ND legislature and Sioux name

[Nidaros]

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So does this post count as a future post since your last one? I hope you didnt just ban yourself.

Just myself, you keep on commenting as you see fit on this topic, I am done.

[MaddogJack]

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Do you all think the majority of Sioux fans are anxiously awaiting "pie" on this nickname issue - or is there a moral majority that wants to fight it to the end?

Me, I'm hoping that Thursday - they all get their fill of pie.

[Theee Catrabbit]

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It just keeps going and going and.....

http://www.grandforksherald.com/even...cle/id/222740/

[OKC_Poke]

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Could we just kick the State of North Dakota out of the Union? Might be the ONLY way to end the madness!!!

[JackJD]

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Ahh, don't worry. In 10 years this will have just blown over.

10 years.

[Prairiehaas]

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Really?

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[JackJD]

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The North Dakota Secretary of State has approved the forms of two petitions for reinstating the "Fighting Sioux" nickname for UND sports.
http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/343721/

Two different petitions. Anyone confused? From the story linked above:

One asks for a constitutional amendment to require UND to keep the Fighting Sioux nickname. Supporters have to turn in about 27,000 petition signatures by Aug. 8 to put the issue on the ballot in November 2012.

The second petition would reverse the Legislature's decision to let UND drop the nickname. That petition needs more than 13,000 names by Feb. 7.

[Hammersmith]

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The North Dakota Secretary of State has approved the forms of two petitions for reinstating the "Fighting Sioux" nickname for UND sports.
http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/343721/

Two different petitions. Anyone confused? From the story linked above:

One asks for a constitutional amendment to require UND to keep the Fighting Sioux nickname. Supporters have to turn in about 27,000 petition signatures by Aug. 8 to put the issue on the ballot in November 2012.

The second petition would reverse the Legislature's decision to let UND drop the nickname. That petition needs more than 13,000 names by Feb. 7.

Two different petitions due to the time frame. The deadline to repeal the legislature's law is Feb 7. To repeal it, they need 13,000 names. A month and a half is a pretty tight window for that, so they're hedging their bets and running a second petition at the same time. The second petition is intended to write the Fighting Sioux nickname into the state constitution. To get this amendment onto the general ballot, they will need twice the number of names(27k), but will have six more months to complete the work.

[RowdyRabbit]

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All I know is I would be PISSED OFF, if the SD Government was wasting as much time and money on something as stupid as a University Nickname, which they should really have no say in anyway, as far as I'm concerned.

[JackJD]

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All I know is I would be PISSED OFF, if the SD Government was wasting as much time and money on something as stupid as a University Nickname, which they should really have no say in anyway, as far as I'm concerned.

While I agree with the sentiment expressed, keep in mind the most recent activity is not the ND government...the petition drives are by citizens and groups of citizens. Those same citizens obviously do not think the UND nickname is a stupid topic. So I come down to a slightly different conclusion: The people who keep the nickname issue alive are nuts and it would tick me off if they cause any more state resources to be spent on this subject.

[JimmyJack]

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Wow. Of course if they succeed and the nickname stays and the university is tossed out of the Big Sky (as expected), they'll be destroying the UND athletic programs, harming hundreds of current and potential student athletes, and damaging the reputation of the university. But they'll have their stupid nickname. They can go sit in the empty Alerus Center and the Betty and admire the logo wishing there were some games going on there.

[bigticket1]

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While I agree with the sentiment expressed, keep in mind the most recent activity is not the ND government...the petition drives are by citizens and groups of citizens. Those same citizens obviously do not think the UND nickname is a stupid topic. So I come down to a slightly different conclusion: The people who keep the nickname issue alive are nuts and it would tick me off if they cause any more state resources to be spent on this subject.

You don't think that some of the wingnuts in the ND legislature aren't involved in this,albeit behind the scenes ?

[joeboo22]

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I have a few friends from North Dakota that a year or 2 ago were dead against the name change, and today when I asked them about this they shook there heads and said enough is enough, just change it already.

[JackJD]

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You don't think that some of the wingnuts in the ND legislature aren't involved in this,albeit behind the scenes ?

Yeah, you're probably right.

What seems to be totally lost is the fact that the issue -- at least as far as the NCAA is concerned -- went to court and a settlement was reached which was approved by the court in a judgment resolving the litigation. End of story as far as the NCAA is concerned (and it should be the end -- we have to have some finality or people will just come up with new ways to keep the issue "alive" (like, what they're doing right now?)

[Nidaros]

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Yeah, you're probably right.

What seems to be totally lost is the fact that the issue -- at least as far as the NCAA is concerned -- went to court and a settlement was reached which was approved by the court in a judgment resolving the litigation. End of story as far as the NCAA is concerned (and it should be the end -- we have to have some finality or people will just come up with new ways to keep the issue "alive" (like, what they're doing right now?)

I am breaking my pledge of not commenting on this thread by offering this bit of information. The NCAA is sending representatives to GF next week to try and work some of the points of difference out. Like the removal of the logos imbedded into granite floors and outside the building there are largo logos that might have to come down. Earl Striden, a Board of Directors of the Ralph Englestad Corporation said they would not spend one penny towards removal of the logos. Having this facility on a privately owned land and not part of the university, creates some different issues that the NCAA has never faced before.

JackJD has a point about the legal process, but it might come down to allowing the Ralph to be used for NCAA sanctioned events.