2010 Recruits

[LakeJack]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Steve J sign with Cal State. Actually, a couple of my friends no the head coach there Paul Eberhart and they said Steve has a very "different" personality and may not have been a great fit chemistry wise. Take for what its worth, second (third ??) hand.

It is also on TV's twitter

http://twitter.com/terryvandrovec

[rabbit_boy]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Steve J sign with Cal State. Actually, a couple of my friends no the head coach there Paul Eberhart and they said Steve has a very "different" personality and may not have been a great fit chemistry wise. Take for what its worth, second (third ??) hand.

[Nidaros]

Re: 2010 Recruits

No Steve Jurich is a 6'7" 220 lbs JuCo All American F from Scottsdale Community College

The guy that want to Alaska is Taylor Rohde 6'8" 235 lbs F from Arizona State

Thanks I guess I missed a few posts here and there. I appreciate that you set the record straight. I had thought Jurich had played at ASU, so I guess thats how I got it screwed up.

[LakeJack]

Re: 2010 Recruits

I asked TV about Jurich yesterday in the live chat and unless TV was speaking of someone else, he said Jurich had chosen to go to a D2 school in Alaska where he could play right away. This is the guy who played briefly with Arizonia State Univerisity, is it not?

No Steve Jurich is a 6'7" 220 lbs JuCo All American F from Scottsdale Community College

The guy that want to Alaska is Taylor Rohde 6'8" 235 lbs F from Arizona State

[MinneapolisJack]

Re: 2010 Recruits

I asked TV about Jurich yesterday in the live chat and unless TV was speaking of someone else, he said Jurich had chosen to go to a D2 school in Alaska where he could play right away. This is the guy who played briefly with Arizonia State Univerisity, is it not?

2 different players. The one was transferring from Arizona St and ended up at a DII in Alaska. The other is JUCO from Arizona that we are after.

[Nidaros]

Re: 2010 Recruits

From TV's twitter

http://twitter.com/terryvandrovec

From the coach of juco forward Steve Jurich: He has offers from SDSU, Longwood + CSU Fullerton, but only visited Brookings. Decision soon.

I asked TV about Jurich yesterday in the live chat and unless TV was speaking of someone else, he said Jurich had chosen to go to a D2 school in Alaska where he could play right away. This is the guy who played briefly with Arizonia State Univerisity, is it not?

[LakeJack]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Any word on Steve Jurich, the juco power forward from Arizona? I hope the Jacks are still in contention for him.

From TV's twitter

http://twitter.com/terryvandrovec

From the coach of juco forward Steve Jurich: He has offers from SDSU, Longwood + CSU Fullerton, but only visited Brookings. Decision soon.

[Jacked_Up]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Any word on Steve Jurich, the juco power forward from Arizona? I hope the Jacks are still in contention for him.

[BTownJack]

Re: 2010 Recruits

"2010 Recruits," please . . .

Please!

[filbert]

Re: 2010 Recruits

"2010 Recruits," please . . .

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Now you have angered Bill.

[LakeJack]

Re: 2010 Recruits

[zooropa]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Maybe the McHale discussion should be moved elsewhere....

[zooropa]

Re: 2010 Recruits

I admit to playing the devil's advocate simply for the sake of conversation during the slow summer months, but just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok (at least that's what my mom told me). McHale was an amazing player, I'm not trying to take anything away from him.

The NBA has a lot of issues with rule enforcement, IMO. Players travel, carry the ball, push off, flop, etc, etc, etc. I dont' think its the ref's fault, because the game really does move extremely fast. They should probably just change the rules to make the stuff legal that they already let players get away with.

I don't think its good or bad, it just is. At least in the NBA.

However, to want a post with footwork similar to McHale, ball handling similar to Iverson, and rebounding skills similar to Ben Wallace probably wouldn't work at SDSU. Refs would call the travels, carries, and shoves, making the player ineffective. Ben Beran was a very good rebounder tallying over 1000 in high school. He was freshman of the year in the old NCC due in large part to his rebounding ability.

However, when we moved to DI, he started to get called for some of those pushes that the refs in highschool and DII let go because of who he was or who he played for. Neither of those factors carried any clout in the DI world, and Ben seemed to be in constant foul trouble. If Ben had played at a bigger school, he probably would have gotten away with a lot more.

Anyway, not really disagreeing, just making some friendly late July conversation.

The list of things that I'd like the NBA to do would be about as long, if not slightly longer than War and Peace.

Don't get me started on the meaningless 82 game season (not even half the teams are eliminated from the playoffs after EIGHTY TWO GAMES WHAT'S THE POINT?????!!!!), the not-so-lottery, free agency, the need for another ref, the need for a completely rewritten rulebook, and so on and so forth.

But I will say at least this much about McHale, traveling and the college game: The women (and to a lesser extent) the men in the college game can typically execute those pretty up and unders without traveling because they've got more space to work in. There's more space in the post.

Wark & Boever both did the up and under incredibly well--and Sunnarborg is showing promise. Also, Boever (like McHale) was often able to shoot off a rebound without bringing the ball down.

On Beran, one of the beefs I had with him, was that he couldn't/wouldn't adapt to the way he was being called--but I think he was stuck playing out of position a lot during the 'bad old years'. I suppose the choice was get called for fouls, or have fans rag him for 'not trying' (which was what happened to Kai--who played clean even when out of position)

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: 2010 Recruits

Okay. To pick one example, the clip at 3:02. Technically, McHale traveled on that play--he moved his pivot foot a couple inches before releasing the ball. But would you want to watch the NBA if they called him for traveling on a play like that?

I'm not going to break that montage down frame by frame, but there are dang few--if any--instances where McHale traveled so egregiously that he deserved to be called. Plenty of pivot foot drags and small hops and a few instances where it's not clear that the ball left his hand before his pivot foot touched the ground again on layups. But, shoot, man, everybody does that.

Traveling in the post is kind of like holding on the O-line. It happens all the time.

I admit to playing the devil's advocate simply for the sake of conversation during the slow summer months, but just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok (at least that's what my mom told me). McHale was an amazing player, I'm not trying to take anything away from him.

The NBA has a lot of issues with rule enforcement, IMO. Players travel, carry the ball, push off, flop, etc, etc, etc. I dont' think its the ref's fault, because the game really does move extremely fast. They should probably just change the rules to make the stuff legal that they already let players get away with.

I don't think its good or bad, it just is. At least in the NBA.

However, to want a post with footwork similar to McHale, ball handling similar to Iverson, and rebounding skills similar to Ben Wallace probably wouldn't work at SDSU. Refs would call the travels, carries, and shoves, making the player ineffective. Ben Beran was a very good rebounder tallying over 1000 in high school. He was freshman of the year in the old NCC due in large part to his rebounding ability.

However, when we moved to DI, he started to get called for some of those pushes that the refs in highschool and DII let go because of who he was or who he played for. Neither of those factors carried any clout in the DI world, and Ben seemed to be in constant foul trouble. If Ben had played at a bigger school, he probably would have gotten away with a lot more.

Anyway, not really disagreeing, just making some friendly late July conversation.