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**SDSUAlum08** · 05-01-2009, 11:19 AM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

Originally posted by Kemo View Post

I feel that the 4 out of the 5 starters are already set:

Cordova (5)
Williams (3/4)
Sargent (1/3)
Gar. Callahan (2)

I don't see any scenario besides an injury, at least at the start of the season, that will make Nagy not start any of these four, and the reason is the versatility amongst Sargent and Williams.

If Wolters or Palarca steps into the starting roll, Kai will be the 4 and Clint will be the 3;

If it's White or Moss, Clint will be at the point and Kai at the 4;

if it's Rader or Fiegen, Kai will move to the 3 and Clint will be at the 1.

Clint is too important to our offense (14.1 ppg) not to have him start, as there were many times last year that he was the only one stepping up and hitting shots. He's been starting since he was a freshman as well and is a gamer, he won't allow anyone to pass him on the depth chart.

I really do agree with this post because it makes a lot of sense. But remember that things may change because the team is going to need players that can come off the bench and score. Keeping Clint or someone as the sixth man that comes off the bench a couple minutes into the game wouldn't hurt. I'm not saying him exactly but more as an example. He'd still get his minutes and still get his shots up. And maybe one of the incoming freshman can fill that role. Who knows?

What really matters is who's on the floor for the last two minutes of the game. That will tell you who's important to the coaches.

**Nidaros** · 05-01-2009, 12:26 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

Seems to me Coach Nagy often mentions the importance of fresh legs especially for guards. So the deeper the rotation, the less of a problem this seems to be. I suspect so many of the close loses would be attributed to guys legs being done for the evening.

Before I get bam boozeled here Coach Nagy is not talking about Frog Legs. Or young ladies for that matter.

**mitchell** · 05-01-2009, 01:30 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

If i was in coach Nagy's shoes my rotation would look something like this:

PG - SR Callahan/ FR Wolters / JR Palarca
SG - JR Sargent / FR White / SO Callahan
SF - JR Moss / FR Radar / SO Callahan
PF - SR Williams / FR Fiegen / JR Peterson
C - JR Cordova / SR Engen / SO Cassaday

It's a small line-up but with length in reserve spots and senior leadership. This is the deepest team we've had in the DI era so hopefully we take advantage and really get after it. Pressure D and uptempo O.

The scoring will be there with Callahan, Sargent, Cordova, & Williams all in double figures again. Moss will provide energy and defense. Williams has perfect size for the 3 spot but plays better at the 4 where he can be a beast on the boards.

**SF_Rabbit_Fan** · 05-01-2009, 03:58 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

Aren't we all discounting the abilities of Michael Palarca just a bit here?

-He started 10 games last season.

-He averaged more minutes per game than Dale Moss.

-Was one of 2 regular players who actually had a positive assist:turnover ratio.

-Was second on the team in steals.

-He's not going to score you a bunch of points (isn't that why we have Callahan, Cordova, Kai, Sargent), but he will take care of the ball. And he will defend the point as well as anybody on the roster.

-Compared to other point guards in our league, he isn't really undersized at all.

I may be insane, but when posters talk about a true freshman jumping a junior who played over 19 minutes per game on the depth chart, I kind of have to scratch my head. It is certainly possible, but I guess I'll have to see Wolters and White and Fiegen in all their glory before I believe the hype. I think they'll be good players, but I don't know if any of them will play over 20 minutes per game or score in double digits as true freshman or maybe even sophomores.

Any way you slice it, we are going to have good depth, length, and ability at pretty much every position next year, which is why we'll be better.

**joeboo22** · 05-01-2009, 04:08 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan View Post

Aren't we all discounting the abilities of Michael Palarca just a bit here?

-He started 10 games last season.

-He averaged more minutes per game than Dale Moss.

-Was one of 2 regular players who actually had a positive assist:turnover ratio.

-Was second on the team in steals.

-He's not going to score you a bunch of points (isn't that why we have Callahan, Cordova, Kai, Sargent), but he will take care of the ball. And he will defend the point as well as anybody on the roster.

-Compared to other point guards in our league, he isn't really undersized at all.

I may be insane, but when posters talk about a true freshman jumping a junior who played over 19 minutes per game on the depth chart, I kind of have to scratch my head. It is certainly possible, but I guess I'll have to see Wolters and White and Fiegen in all their glory before I believe the hype. I think they'll be good players, but I don't know if any of them will play over 20 minutes per game or score in double digits as true freshman or maybe even sophomores.

Any way you slice it, we are going to have good depth, length, and ability at pretty much every position next year, which is why we'll be better.

I'm with you.... You don't know how freshman will play and you don't know who did what until next year.....

**mitchell** · 05-01-2009, 04:22 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

The only reason I would assume Wolters would be ahead of Palarca is because of what Nagy's gushed about in the articles and him saying that he will compete for a starting spot. Palarca brings alot to the table as the stats you provided show, but he only shoots 34% FG and 23% 3PT. He's a solid player who does a lot of the little things, but having a 6'4 PG who is a threat to take it to the rim and either finish over the smallish summit PG's, or kick out to our good shooters is something that could make our offense really dynamic.

If Wolters has trouble with turn overs or defense though, I would agree that Nagy would go more with the JR Palarca who is seasoned and who might not be as dynamic as a player but can get the job done.

