GDT: Jackrabbits vs Roos 7pm Swinney Center KCRoos.com

[bigticket1]

Mims and Te Slaa each have four fouls with 14 minutes to go. That's not good. But understandable, given the size of KC's guards.

Te Slaa did everything he could matched up with Mitchell, which was a big physical mismatch.

[bigticket1]

If there is any justice in the world, William Kyle should be Freshman of the Year.

[LetsGoRabbits]

Mims and Te Slaa each have four fouls with 14 minutes to go. That's not good. But understandable, given the size of KC's guards.

first team to very intentionally take advantage of Mim's size. in my mind, i would expect ndsu to use the same philosophy in the coming week

[Jacked_Up]

Wow. Super gutty win. Seven guys vs. 11, and the Jacks hang on to win. The Jacks played zone defense roughly half of the second half. They couldn't have practiced that much in advance, but it seemed to work pretty well. We really need Easley and Arians back for the stretch run and tourney, though.

[bigticket1]

first team to very intentionally take advantage of Mim's size. in my mind, i would expect ndsu to use the same philosophy in the coming week

They don't have any guards in the same class as Allen and Mitchell.

[Jacked_Up]

Mayo with 24 points, and Kyle with 20 and several highlight dunks and defensive plays.

[LetsGoRabbits]

They don't have any guards in the same class as Allen and Mitchell.

yes i agree with you on that. IDK what their 3FG% is. it does not appear to me that either one is particularly excellent shooter, but they are big and physical and do a great job of getting in the paint and getting to the line. i agree with you they are an excellent pair of guards. probably one of the better PAIR in the league

but i also maintain that no other team has really made ANY effort to consistently take Mims into the lane and nobody has tried to post him up almost at all

[GoJacks2011]

We needed that win badly. Guys fought hard the last few games with a super short bench. Hopefully this gives them some confidence and we can clinch a top 2 seed.

[bigticket1]

yes i agree with you on that. IDK what their 3FG% is. it does not appear to me that either one is particularly excellent shooter, but they are big and physical and do a great job of getting in the paint and getting to the line. i agree with you they are an excellent pair of guards. probably one of the better PAIR in the league

but i also maintain that no other team has really made ANY effort to consistently take Mims into the lane and nobody has tried to post him up almost at all

Guards posting up seems to be kind of a lost art. It helps that the Jacks have a pretty good pair of rim protectors in Kyle and Dent.

[LetsGoRabbits]

Guards posting up seems to be kind of a lost art. It helps that the Jacks have a pretty good pair of rim protectors in Kyle and Dent.

we are in agreement here also. the bigger thought is that i dont even think anyone is making much of an effort to take him into the lane. and i guess i give at least SOME of the credit for that to his individual defense and also our bigs for not allowing guards to easily come off of screens and turn the corner

that said it just seems like most teams are making very little effort to put a pretty undersized guard at a disadvantage by putting him in the lane

and while agreeing on the guards posting point, i literally am not sure i have seen it even ONCE this year


the jacks are truly rare in even trying to do this a little both MBB and WBB
WBB used to do it a lot not long ago. it was a regular part of the plan with Macy

they still try to utilize it with Timmer. i guess you would have to debate what position Tori plays but they do it a little with her

MBB tried it a bit with Baylor and some with AA, but yes! i agree with you it seems a weapon that is dying

[LetsGoRabbits]

First of all, how was that not our ball at the end? If we would have lost on that I would have put a hole in my TV.

Secondly, good win, tough stretch and we fought to get one. Rest up and let’s get ready to go again.

Third, I don’t like just putting Mayo in an ISO for the last 10 possessions of the game.

i agree with the idea it seems we are doing this a bit too often. for a program that has been TOTALLY built on ball movement, using ISO a lot seems to really kill ball and player movement

but i also think when we are doing it, we are not often enough using the best plan

i guess maybe you, or others, may not call it an ISO if you utilize a ball screen? but i think there is a difference between using the ball screen as a normal part of the offense as opposed to saying we are putting the ball in this guys hands and letting him make something happen and still using a ball screen as part of that

two things, i dont really think Zeke is that effective using ball screens, especially going from left to right, but either way he just does not come off the screen hard. usually when you are not going hard off the screen, it means you are trying to create a switch. maybe that is what Zeke or the coaches are looking for more than anythnng else??? IDK

but i feel like he could come over the screen harder more than he does and get into the lane. he has been better getting in the lane but he still spends a lot of time dribbling on the ark and using step backs to create 3pt attempts. getting in the lane puts the other defense under pressure and of course, DESPITE 3 misses tonight (NEVER thought i would see him miss 3 in one game), Zeke is one of the best FT shooters i have ever seen and it should really REALLY be a goal to try to get him to the line 10 times a game. maybe seems a lot but it is only about 5 fouls a game (you dont go to the line for EVERY foul)

anyway the first point is, i just dont think he is overly consistently using screens to the best effect

second, when we want a TOTAL ISO it is best to use the 4 low offense. the offense we used on the last possession when he got the final 2 FT

i am not a fan of running 4 low over and over, but it does make it harder to give help early, without just giving up a free player on offense. i feel like the times we have run 4 low with Zeke, he usually does get something good to happen

[LetsGoRabbits]

i did want to say, i thought B Lein played the best game he has played tonight. he looked much better on D and he was very engaged on the boards. had some excellent boxouts even when he did not get the board, but i think he also had 3 boards and a couple of them were very contested

also had a couple nice buckets. just looked more engaged the whole time he was on the floor today

not trying to say he was not engaged before!!!! maybe he is just getting things figured out. when you are feeling lost you would kinda look unengaged because you are trying to figure out what you are doing and pretty much always be a step behind

anyway thought it was good to see)!!

[LetsGoRabbits]

Too bad the FT shooting hasn't matched the defense

yes 13 of 21 is brutal and moreso for one of the top FT shooting teams in the country

Zeke misses 3 (nearly unimaginable. only second time in his career with more than one miss in a game) and Mims (over 80% on season) and Mors (about 90% on season) both miss front ends of 1 and 1s. that is 7 points you would almost automatically put in the books. those things hurt a lot when you are down so many players and playing nothing but down to the wire games

[LetsGoRabbits]

Holy cow. What a bank shot by Mims

yes))!!!!

when he hit that my immediate thought was, well this team deserved a break and they finally got one

about the time i ended that thought Allen hit the answer 3 for them and i thought so much for catching a freaking break!!((( Allen was 0 for 4 before that. and looked disgusting from 3. he and Mitchell were combined 2 of 13 on the night and really do not look good from that distance. so his 3 seemed just as much of an answered prayer as Mims banker

Mitchell has attempted over 210 3s on the year. for reference, Zeke might be at 170 after tonight depending on how fast they update stats.

very interesting that Mitchell can shoot that many 3s and is still leading the conference in FTs made. proves that Zeke should be able to get to the line more than he does, without taking much away from his 3pt game

[salemjack]

LGR I need to meet you man because you got a passion for the Jacks that I don’t think can be rivaled