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[UWMandSDSU]

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This whole thing got me thinking that someone should award a trophy to the best mid-major team of the year.

They have a Mens BBall top 25 mid-major poll that has been around for 10 years.

http://www.collegeinsider.com/mmpoll/

I am not aware of a Women's or not. But I agree we will always be the Cinderella. Gonzaga and Butler will always be considered a Cinderella and look how good both of those teams have faired in the Big Dance.

[leeshajo]

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Look as far as I'm concerned, we will always be the David in the NCAA tourney. We will also always be the Cinderella. In men's BB, Gonzaga is still the David fighting against the Goliath's and they have plenty of notches in their belts. It is all about the little guy defeating the big guy. Cinderella turning into a princess and then when they lose, the hour will turn 12 o'clock midnight and the glass slipper will come off and we will return to being Cinderella.

This whole thing got me thinking that someone should award a trophy to the best mid-major team of the year. For the men, they could award the David trophy and make it resemble the statue of David. This award would go the the men's team that slayed the biggest opponent or made it the furthest in post season. It could be voted on. Last year Davidson probably would have won or Fresno St. in baseball and maybe this year you look at Utah and what they did in football.

For the women's teams you could give a trophy with a glass slipper and it would go to the team that went the furthest in post season. Marist probably would have won last year. If ESPN picked up on it, they could make it a part of the ESPY awards.

OK, sorry for the thread drift, I got carried away their for a moment.

the only thing with this is, it reinforces the belief that the "big six" are better conferences... I don't think they are anymore... they have more history behind their programs, granted, but I think the days of there being such a separation in talent is going to disappear... it already is.

Look at the season so far... Other than UCONN can you say there are a top 10 teams that are arms and legs above everyone else???

I will be curious to see how Maryland and UNC play this week... that to me will tell me more about how strong the "elite" teams at the top of the polls are just because we can compare against what Maryland did against the jacks...

Personally I hope Maryland goes out and chomps um

[JimmyJack]

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Actually the writer of this story is a Minneapolis-based stringer, so he should know where Sioux Falls is at and get to Brookings fairly easily! You can bet that a story in the Times is pretty big in being noticed by a lot of the top sports reporters around the country (and maybe who are AP Poll voters!). It surely won't hurt!!!

In 1992, I covered the SD Presidential Primary for the Argus. It was then the first primary after the Iowa caucuses, so all the candidates and the big shot media spent a lot of time here. Several times that week, the New York Times datelined its stories coming out of Sioux Falls as coming from "SIOUX CITY, SOUTH DAKOTA". I mentioned it to the Times reporters and they didn't seem to care much. That's what you get from the flyover media. They see us as caricatures. They view this part of the country as a huge, generic "heartland" and really don't care to know anything more about it.

Bringing it back to the topic at hand: That's why it's a very good thing that a Times stringer from nearby is doing this story.

[KUlawJack]

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That's what you get from the flyover media. They see us as caricatures. They view this part of the country as a huge, generic "heartland" and really don't care to know anything more about it.

As the saying goes from people in New York, "If it isn't NY or L.A. then its Kentucky."

[Nidaros]

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As the saying goes from people in New York, "If it isn't NY or L.A. then its Kentucky."

You got it. One of the things that cracked me up when listening to Chicago Radio WGN, and a guy named Wally Philips, was people calling to know what the weather would be since they were driving way out west to Iowa City. Educating our neighboers to the east of us is a job.

[NorCalJack]

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the only thing with this is, it reinforces the belief that the "big six" are better conferences...

Well don't kid yourself, there is a big difference between the "big six" conferences and most everyone else. You really can't compare the Summit League schedule to the Big 12 schedule or SEC

Other than UCONN can you say there are a top 10 teams that are arms and legs above everyone else???

Well last year of the teams that made the Sweet 16, 14 of those teams came from the "big six" conferences. The other two teams were Old Dominion and George Washington. Old Dominion has made numerous runs in the NCAA tourney and did win once. George Washington University is from the A-10 conference is probably as close to a "big six" conference as you can get.

Take Marist for example, they are from the MAAC conference and prior to Marist making the Sweet 16 in 2007, the conference had been 0-21 in tourney play.

At this point we should just be estatic about getting into the Big Dance. Winning one game will be a very very difficult and rewarding just the same.

Go State!!!
Go Jacks!!!

[NoVaJack]

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east coast coverage , great, let's really wow em with a big win against NDSU.I really get the sense that everyone really wants a Cinderella team to root for in this years NCAA tournement.Anyone else feel this way?
Even some yotes wishing the team well,what's the world coming to?

Cindarella is George Mason men a few years back. Our women are more like Gonzaga men, a constant mid-major power.

[BitsTD]

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Our women are more like Gonzaga men, a constant mid-major power.

With all due respect to you and your zeal for Jackrabbit athletics I don't think we have been around long enough to be called constant anything. Give it 5-10 years and then we will see what happens. I hope you are right.

[SturgisJeff]

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The article. NY Times. Head west from Minneapolis and you come upon the town of Brookings, North Dakota, population 15,000 and home of an up and coming womens basketball team , the Jackrabbits. In their fifth year of Division I basketball, this team of farmgirls from.......

Even in Minneapolis they have problems with getting the Dakota's right.

[Jacks-02]

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The article. NY Times. Head west from Minneapolis and you come upon the town of Brookings, North Dakota, population 15,000 and home of an up and coming womens basketball team , the Jackrabbits. In their fifth year of Division I basketball, this team of farmgirls from.......

Even in Minneapolis they have problems with getting the Dakota's right.

Wow, don't they reference South Dakota State anywhere in the article, its really not that hard to understand is it? Does North and South Caronila have this problem too?

[SturgisJeff]

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That wasn't the real story. Just my interpretation of what some writer from the east would likely write about us.

[NoVaJack]

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With all due respect to you and your zeal for Jackrabbit athletics I don't think we have been around long enough to be called constant anything. Give it 5-10 years and then we will see what happens. I hope you are right.

Since switch to D-1

21-7
19-9 NIT
25-6 NIT
17-2 and counting.

That's four years of the 5-10 you speak of.
I don't think we'll sneak up on anyone in the tournament was the point. Cindarellas by definition do.

[filbert]

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Since switch to D-1

21-7
19-9 NIT
25-6 NIT
17-2 and counting.

That's four years of the 5-10 you speak of.
I don't think we'll sneak up on anyone in the tournament was the point. Cindarellas by definition do.

From of what I know about discussions throughout D-I women's basketball, South Dakota State University isn't going to sneak up on anyone any more. We've got a reputation, and it's a good one.

[Jacks#1Fan]

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Nitpicking...but just so we are all on the same page (and not with Tyler Merriam who kept saying Monday night we are 17-2), we are now at 18-2 and counting. Like another poster said...slow day at the office (and since I'm retired, that means at home!)

[JackJD]

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I've read that the NY Times reporter was going to be at the NDSU game. That's a shame because the game wasn't representative of what the Jackrabbits do other than find ways to win in all but two contests this year. The crowd was subdued, too.