Jacks in 3rd all alone...

[goon]

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I think it looks like SDSU won't get a shot at NDSU unless it's in the championship game. That's a shame because I'm with most of you that would like to see it happen. I want to see how this game would be handled by the team. I still can't believe that Moss and both Callahans fouled out like they did. Griffan only played about 12 minutes. I'm thinking that this would be the "last shot" at NDSU(by Kai, Garrett and Mark) but then again the game in Frost was the 1st "last shot" and we saw how that turned out.
NDSU's seniors last year, were just better than our team. They were built for the run they had last year. This should have been our year. I just didn't see the fire this year that I thought this team would have.

You said it, the fire and who wanted it more. NDSU made it obvious they wanted to win those games more then us, but looking at over all confrence standing we are prolly the better team. Being the better team means nothing if you cant play hard enough to win those games. I still think no matter what, we had 3 foul out in regulation and NDSU had to get 2 lucky 3 pointers to have a chance so I think they got lucky. It will be our turn soon enough.

[91jack]

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I agree, They were better for a few years now we should be able to win these games and I want nothing more then to play NDSU again. Knocking them out of the tourny would be great and I would not care what round it would be. I think they are the last team we have not beaten yet in confrence and its time we do, we got the road wins off our back now its time to move forward again and show NDSU the start of a new era.

I think it looks like SDSU won't get a shot at NDSU unless it's in the championship game. That's a shame because I'm with most of you that would like to see it happen. I want to see how this game would be handled by the team. I still can't believe that Moss and both Callahans fouled out like they did. Griffan only played about 12 minutes. I'm thinking that this would be the "last shot" at NDSU(by Kai, Garrett and Mark) but then again the game in Frost was the 1st "last shot" and we saw how that turned out.
NDSU's seniors last year, were just better than our team. They were built for the run they had last year. This should have been our year. I just didn't see the fire this year that I thought this team would have.

[Nidaros]

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I have high regards for Jim Molinari and think he will get that program turned around. As depressing as I find Macomb, at least it's a residential school and could turn into a pretty good rival for the Jacks.

Ray Meyer and son Joey would not have been so hardly regarded at De Paul in the mid eighties if they had not had Jim Molinari doing all the leg work on recruiting, There were some individuals that made the NBA, and all there names escape me, but Jim had a big hand in recruiting all of them. I would agree, we cant take him lightly and maybe it appears something is starting work for WIU.

[drleiferman]

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the poor jacks just can't pull out a win agains ndsu...they have been in prime position to win the past 3 matchups and have fallen short. You better believe Kai Williams and Callahan won't let that happen if they see eachother in the playoffs

[Grizzled_Jack]

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Which is why I warn people that Western Illinois is playing pretty well--they've won four in a row:
at Oral Roberts 64-62
at Centenary 64-55
Southern Utah 63-49
UMKC 64-59

They're playing really good defense . . .

I have high regards for Jim Molinari and think he will get that program turned around. As depressing as I find Macomb, at least it's a residential school and could turn into a pretty good rival for the Jacks.

[filbert]

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Yep all you have to do is win one game and you're in the 4/5 game.

Which is why I warn people that Western Illinois is playing pretty well--they've won four in a row:
at Oral Roberts 64-62
at Centenary 64-55
Southern Utah 63-49
UMKC 64-59

They're playing really good defense . . .

[TeaJackrabbit]

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Im not sure its possible for us to play NDSU right away . IPFW is guaranteed at worse, a tie with NDSU and with their two wins against the bison, they would finish higher. So if we are the 4 seed, the bison wont be the 5 seed A 3 way tie between SDSU, IPFW and NDSU, i think would give us the 6 seed? Our record against NDSU and IPFW is 1-3, NDSU against us and IPFW is 2-2 and IPFW against NDSU and us is 3-1. So if im reading the tie breakers right, IPFW would be 4th seed, NDSU 5th seed and SDSU 6th , in a 3 way tie. We could still tie for 3rd with Oral Roberts if they lose their last two and we win our last two. But i believe Oral Roberts would get the 3rd seed over us.

If we (9-7) go 0-2 and NDSU (7-9) goes 2-0 they hold the tiebreaker over us so suddenly we're the 6 seed and facing ORU. IPFW (9-9) would play NDSU (9-9) in the 4/5 game.

If we just win against WIU on Thursday we will be 10-7 and will be guaranteed the 4/5 game vs. IPFW in the tourney.

If NDSU loses only once we are guaranteed the 4/5 game against IPFW.

