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  • #76
    Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

    NDSU is a scrappy team. They did what you do when you're overmatched: You try to be the aggressor, to be more physical and take the other team out of their routine. Good for them. Katie Birkel, #5, is a very tough player. I was impressed with her toughness and effort, although she did commit a lot of turnovers. I think NDSU has a solid new coach. I'd say they're a program on the upswing after a couple of un-NDSU-like years.

    The fact that the Jacks could play perhaps their worst game at home this year and still come away with a 16-point win against a solid conference foe is a good sign.

    The crowd was great, but the nature of the game surely limited the crowd's effect on things. Lastly, I'd like to have that referee crew every game. Sure, you could argue with some of their calls (letting Rotert get slammed to the floor wasn't good) but generally, they let them play. I much prefer that to games with some Summit crews that become free throw shooting contests.
    Holy nutmeg!

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    • #77
      Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

      Was a physical game, but it lacked the energy and plays to get the crowd into it. Agree that we thought the result was never in question. It wasn't if, but when.

      Thought it took SDSU too long to figure out that every time they drove that NDSU would swarm around them. Instead of kicking out they would force bad shots. Eventually they did adjust.

      Outside shooting was very flat. Should be rare that Jill Young will miss that many, especially the wide open looks. Still nice to know we can win with 30% shooting.

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      • #78
        Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

        Who saw the student in the 2nd half brick the free throw shot and then miss the second one? We demand he come back for an encore.

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        Last edited by 123456; 01-25-2009, 12:17 AM.

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        • #79
          Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

          Originally posted by JimmyJack View Post
          NDSU is a scrappy team. They did what you do when you're overmatched: You try to be the aggressor, to be more physical and take the other team out of their routine. Good for them. Katie Birkel, #5, is a very tough player. I was impressed with her toughness and effort, although she did commit a lot of turnovers. I think NDSU has a solid new coach. I'd say they're a program on the upswing after a couple of un-NDSU-like years.

          The fact that the Jacks could play perhaps their worst game at home this year and still come away with a 16-point win against a solid conference foe is a good sign.

          The crowd was great, but the nature of the game surely limited the crowd's effect on things. Lastly, I'd like to have that referee crew every game. Sure, you could argue with some of their calls (letting Rotert get slammed to the floor wasn't good) but generally, they let them play. I much prefer that to games with some Summit crews that become free throw shooting contests.
          I mostly agree with JJ. Driving home from the game, I thought that SDSU is in a better position to make adjustments for the next game with NDSU at BSA. NDSU threw everything they could muster at SDSU and their defense had a lot to do with what some have called sloppy play, the poor shooting percentage etc. NDSU may have figured out the best way to deal with the Jackrabbits. Perhaps they should not make any significant changes in their game plan. The Jackrabbits, on the other hand, can make lots of adjustments.

          Nice crowd but we all sorta sat around waiting for the Jackrabbits to go on one of their rolls...just didn't really happen so the crowd seemed a little subdued.

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          • #80
            Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

            Originally posted by bisonbacker View Post
            Just remember who owns the overall record in this series both football and basketball (womens).
            Who has the better record in head to head football and MBB contests: NDSU or UND?


            Last edited by zooropa; 01-25-2009, 04:35 AM.

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            • #81
              Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

              I believe the NDSU coach proved her worth. She took her beat up team into our house and made a game of it.

              In an aside, it wasn't a fun game to watch at all. If SDSU was looking to make a bunch of new fans across the region via the television broadcast, well, I'm not sure that happened.

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              • #82
                Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

                Originally posted by JackJD View Post
                NDSU may have figured out the best way to deal with the Jackrabbits.
                Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Oakland figured out the best way to deal with the Jackrabbits?

                IMO, the Jacks were probably not ready for the physical style of play that NDSU brought. They haven't faced a really physical 'grind it out' team since Centenary back at the beginning of December.

                Maybe they were playing with a men's ball too......

                BTW: TV ragged on the refs again in his blog. This is an area that simply must be addressed.

                ----

                But this was the last of the 'surprises' Starting with Oakland next Saturday it will be familiar faces the rest of the year.

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                • #83
                  Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

                  So the Bison were tough? Not really in my estimation...what was tough for the Jacks was one of those rare nights when the ball doesn't want to go in the hoop. You will not see the Jacks shoot 29% (first half) very often if ever again this season. And it wasn't like they were contested. Stacie's miss on a wide open layup, Jill Young getting five good looks and missing every one, Kristin Rotert not hitting.

                  That doesn't mean I'm slamming the Bison...Katie Birkel is a very good player for them (but three consecutive TO's in three times down the floor was a freshman thing). And a few juniors that will be adequate next year. They DO play hard, physical defense and get credit there, but again, we got a large number of open looks against it, but couldn't knock them down.

                  Every team that comes at us now is gunning for their best game, and Oakland will be no exception. That will be a big game!

