Oakland Coach

[Nidaros]

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Kampe's a very competitive guy. He's won a lot of games at Oakland. I would note he has publicly defended Coach Nagy against his critics, saying the Jacks were becoming a scary team and Coach Nagy is doing a great job. Maybe it's easier to be magnanimous about Coach Nagy when Nagy wasn't beating him.

He was obviously out of line here, but I try to avoid judging people by what they do in their worst moments.

Your right, Kampe did make some kind remarks about Coach Nagy. I am sure is a decent person, but it bothers me to see a coach go after the refs especially when the game is over and in the books.

I know when Noel Olson was commisoner of the NCC, he took time to listen to the coaches complaints about officating and the refs who obviously made mistakes did find out about the complaints. I got to know one ref in Nebraska who was on a NCC officating group for football, and every Monday they officated, there seem to be a conference call with the Commissioner about errors in officating. This what I the Commissioner and his staff should be doing. If there is a procedure for coaches about lodging complaints and since Kampe has been around a long time, he should not be running after refs when the game is over. So no doubt, this was a worst moment for Coach Kampe.

[Cowbell]

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JimmyJack ... I'm an old fan of that quote, "Adversity not only tests character, it reveals it." The fact that the coach dropped numerous "f-bombs" at NDSU and then does the same here, well, it's not right. And, people should not accept it, period.

I really don't care if he defended Nagy. He's a coach ... he's a representative of a university ... he's someone people look up to.

I think it is pitiful that he's allowed to continue simply because of his wins and loss record. What does that say about the state of things?

[1bunnies]

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At one point,he wasted a entire timeout yelling at an official. It's not the officials fault your team choked at the free throw line,coach.

I think it's time for an NCAA rule change. During media timeouts if the coach is at midcourt chewing on the officials and not in his huddle with his team it should be a technical foul. Or any timeout for that matter. Timeout are intended for instructions to players, not time to work an official. The way to stop the F-bombs is the technical foul also. He gets 2, then he waits for the team in the locker room. After all it is only a game.

[jacksfaninne]

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Almost sounds minor compared with Pat Knight going after the refs during Tech's game last night.

[JACKGUYII]

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Kampe showed his true colors last night. It's easy to be complimentary to Nagy and anyone else when your winning. If he had focused more on his team than the officials last night maybe he gets a win. He barely shook Nagy's hand and was more concerned with where the officials were after the game and sprinted after them. He is fortunate Burgers kept him from confronting the officials as he looked like a mad man who was out for blood. The Summit League should suspend him for that kind of unprofessional behavior! In my opinion he is a punk and a bully who has been getting away with this nonsense for years.

[NoVaJack]

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This guy has his own website http://www.gregkampe.com/journal.html
Take a gander at the top photo featured.

Included is a 2,000 word biography. Among several posts he authored, he predicted this at the beginning of the season:
The dark horse of the league might be South Dakota State. They had a young and talented team this past season. With a year under their belt they should be a real factor in the race for the Summit League championship.


Also authored a long article about success at Oakland.

Quoting from it:

.My first premise why Oakland has had this unique success lies with the coaching staff. Oakland has long-term coaches in a number of sports. I have been at Oakland University for 22 years. Nationally, there are only eight men’s basketball coaches in D-I who have been at their respective school longer than that. I rank third in longevity among the coaching staff at Oakland.

[JACKGUYII]

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Some of the old guard of the former Mid-Cont doesn't like the new upstart State U's coming in and be so competitive so soon!

[MontanaRabbit]

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Kampe's a very competitive guy. He's won a lot of games at Oakland. I would note he has publicly defended Coach Nagy against his critics, saying the Jacks were becoming a scary team and Coach Nagy is doing a great job. Maybe it's easier to be magnanimous about Coach Nagy when Nagy wasn't beating him.

He was obviously out of line here, but I try to avoid judging people by what they do in their worst moments.

It's been said on here he dropped f-bomb after f-bomb in Fargo and then does the same thing last night. And then after the game last night he goes after the refs. If your worst moment occurs over and over I would tend to think one could judge him. Obviously he has been at Oakland for many years, but one has to wonder about his actions. IMO they are unacceptable.

Many on here including yourself JimmyJack have said things about USD's fan behavior and holding them to a higher standard before we resume the rivalry. But, what about the opposing coach? I think he should be held to an even higher standard. I understand fighting for your team and getting T'd up, but to do this night in and night out, that's just wrong. SDSU portrays these events as fan friendly. When a coach acts like that.......it's definitely not a good thing.

[bub94]

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Your right, Kampe did make some kind remarks about Coach Nagy. I am sure is a decent person, but it bothers me to see a coach go after the refs especially when the game is over and in the books.

I know when Noel Olson was commisoner of the NCC, he took time to listen to the coaches complaints about officating and the refs who obviously made mistakes did find out about the complaints. I got to know one ref in Nebraska who was on a NCC officating group for football, and every Monday they officated, there seem to be a conference call with the Commissioner about errors in officating. This what I the Commissioner and his staff should be doing. If there is a procedure for coaches about lodging complaints and since Kampe has been around a long time, he should not be running after refs when the game is over. So no doubt, this was a worst moment for Coach Kampe.

Isn't ex-coach Neiber part of the group dealing with officiating in the Summit League? For some reason I was under the assumption she was the SDSU representative. Am I smokin' something?

[zooropa]

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Yes, Nancy Neiber is involved in officiating.

As far as Kampe goes----I'm not going to condone his conduct (or his attire---wear a suit buddy!). However, that kind of coaching should be expected by Rabbit fans, as we step out into the great big world of D-1.

