the sioux. I loved the division two days oer our division one days anyway.

[Nidaros]

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I was always curious what was on the news at 4:00 a.m. in the morning. Thanks to Nidaros, I now know that my pillow is more interesting at that time!

I slow in responding to your post, but you must be one of the lucky ones who does not have sleep apena. With my machine setting at 18, I still have problems waking up at 4:00 am. Did it again this morning. So had some time to respond. Yeah its crazy in ND now that logo is back on the front burner.

[KUlawJack]

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I think SDSU should decide not to schedule them as well. Same for NDSU and USD.

I agree with this. Maybe we have a clause in our contract for the return game in 2013, something like, we will only come play if the logo is retired. That would be nice.

I've kept abreast of this fiasco and cannot believe how shortsighted and/or narrow-minded the hockey fans seem to be.

[JackJD]

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I have followed the UND name/logo controversy for years. The rank and file UND fans have to be physically ill over news reports in the past couple of days including interviews with the Big Sky Commissioner, Fullerton.

I would be extremely upset if the Summit League sniffed at UND. (There's always background chatter that if they left the Big Sky, they'd try for admission to the Summit League).