Basketball Personnel Discussion (was Cam Hornby)

[SDSUJack3031]

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So Nagy's looking to intramural players because aside from the fact that sounds crazy, there would be no problem with making sure the player is eligible on a grade front (because all non-athletes are getting straigh A's and would automatically be eligible for grades), no problem with the fact that an intramural player hasn't cleared the NCAA clearing house (every athlete has to be cleared by the NCAA in order to participate for any sport), no problem with the fact that the intramural player may have not played an organized game of basketball for years (intramurals is not organized), and no problem that the intramural player would have no idea about the plays SDSU runs so Nagy would have to spend an inordinant amount of time teaching him the plays.  Also, I'm sure that intramural player would be in good enough shape to make it through 1/4 of a practice, let alone an entire week of practices or even the remainder of the season.  None of that makes the statement about scouting intramural players seem implausible.

I think he's looking for someone to help out next year if he needs it and if that person is out there. Intramurals don't start until after break.

[1bunnies]

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The story I heard on Heien was Nagy located him in the librairy studying, but no doubt there was a network of people who told the coaching staff that Heien  had transferred to SDSU. People from DAC schools and GPAC, if and when they transfer to SDSU for academic reasons probably dont make a lot of fuzz about their presences. They may not even approach the coaching staff about walking on.

I think the thing to remember about talented athletes is that participating and holding on to a scholarship requires a great amount of time and if you came for academic reasons, its becomes a real big decision. Do you want to be in Frost practicing four to five hours a day or would you rather be in the libraiy studying?

I see nothing wrong about watching intramurals. A grad assistant probably would get that job if indeed there is thought about looking for walkons.  I sure there are a few who may come to Nagy now that apparently there is a need for walkons? Nothing offical yet so no reason to get excited.

I heard that Heien aprroached Nagy about walking on first and was turned away. Nagy went back after some injuries and such and then contacted Heien. It may well have been at the library.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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[quote author=SDSUJack3031 link=1165298765/90#90 date=1165950937I think he's looking for someone to help out next year if he needs it and if that person is out there. Intramurals don't start until after break. [/quote]

Listen, I've been wrong about things before and am only going by my own feelings on this, but that explanation makes even less sense than the one that he's looking for players to fill this year. There is a wealth of basketball talent in this country and I doubt that a Division 1 basketball program (even one that is struggling) would need to look to intramural players to fill a roster spot on next year's team. That just makes no sense. Also, I played intramurals (until I was suspended - long story) and I don't remember many guys taller than me (6'4&quot out there playing. If they were taller, they were garbage. Last time I checked, this team's need was not in 6'4" or shorter high school has beens. I just don't buy it. Nothing personal to those making the claims because you may be right. Just doens't pass the smell test with me.

[Jackson]

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MJA, I had a great career in the intramural ranks and could have helped my college team if the coach would have just taken some notice. In high school, my coach held me back and wouldn't let me go, but once I got to college I developed into a really good player. I was able to put on some much-needed weight and mature physically. I just wasn't given the chance with our high school team. I could see where an intramural player could contribute because they get so much game experience without the criticism from the coach and are able to play without worrying about making mistakes. Makes perfect sense to me.

[SDSUJack3031]

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And I completely agree with the fact that we probably don't have to go that route. But just taking a look at the intramural teams can't hurt. You're right in the fact that we probably don't need to do this and all in all..this whole thing is just speculation...but if you find a kid that can help you out...then why not take a chance on him with a walk-on spot if it works.

[Jacked_Up]

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Let's see. We've got a 15-player roster, in theory, and a maximum of 13 scholarships. By my estimate, nearly half the scholarship slots presently are occupied by redshirt, ineligible or departing players. The math suggests that some good walk-on help would be welcome for the short term, no matter where the talent can be found. Maybe just for practice or emergency situations. Looking a little further ahead, there are two senior scholarship players on the roster who, in effect, already have been replaced by commitments from two solid high school recruits. At least a couple of roster slots for next year remain open. Attracting a good, steady crop of walk-ons to complement and push scholarship players apparently is more important, and more difficult, than I realized. Winning, no doubt, would make the job a lot easier.

[jackmd]

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I personally can't believe some have sunk as low as considering intramural scouts. That is ridiculous. There is not a DI quality intramural basketball player on the SDSU campus. I honestly can't believe this is a serious discussion. Maybe I'm the crazy one but I don't think so.