My take:

Sat 6PM: OU 86 UMKC 68
Sat 8PM: IUPUI 72 WIU 53
Sun 6PM: SDSU 74 IPFW 72
Sun 8PM: ORU 68 NDSU 61

Mon 6PM: OU 81 SDSU 72
Mon 8PM: IUPUI 76 ORU 70

Tues: OU 86 IUPUI 78

[ndsubison1]

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If we win one of our last two games, I think we will be the 4th seed. IPFW has one game left at Oakland. We will proibably play IPFW in the first round.

Yep all you have to do is win one game and you're in the 4/5 game.

[ndsubison1]

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Im not sure its possible for us to play NDSU right away . IPFW is guaranteed at worse, a tie with NDSU and with their two wins against the bison, they would finish higher. So if we are the 4 seed, the bison wont be the 5 seed A 3 way tie between SDSU, IPFW and NDSU, i think would give us the 6 seed? Our record against NDSU and IPFW is 1-3, NDSU against us and IPFW is 2-2 and IPFW against NDSU and us is 3-1. So if im reading the tie breakers right, IPFW would be 4th seed, NDSU 5th seed and SDSU 6th , in a 3 way tie. We could still tie for 3rd with Oral Roberts if they lose their last two and we win our last two. But i believe Oral Roberts would get the 3rd seed over us.

If NDSU wins out, and the Jacks lose both, NDSU will be the 5th seed. But it's looking like NDSU will be the 6 seed. I dont see you guys losing to WIU

[RowdyRabbit]

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[QUOTE=mitchellrabbit;147662]Im not sure its possible for us to play NDSU right away . QUOTE]

This could very well be, I haven't had time to break down the seeding possibilities myself, so thanks.

[slosho]

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If we win one of our last two games, I think we will be the 4th seed. IPFW has one game left at Oakland. We will proibably play IPFW in the first round.

Well that will please filbert...(sarcasm)

Actually if we would win he would likely be very happy as we would send them packing!

[22jack]

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If we win one of our last two games, I think we will be the 4th seed. IPFW has one game left at Oakland. We will proibably play IPFW in the first round.

[mitchellrabbit]

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I think a simple solution to that problem is in the admin's hands...I know on Bisonville (eek, am I really comparing bisonville to sdsufans?) the screen name of the person who reps you is automatically shown. I'd love it if that were done here.

The random "ur an idiot" neg rep I got the other day from the NDSU day thread just doesn't do it for me.

As for the tournament. I'd like to see the Jacks take on NDSU right off the bat.

Im not sure its possible for us to play NDSU right away . IPFW is guaranteed at worse, a tie with NDSU and with their two wins against the bison, they would finish higher. So if we are the 4 seed, the bison wont be the 5 seed A 3 way tie between SDSU, IPFW and NDSU, i think would give us the 6 seed? Our record against NDSU and IPFW is 1-3, NDSU against us and IPFW is 2-2 and IPFW against NDSU and us is 3-1. So if im reading the tie breakers right, IPFW would be 4th seed, NDSU 5th seed and SDSU 6th , in a 3 way tie. We could still tie for 3rd with Oral Roberts if they lose their last two and we win our last two. But i believe Oral Roberts would get the 3rd seed over us.

[RowdyRabbit]

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Some clown gave me negative rep points for starting this thread. Maybe he prefers a ghost town board such as the UMKC or Oakland BOREDS. Leave your name next time nancy!

I think a simple solution to that problem is in the admin's hands...I know on Bisonville (eek, am I really comparing bisonville to sdsufans?) the screen name of the person who reps you is automatically shown. I'd love it if that were done here.

The random "ur an idiot" neg rep I got the other day from the NDSU day thread just doesn't do it for me.

As for the tournament. I'd like to see the Jacks take on NDSU right off the bat.

[Nidaros]

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I hope we get the chance to play the Bison again. I just don't buy into this "they've got our number" crappola.

The last few years they were a better team, period. This year, I think we have demonstrated that we have a more talented team but we haven't closed the deal. I give NDSU all the credit for winning the two games. They hung in there and we opened the door.

My reasoning comes from two places. First, if we can't beat the Bison then we probably aren't going to beat anybody else in SF. Sure, we may match up better with other teams but if we play well we beat them. Second, if we draw them and beat them what a confidence boost that would be going into the next round(s).

The only monkey left for this team is to beat the Bison. I hope we get the chance!

GB, GB, GJ!

SUPERBUNNY

I too would like a NDSU men's bb rematch in the Summit. It likely to be like the Wrestling deuel where Bucky claimed the Jacks grapplers did not belong on his mat, BUT WE BEAT THE BISON. Our chances in the Summit Tourney are good.