**2002jack** · 05-01-2009, 06:09 PM

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We just don't know right now. Players can make tremondous strides over the summer. Look at AC. If Palarca works hard, and improves his shooting, he can be one heck of a threat. Let's let the off season play out and see what happens. I think he's going to be impressive this coming season, and he's my darkhorse to be the most improved.

**goon** · 05-01-2009, 07:36 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

Originally posted by 2002jack View Post

We just don't know right now. Players can make tremondous strides over the summer. Look at AC. If Palarca works hard, and improves his shooting, he can be one heck of a threat. Let's let the off season play out and see what happens. I think he's going to be impressive this coming season, and he's my darkhorse to be the most improved.

Personally I think Palarca was are best pressure and overall defensive player last year. He kept up that agressiveness when it seems the other guards were ready for a breather or left a little bit to big of a cushion. Atleast we can all agree is that we have options for this team that we have not seen in years. there are dozens of potential line ups with this group of guys which is what makes it so fun to think what those posibilities are.

**Jacks99** · 05-01-2009, 08:23 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

Originally posted by SDSUAlum08 View Post

I really do agree with this post because it makes a lot of sense. But remember that things may change because the team is going to need players that can come off the bench and score. Keeping Clint or someone as the sixth man that comes off the bench a couple minutes into the game wouldn't hurt. I'm not saying him exactly but more as an example. He'd still get his minutes and still get his shots up. And maybe one of the incoming freshman can fill that role. Who knows?

What really matters is who's on the floor for the last two minutes of the game. That will tell you who's important to the coaches.

"Instant Offense"

**SturgisJeff** · 05-01-2009, 08:23 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

you go with the lineup that best matches or out matches the other teams line up. that gives everyone a chance to start depending on how they match up. if that means ten different line ups and it works, go for it.

**TeaJackrabbit** · 05-01-2009, 08:51 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

Aren't we all discounting the abilities of Michael Palarca just a bit here?

-He started 10 games last season.

-He averaged more minutes per game than Dale Moss.

-Was one of 2 regular players who actually had a positive assist:turnover ratio.

-Was second on the team in steals.

-He's not going to score you a bunch of points (isn't that why we have Callahan, Cordova, Kai, Sargent), but he will take care of the ball. And he will defend the point as well as anybody on the roster.

-Compared to other point guards in our league, he isn't really undersized at all.

I may be insane, but when posters talk about a true freshman jumping a junior who played over 19 minutes per game on the depth chart, I kind of have to scratch my head. It is certainly possible, but I guess I'll have to see Wolters and White and Fiegen in all their glory before I believe the hype. I think they'll be good players, but I don't know if any of them will play over 20 minutes per game or score in double digits as true freshman or maybe even sophomores.

Any way you slice it, we are going to have good depth, length, and ability at pretty much every position next year, which is why we'll be better.

I hear ya. I look back at the ORU game when Sarg was out. He (Palarca)was great and I don't even know if he had a turnover all game.

With that said, I wish he brought a little more as far as scoring. Everyone who has seen this Wolters play has just gushed about his ability. He comes in much more hyped than Palarca. What if he is close to Palarca as far as defense and ballhandling plus a better shooter and a kid who can get to the rack and create (which is what everyone loves about him)? Plus he's 4-5 inches taller. You know that the staff had to tell him the opportunity to come in and play right away.

I don't care, I don't really have favorites, I just want to win!

**TeaJackrabbit** · 05-01-2009, 08:52 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

The only reason I would assume Wolters would be ahead of Palarca is because of what Nagy's gushed about in the articles and him saying that he will compete for a starting spot. Palarca brings alot to the table as the stats you provided show, but he only shoots 34% FG and 23% 3PT. He's a solid player who does a lot of the little things, but having a 6'4 PG who is a threat to take it to the rim and either finish over the smallish summit PG's, or kick out to our good shooters is something that could make our offense really dynamic.

If Wolters has trouble with turn overs or defense though, I would agree that Nagy would go more with the JR Palarca who is seasoned and who might not be as dynamic as a player but can get the job done.

Good stuff, I tried to say what you did. next time I'll read everyones post before responding.

I did send a text to a Jack player recently telling him he better bust his butt b/c there is going to be alot of competetion

**Jacks#1Fan** · 05-01-2009, 10:37 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

Originally posted by mitchell View Post

The only reason I would assume Wolters would be ahead of Palarca is because of what Nagy's gushed about in the articles and him saying that he will compete for a starting spot.

I may be misreading your post, but I believe Coach Nagy said he would see a lot of playing time right away...but I don't think that means today that he will be the starter at point guard. Certainly he will compete for the spot and may be the primary competitor because I believe White and our current guards will be better when they are not at the point. I too believe Palarca will be tough this fall...he got behind last year when he was injured and I think he was just beginning to come strong at the end. Regardless, if Wolter can play at the level of this year's schedule, won't it be awesome to have two true point guards available!!

**JACKGUYII** · 05-02-2009, 09:09 AM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

The good news is we return almost our entire team from last year and that also could be the bad news. Let's not forget we return the nucleous of a team that did not win a road game last year and there are no guarantees those experienced players will improve or regress from what they did last year. I'm more optimistic because of the new influx of talent that should provide the depth and competition at all positions we have been lacking from the beginning of the transition.

**boxerboy** · 05-02-2009, 12:12 PM

Re: Why we'll be better next year....

They will be much improved. Last years team learned how to win some close games. Look for a team that will win 50% of their conference road games next year and be in the top 3 in the conference.

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