This team is about where I expected them to be. Look at the parts that equal the whole and tell me why they should be better. 8-9 wins was about the best anyone should have expected. Its a work in progress.

Intramural walk-ons, no way, no how.

[UWMandSDSU]

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Some have said that there is no harm in the Grad assistants at least watching the intramural games. Well I said there is some harm. The coaching staff is undermanned right now as it is and if they are taking time to watch intramural games that is time taken away from watching game film, recruiting Div I high school prospects, and gettting the players on the roster ready for the upcoming game.

[JackJD]

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I personally can't believe some have sunk as low as considering intramural scouts.  That is ridiculous.  There is not a DI quality intramural basketball player on the SDSU campus.  I honestly can't believe this is a serious discussion.  Maybe I'm the crazy one but I don't think so.

This team is about where I expected them to be.  Look at the parts that equal the whole and tell me why they should be better.  8-9 wins was about the best anyone should have expected.  Its a work in progress.

Intramural walk-ons, no way, no how.

Doc, I think it's just idle chatter on the message board and I agree with your "no way, no how" comment.  But, I can name at least one guy on campus who could probably play...he considered walking on but decided against it.  The problem, as pointed out by others: too far behind the conditioning curve at this point; and, we don't need another 6-4 to 6-5 guy.

I'm not sure why I'm even reading this thread.  Donald Sutherland's character in the movie M.A.S.H.:  Cut out the negative vibes.

Go 'Rabbits.

[SD-STATE]

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COME ON EVERYBODY, CLAP YOUR HANDS!

[juice]

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MJA, I had a great career in the intramural ranks and could have helped my college team if the coach would have just taken some notice.  In high school, my coach held me back and wouldn't let me go, but once I got to college I developed into a really good player.  I was able to put on some much-needed weight and mature physically.  I just wasn't given the chance with our high school team.  I could see where an intramural player could contribute because they get so much game experience without the criticism from the coach and are able to play without worrying about making mistakes.  Makes perfect sense to me.

Did you just refer to your days of playing intramural ball as a career? I can't tell if you are serious in this post or not. There may be some guys playing intramurals that would be good enough to walk-on (not play, but make the team) but I doubt very much that the coaches are going looking for them.

I can't imagine that any member of SDSU's coaching staff would be scouting the intramural games for potential players. Even if they were that hard up, I think they would be too embarrassed to actually resort to that. There is probably a GA that either plays in the league or runs intramurals and rumors started to fly that he was there looking for walkons. However, with all this being said Nagy did go asking for the help of some football players last year, so I guess anything is possible.

[EQguy]

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Actually, Wags was an intramural beast. So, I guess, you could say they got some guys from intramurals last year.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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[quote author=Jackson link=1165298765/90#93 date=1165976022]MJA, I had a great career in the intramural ranks and could have helped my college team if the coach would have just taken some notice.  In high school, my coach held me back and wouldn't let me go, but once I got to college I developed into a really good player.  I was able to put on some much-needed weight and mature physically.  I just wasn't given the chance with our high school team.  I could see where an intramural player could contribute because they get so much game experience without the criticism from the coach and are able to play without worrying about making mistakes.  Makes perfect sense to me.

Did you just refer to your days of playing intramural ball as a career?  I can't tell if you are serious in this post or not.  There may be some guys playing intramurals that would be good enough to walk-on (not play, but make the team) but I doubt very much that the coaches are going looking for them.
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I believe he was being sarcastic.

[jackmd]

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[quote author=juice link=1165298765/90#100 date=1166021763][quote author=Jackson link=1165298765/90#93 date=1165976022]MJA, I had a great career in the intramural ranks and could have helped my college team if the coach would have just taken some notice.  In high school, my coach held me back and wouldn't let me go, but once I got to college I developed into a really good player.  I was able to put on some much-needed weight and mature physically.  I just wasn't given the chance with our high school team.  I could see where an intramural player could contribute because they get so much game experience without the criticism from the coach and are able to play without worrying about making mistakes.  Makes perfect sense to me.

Did you just refer to your days of playing intramural ball as a career?  I can't tell if you are serious in this post or not.  There may be some guys playing intramurals that would be good enough to walk-on (not play, but make the team) but I doubt very much that the coaches are going looking for them.
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I believe he was being sarcastic.
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Again, personally, I think that post by Jackson was about the best satire I have seen on this site, quality stuff.

[Thumper]

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I can guarantee our GA's and coaches are not combing the intramural ranks..... Pure hogwash and comical!