In D-2 we were playing for much smaller stakes, and in a much smaller region.

In no way would I want that kind of conduct from an SDSU coach. However, it's unreasonable to expect that SDSU's personnel are typical of D-1 in general, in as much as SDSU's AD staff are not typical of D-1 in general.

Regarding Kampe's comments about Nagy & SDSU, Kampe's not an idiot. He may not be well mannered but he's not an idiot, and from a won/loss perspective, he's not a bad coach either.

All the rest (unfortunately) matters only if it matters to the AD's office.

[JimmyJack]

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JimmyJack ... I'm an old fan of that quote, "Adversity not only tests character, it reveals it." The fact that the coach dropped numerous "f-bombs" at NDSU and then does the same here, well, it's not right. And, people should not accept it, period.

Good quote. But we're talking about a basketball game here, not a real "character-revealing" crisis.

Let me use Gene Keady from Purdue as an example of what I'm saying. Keady was known to drop an f-bomb or 300 almost every time his teams took the court. He confronted a few referees after games, too. One day, I was walking next to Mackey Arena. A student was crossing the busy street there and was struck, hit-and-run, by a car. Gene Keady, who was getting in his car outside the arena, jumped out, ran over, made sure the woman wasn't seriously hurt, then helped her to his car and took her to the hospital. Keady was hated by opposing teams, but I saw his true character right there, in a real crisis. Before Keady came to her aid, cars were driving around the woman lying on the street. Keady didn't have to help. If you judge by what opposing fans thought of him, you'd assume he would not. But in fact, he was the first one there showing he cared for another human being. He also, Paterno-like, gave piles of cash to the academic side of the university and, off the basketball court, is one of the nicest guys you could ever hope to meet.

Who knows what kind of person Kampe really is? Maybe he's the kind of person who would reveal his true character in a moment like Keady did. I'm not going to judge him a bad person just because he's a profane d-bag on the basketball court.

That's my point.

Many on here including yourself JimmyJack have said things about USD's fan behavior and holding them to a higher standard before we resume the rivalry. But, what about the opposing coach?

I didn't say his behavior wasn't stupid. In fact, I said "he was obviously out of line here". Reread my prior post. I just cautioned against judging him based on that alone.

[SturgisJeff]

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There is a way for the refs to stop it. T the offender up for unsportsmanlike conduct. When I was officiating flag football for the great Warren Williamson's intramural dept. every time this one guy coaching for one of the girls team made an offhanded remark of the team they were playing I tossed the flag. After three penalties in a row he shut up. Kids go to the games and although they already know the words and use them they should not have to be subjected to hearing them from an adult in an authoritarian position.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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There is a way for the refs to stop it. T the offender up for unsportsmanlike conduct. When I was officiating flag football for the great Warren Williamson's intramural dept. every time this one guy coaching for one of the girls team made an offhanded remark of the team they were playing I tossed the flag. After three penalties in a row he shut up. Kids go to the games and although they already know the words and use them they should not have to be subjected to hearing them from an adult in an authoritarian position.

That's what I don't get. Why didn't the refs T him up? To show they have thick enough skin to take it? I'm not sure but guessing that calling a T gets an official an automatic review the next week, so they take the verbal assaults to avoid a bunch of "paperwork" the next week. One T and he's probably done dropping f-bombs the rest of the night. If he does it again, T him up again and throw him out. The officials are supposed to have the highest authority on a basketball court, but when they let a coach continually push harder and harder it can be a bad thing for the game.

[Cowbell]

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I don't want to get too philosophical about this, but I think this is just another example of how we, as a civilization, continue to evolve going in the wrong direction. The lines of acceptable behavior are now skewed or don't exist. Sadly, the offenders are now celebrated. The person who points out bad behavior is vilified. Our grandparents would like to wash our mouths out with soap.

[Germane]

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As an Oakland fan, maybe I can offer a little perspective on Kampe, for what it's worth. He's a very competetive guy and he's never been afraid to say what he thinks to anyone - players, officials, etc. He has been criticized for it on plenty of occasions, but there's almost always a method to his "mad-ness" (in the literal sense of him being angry about something). When OU played at Iowa earlier this season, Kampe's comments at the postgame press conference ripped Iowa's administration and their terrible practice facilities. It was a big deal in their local press, and many people thought Kampe was out of line. But Todd Lickliter was actually grateful for Kampe's tirade, because it was the truth and it may help Lickliter finally get the practice facilities he's been pushing for.

I don't know what happened on Saturday night, and I have no idea if Kampe was genuinely trying to address a specific call or if he was simply pissed off and flew off the handle. It is entirely possible that he exercised poor judgment. But if you look at the history, he's done a pretty good job over the years of not crossing the line. Now, if angry cursing by D1 college coaches is considered scandalous in South Dakota across the board, then you're all going to find plenty to complain about in the coming years. Bring earplugs if you sit near the bench. Sometimes it seems like some posters on this forum don't even want Scott Nagy to raise his voice. Coaches who yell are not always terrible human beings. It wouldn't suprise me at all to hear that Kampe had gone way out of his way to help someone like Gene Keady did. Ron Hunter has literally acted like a maniac during certain games in the past, and yet he's done a great job on a personal level with the shoe campaign.

Finally, congrats on the win Saturday night. Your team showed a ton of heart in coming back from 17 down, and you deserved to win the game down the stretch. I don't think there are any Summit teams who will be eager to face the Jacks in Sioux Falls. I think SDSU has been a great addition to the Summit, and it's good to see the progress Nagy is making with your program. And kudos for the tremendous fan support at both games on Saturday.