Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

[couger71]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

Yeah, and several of them were out part of the preceding week with the flu.

In fact, it's probably a good thing this was the travel partner week, giving the team Thursday night off.

Did the Bison women have the flu this week too?

Does anyone know who had the FLU for sure? I have never heard anything about the flu except on this message board. Nothing from TV or Nagy. Maybe I missed it if they did. Sry

Some are calling out AC for "sleeping" .... did he have the flu?

[filbert]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

Does anyone know who had the FLU for sure? I have never heard anything about the flu except on this message board. Nothing from TV or Nagy. Maybe I missed it if they did. Sry

Some are calling out AC for "sleeping" .... did he have the flu?

TV mentioned it on his blog. It was mentioned on the radio broadcast . . . Merriam made a comment towards the end of the game that being sick was the reason Fiegen wasn't playing.

[NoVaJack]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

Zoo, it's clear TJBison does not know the difference between D1 and D2 and is pretty much delusional about the state of NDSU vs. SDSU right now.

[filbert]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

Apropos to this discussion:

In year seven at Kansas, Bill Self probably thought he was done having to explain his defensive philosophy.

If Bill Self is having trouble getting his guys to play his kind of defense at Kansas . . . (fill in the blank)

The fact remains that with college athletics, you're talking about 18 to 22-year-old young adults--kids, basically. They're still learning how to be disciplined, motivated adults. They have good days and bad days.

Now, it's a bit disheartening that now, the first year that the Jacks have "senior leadership," that leadership was seemingly completely absent Friday night during the second half.

But I remain hopeful that the guys on the team--especially the underclassmen-- have the capacity to learn and grow and take the correct lessons from this experience (I almost typed "debacle" there) and use it to continue to get better. The lesson is

"play as hard as you can for all 40 minutes or YOU WILL GET BEATEN by any conference opponent."

It was a bad half of basketball, but it wasn't a disaster if the proper lessons are learned, IMHO.

[bub94]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

I'm just curious, as you called the flu an 'excuse' as opposed to admitting that the NDSU women's team is not up to scratch vs. the SDSU women.

Actually, he was skipping the possible flu excuse the men's team had for looking a little sluggish and beat down. He flat out admitted the NDSU women's team isn't as good as SDSU. You just jumped on his back for no reason. With the amount of minutes our main players are used to seeing for the men's team, I really don't think they were healthy. When do you see Garrett on the bench with 3 minutes left in the game? This guy is used to playing a ton of minutes. It still counts as a win for the NDSU men. Time to move on. And this thread is about SDSU basketball.

[zooropa]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

.in Mens bball we have been better there no question

Pick and choose your spots, TJ...

I don't think any rational Jacks fan would argue that the D2 Jacks or early D1 Jacks were better than the Bison.

But no rational Bison fan should be horn tooting about their D2 MBB program either.

[zooropa]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

You just jumped on his back for no reason.

au contraire.

I merely asked if winning the head to head meant that the '07 Bison were worse than the '07 Jacks in football, seeings how he was implying (and later asserted outright) that this year's Bison MBB program was better than the Jacks--using the head to head as the basis.

Seems a reasonable question.

[filbert]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

A followup to my previous link:

Watch enough big-time college ball, and you realize that playing hard isn’t easy. Only a select few can pull it off every game, on those days when the air in the arena isn’t hot and thick and desperate, when the reason to care isn’t obvious. Morningstar and Reed can summon the inner-fire more consistently than most, and Saturday was one of their better days. They combined for 11 floor burns — an obscure stat tallied on the back page of each game’s official statistics that measures a quality that Morris is only beginning to understand: Guts.

Emphasis mine.

I find it very instructive to closely follow other college basketball programs from here in KC: Kansas, Missouri, K-State, UMKC. It provides perspective that you can't get if you're focusing only on one program at one school . . .

I think you can validly criticize Nagy for going too far in downplaying the rivalry aspect of the NDSU game--especially because that attitude clearly was reflected by his team's play. I don't think it's necessarily a permanent condition, however.

[tjbison]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

Zoo, it's clear TJBison does not know the difference between D1 and D2 and is pretty much delusional about the state of NDSU vs. SDSU right now.

Please explain?? Mens Bball has won 7 straight, Our womens team isn't on par with your womens team, and according to zoopaloopas theory that better records prove better teams our FB team has been better 9 of the 12 past years?? whats so misunderstood??

Zoopy is the one who has been twisting and turning this into an argument becuase he is a internet tough guy, his only basis on message boards is to argue, he did it on our board and here. There is absolutly no discussion with him

[tjbison]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

Pick and choose your spots, TJ...

I don't think any rational Jacks fan would argue that the D2 Jacks or early D1 Jacks were better than the Bison.

But no rational Bison fan should be horn tooting about their D2 MBB program either.

Really???

Series records (we all know your the record man)

Mens BBALL - 106-93 NDSU
Womens BBALL - 37-32 NDSU
FB- 51-40-5 NDSU
VB - 62-17 NDSU
Baseball - No series stats that I could find but pretty sure Jacks own us
Soccer - No info either not sure which way but I'm guessing Jacks
Softball - 45-42 NDSU

if you dominated us soooo bad in D2 why the records????

[filbert]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

his only basis on message boards is to argue

. . . you may have cracked the code here . . .

(Just trying to inject levity, Zoo . . . )

[NoVaJack]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

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• 1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
• 1/2 teaspoon salt
• 1/2 teaspoon ground ginger
• 1/4 teaspoon ground cloves
• 2 large eggs
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• Whipped cream (optional)

Directions
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[jackrabbit1979]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

I understand a lot of folks wanted to beat the bison, but I don't understand the freak out after the loss. On their home court an average to below average Summit League team (NDSU) beat an average to above average Summit League team (SDSU). That is supposed to happen - never mind the fact that it is a rivalry game too making it even more difficult to win on the road. Remember a couple times during the last few years, the best team in Bison basketball history (by a mile) had a hard time beating a poor SDSU team at Frost arena.

In conference play, the worst teams don't win on the road and rarely win at home, the bottom half win most at home and lose on the road, the top half win at home and win most on the road, and the best teams win almost everywhere. I don't know why anyone from SDSU would need excuses for the loss IN Fargo. Now if we lose to the Bison in Frost or at the tourney in Sioux Falls, that would be different.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

I think for most people it's not the fact we lost in Fargo, but rather the way we lost. This team simply does not have to luxury to come out in the second half without energy, hustle etc. and expect to compete for a victory. We thought the team had not beyond that tendacy, but it appears it reared it's ugly had again.

[Rabbitlivinginverm]

Re: Bad half? or a Sign of Things to Come?

As Filbert says, "I think we'll be okay."