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                  • #84
                    Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

                    From the Fargo Forum;

                    Women's basketball: SDSU beats NDSU for 7th straight time

                    It wasn't a blowout, but for North Dakota State's women's basketball team, it was a seventh straight loss to rival South Dakota State.
                    http://www.inforum.com/event/article.../group/Sports/


                    Dave Kolpack's column in the Fargo Forum

                    SDSU women get attention: Jackrabbits catch eye of national media

                    The North Dakota State at South Dakota State women’s basketball game tonight will reach several thousand homes via television. For the Jackrabbits, that’s just a snippet of the publicity they’ve gotten this year.

                    http://www.inforum.com/event/article.../group/Sports/
                    An ardent supporter of the hometown team should go to a game prepared to take offense, no matter what happens.Robert Benchley
                    US actor, author, & humorist (1889 - 1945)

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                    • #85
                      Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

                      Just my two cents, I noticed that the big players for the Bison seem to do a very good job defending the basket. Our drives and shots were often rushed and yep that made us shot 29per cent. If this new coach is a Defense hawk, then we might have several close contests. I don't know who is on their injured list besides Plucker from Parker SD, but I think some of those like#31 Samuelson might not have gotten that much playing time if they were at full strength. The new coach seems to have a good background, so our wins might come harder down the road. Lets see what happens.

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                      • #86
                        Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

                        A couple of very complimentary articles in the Argus today. One of course by Terry V and most surprisingly one by Stu! Yes, Stu. Although it was not the most attractive game to watch it was still a win and an important win. Give the Lady Bison credit. Given the players they had available they played hard / physical basketball. But the Jacks simply had to much talent and depth.

                        By the way Stu. The Jacks record is now 19 - 2 not 17 - 2. After you win a game you add one to the win total not subtract one. Albeit a slip up by Stu the article was positive about the Jacks season and the fan support.

                        Good win ladies. Bring on the Bears from Oakland for the pork classic.

                        GBGBGJ

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                        • #87
                          Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

                          I thought the offense was stagnant at times, too many incomplete drives to the basket , surrounded by tree's throwing up a prayer hoping for someone to hack your arm, unable to kick it back outside.
                          They've got to find a way to spread out the defense to create passing lanes or drive all the way to the hoop.Am i being overly critical,after all, they won the game by 16 points despite struggling . That fact is pretty amazing to me also.I guess if the win isn't pretty someone will alway's find fault, perfection is hard to accomplish in basketball.
                          Did I slap myself around enough for being overly critical?Hope so, it hurts!
                          Last edited by shinman; 01-25-2009, 04:13 PM.

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                          • #88
                            Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

                            Originally posted by shinman View Post
                            I thought the offense was stagnant at times, too many incomplete drives to the basket , surrounded by tree's throwing up a prayer hoping for someone to hack your arm, unable to kick it back outside.
                            They've got to find a way to spread out the defense to create passing lanes or drive all the way to the hoop.Am i being overly critical,after all, they won the game by 16 points despite struggling . That fact is pretty amazing to me also.I guess if the win isn't pretty someone will alway's find fault, perfection is hard to accomplish in basketball.
                            Jacks' height next year (Sunnarborg a likely starter with Westegard (sp)? coming off the bench) will be a better match against the Bison.

                            Bison appear to be recruiting size, so we may end up having to draw them out to the perimeter to get lanes open-------something that the Jacks probably could've done last night if they'd been prepared for the Bison's style of play (I don't think they were).

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                            • #89
                              Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

                              Thinking about the game today at work I came up with this. As Ketty said the team was working in third gear and you could kind of see it in the game in retrospect. Passes inside were not well handled causing the girl with the ball to have to dribble or start spinning to find an opening which let the bison get two or three girls on the ball handler and either tie her up or cause a rushed shot. Against OU the passes will have to be more crisp and the inside girls need to get better position at the basket for a bang bang play with no dribble and a quick shot before OU can recover and get two or three girls to cover the ball handler. Carnago for OU is tall and has long arms and either leads the league in blocked shots or is pretty close to it. They will need to get her out of position for a good inside game. I ain't a coach but I played one in my dreams.

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                              • #90
                                Re: A January Stampede of the Bison

                                Originally posted by SturgisJeff View Post
                                Thinking about the game today at work I came up with this. As Ketty said the team was working in third gear and you could kind of see it in the game in retrospect. Passes inside were not well handled causing the girl with the ball to have to dribble or start spinning to find an opening which let the bison get two or three girls on the ball handler and either tie her up or cause a rushed shot. Against OU the passes will have to be more crisp and the inside girls need to get better position at the basket for a bang bang play with no dribble and a quick shot before OU can recover and get two or three girls to cover the ball handler. Carnago for OU is tall and has long arms and either leads the league in blocked shots or is pretty close to it. They will need to get her out of position for a good inside game. I ain't a coach but I played one in my dreams.
                                agree'd, they have to know where Carnago is at all times , because it seems to fire them up when she gets a lot of blocks, of course you can't let one player dictate your game, i'm confusing myself againGlad i'm not a coach, way too much stuff to think about.

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