Propar80:
I do not get where you are coming from joking or not, I thought Jackmd was passing on some interesting observations coming from the coach who happened to play golf in Yankton this past Monday. No doubt the twin towers will struggle for a while on defense, as its a big step up between Iowa HS and Summit League BB.
He wasn't picking on Jackmd. With all the talk lately regarding new players red shirting, the news about none of the new players redshirting will get some people started. I have no problems with none of the new players redshirting. Sometimes redshirting is a good idea if you have a bunch of players on the roster for the same position, but I don't think that will be the case.
Propar80:
I do not get where you are coming from joking or not, I thought Jackmd was passing on some interesting observations coming from the coach who happened to play golf in Yankton this past Monday. No doubt the twin towers will struggle for a while on defense, as its a big step up between Iowa HS and Summit League BB.
I think propar was just making an observation. Coach did say that both young men will have to play big roles this year and that those roles will be different than in high school. He loves their versatility, as do we all, and he expects that to translate to the next level. As for other details, I'll just wait and watch as we have fun speculating.
On Wednesday in Yankton Nagy said he heard that all 12 guys currently on the roster are in Brookings. He didn't know if they were working out together or not but he sure hopes they are. He is very optimistic about this teams attitude and although very young expects a lot from them. Did mention that none of the new guys will redshirt and that Heemstra and Dykstra will have a steep learning curve especially on the defensive end. He spoke about a few other things as well.[/QUOTE]
OOOH...let the second guessing begin!!
It's always slow in the summer on the board, but this should peak some interest....I can't wait!
Go Jacks!!
Propar80:
I do not get where you are coming from joking or not, I thought Jackmd was passing on some interesting observations coming from the coach who happened to play golf in Yankton this past Monday. No doubt the twin towers will struggle for a while on defense, as its a big step up between Iowa HS and Summit League BB.
[QUOTE=jackmd;154249]On Wednesday in Yankton Nagy said he heard that all 12 guys currently on the roster are in Brookings. He didn't know if they were working out together or not but he sure hopes they are. He is very optimistic about this teams attitude and although very young expects a lot from them. Did mention that none of the new guys will redshirt and that Heemstra and Dykstra will have a steep learning curve especially on the defensive end. He spoke about a few other things as well.[/QUOTE]
OOOH...let the second guessing begin!!
It's always slow in the summer on the board, but this should peak some interest....I can't wait!
That would be my guess. Can't say for sure if he's playing baseball or not but I know he's currently on campus.
On Wednesday in Yankton Nagy said he heard that all 12 guys currently on the roster are in Brookings. He didn't know if they were working out together or not but he sure hopes they are. He is very optimistic about this teams attitude and although very young expects a lot from them. Did mention that none of the new guys will redshirt and that Heemstra and Dykstra will have a steep learning curve especially on the defensive end. He spoke about a few other things as well.
Joeboo22 is correct in that Terry said during his live chat that Marcus would be playing baseball this summer, though being that Rock Valley isn't all that long of drive, it might be possible that Marcus is doing both baseball and summer workouts.
That would be my guess. Can't say for sure if he's playing baseball or not but I know he's currently on campus.
[Comment From Kemo: ]
Do you know whether all the basketball players (that we have active/signed so far) will be on campus this summer?
Thursday May 6, 2010 2:50 Kemo
2:50
Most will, yes. But Marcus Heemstra is going to play baseball.
Joeboo22 is correct in that Terry said during his live chat that Marcus would be playing baseball this summer, though being that Rock Valley isn't all that long of drive, it might be possible that Marcus is doing both baseball and summer workouts.
Wrong once again. Basketball players got back to campus this week for summer classes which started today. Including both incoming freshman.
Thats not what Terry said in his live chat
[Comment From KemoKemo: ]
Do you know whether all the basketball players (that we have active/signed so far) will be on campus this summer?
Thursday May 6, 2010 2:50 Kemo
2:50
Most will, yes. But Marcus Heemstra is going to play baseball.
I think some people are making too big of a deal about his slow release on his outside shot. This would be an issue for a player who mostly plays on the perimeter, but not a player who is 7 foot tall and will be playing mostly inside.
The idea behind him having the ability to consistently make 3 pointers is to force his man guard him out at the 3 point line instead of sagging in and helping inside. This will help spread the floor, but can also be used to pull the other teams big away from the basket to open up driving lane and create inside shots for smaller players. Think of how nice it would be to draw Keith Benson out to the perimeter instead of being camped inside!
He definitely is a project however, and if we did sign him I would expect to see him play limited minutes this year, for it will take time for him to get comfortable with his "new and improved" knee as well as adjusting to the physicality of the college game.
I agree, Unless he has a quick 7 footer guarding him then he might be in trouble. Other wise with the right mis match his 3 will still be open, and who knows he is young and had bad knees. A little college weight training and work down low and I think he could be much better then we see, even if he is only is up against organge cones in the video. Even if he is a total bust I dont think he would be any worse then Engen. But On the flip side has much more potential than Engen. If he has good grades, puts team first and works hard. a 7 footer with marginal skills is enough for me to offer.
I think some people are making too big of a deal about his slow release on his outside shot. This would be an issue for a player who mostly plays on the perimeter, but not a player who is 7 foot tall and will be playing mostly inside.
The idea behind him having the ability to consistently make 3 pointers is to force his man guard him out at the 3 point line instead of sagging in and helping inside. This will help spread the floor, but can also be used to pull the other teams big away from the basket to open up driving lane and create inside shots for smaller players. Think of how nice it would be to draw Keith Benson out to the perimeter instead of being camped inside!
He definitely is a project however, and if we did sign him I would expect to see him play limited minutes this year, for it will take time for him to get comfortable with his "new and improved" knee as well as adjusting to the physicality of the college game.
However, we should only be recruiting kids who can come in and score 20 points and grab 10 rebounds per game as true freshman. Obviously, those are the only kinds of players who can help the program.
By my calculations, we would score about 240 points per game and other teams would never score second chance points.
I think it is important for folks to remember that every single player on the SDSU roster can play basketball. Not every player is good enough to garner regular playing time. The same could be said for pretty much every DI roster in the country.
Just because a kid doesn't play minutes doesn't mean he isn't worthy of a roster spot. All 12 guys can't average 30 minutes per game, and they can't average 20 points. However, they should all be able to contribute. And I think all our players do contribute. If you don't believe me, stop by a practice sometime next fall.
With all that being said, I trust the coaches to determine whether or not this kid (or any other) can contribute.
Remember, there have been several other guys similar to this that have paid a dividend. Mark Engen would be the most recent. I'm not saying he isn't right for an offer I'm just saying I'm not the one to speculate. Looks can be deceiving. To me he doesn't look like an immediate impact player and he does look like a project big man, as they say.
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