2/27 DU Game

[UWMandSDSU]

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By correlation, which I admit isn't perfect, Jordan Dykstra also likely would have had better numbers playing DII than the already great numbers he has put up in DI at SDSU.

Probably right, but if SDSU was Div II, we would have never seen Jordan Dykstra in a SDSU uniform.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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Here's what I understand to be the bracket for MBB @ SUMMIT (in order of most likely result IMHO)

1 Seed - NDSU
2 Seed - IPFW w/ Win vs. UNO Sat or SDSU loss, SDSU w/win vs. USD and IPFW Loss vs. UNO or SDSU loss and Denver win @ NDSU and IPFW loss @ UNO
3 Seed - SDSU w/win vs. USD and IPFW win vs. UNO, IPFW w/ Loss @ UNO and Denver loss @ NDSU
4 Seed- Denver if Denver loses at NDSU or IPFW wins vs. UNO, IPFW w/loss to UNO and Denver win @ NDSU
5 Seed - USD
6 Seed - WIU
7 Seed - IUPUI

Bracket:
1 - NDSU Bye to semis Monday vs. winner of 4 & 5
2 - IPFW/SDSU/Denver Saturday vs. IUPUI
3 - SDSU/IPFW Sunday vs. WIU
4 - Denver/IPFW Sunday vs. USD
5 - USD Sunday vs. Denver/IPFW
6 - WIU Sunday vs. SDSU/IPFW
7 - IUPUI Saturday vs. IPFW/SDSU/Denver

Hope that makes sense. The Jacks are now at worst a 3 seed so we won't see NDSU until the finals. For the best case scenario for the Jacks we need to beat USD and root for UNO. That not only makes the Jacks the #2 it gets the Jacks Sunday off. Also, it is best if NDSU beats Denver. That would make the Bison play the winner of the Denver USD first-round game. Denver matches up pretty well with NDSU.

I like the Jacks against anyone in Sioux Falls but NDSU is the obviously the team to beat and they've handled us in the first two meetings. I'm not really big on the whole "it's tough to beat a team three times in a season" thing but we haven't played well against them. We would be the underdog and our team has some seriously good karma on that floor. I think it would be an unreal final. That being said, I'd sure love to play USD or Denver. Sorry Buffalo Chip fans, just shootin' it straight.

The cool thing is that you can make a legit case for any of the top 4 seeds to make a run at the title. It should make for an exciting tournament. Selfishly I hope the Jacks MBB ends up the 2 seed so there are Jacks teams playing on Saturday, Monday, and hopefully Tuesday. Will make for a fun weekend in SF. We've got rooms and staying the weekend.

SUPERBUNNY

[UWMandSDSU]

Re: 2/27 DU Game

Here's what I understand to be the bracket for MBB @ SUMMIT (in order of most likely result IMHO)

1 Seed - NDSU
2 Seed - IPFW w/ Win vs. UNO Sat or SDSU loss, SDSU w/win vs. USD and IPFW Loss vs. UNO , Denver w/win and IPFW and SDSU Loss


SUPERBUNNY

If Denver wins and IPFW and SDSU lose, SDSU gets #2 seed. 3-way tie and SDSU has a 3-1 group record. Denver can't get any higher than a 3-seed.

Terry V. has a breakdown of this in his blog today.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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If Denver wins and IPFW and SDSU lose, SDSU gets #2 seed. 3-way tie and SDSU has a 3-1 group record. Denver can't get any higher than a 3-seed.

Terry V. has a breakdown of this in his blog today.

Thanks, I amended my post. That's a whacky way to back in to a #2. I'd rather just beat USD and take the #3.

SUPERBUNNY

[bigticket1]

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My point is that he went from being a backup with limited production in the minutes he had at SDSU to a player of the year in a DII conference.

By correlation, which I admit isn't perfect, Jordan Dykstra also likely would have had better numbers playing DII than the already great numbers he has put up in DI at SDSU.

I agree with your point. What I didn't agree with was saying he struggled in his year as a Jack when he was buried behind a future NBA player. And wouldn't you expect most D1 players to put up better numbers if they dropped a division ?

[Jacks-02]

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I agree with your point. What I didn't agree with was saying he struggled in his year as a Jack when he was buried behind a future NBA player. And wouldn't you expect most D1 players to put up better numbers if they dropped a division ?

Yes, that was the whole point of my original comment. I don't think its apples and oranges to compare Dykstra's career numbers to Colburn and Tetlzaff as he has done it against better competition.

[jackmd]

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Yes, that was the whole point of my original comment. I don't think its apples and oranges to compare Dykstra's career numbers to Colburn and Tetlzaff as he has done it against better competition.

Assumption. Doesn't hold weight with me. I see no possible way for you to prove this.


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[SUPERBUNNY]

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Do you two realize that there is a whole thread dedicated to Jordan Dykstra? Just sayin'. Let's move it over there. BTW-good for Monaghan! He'd be a backup to Brayden and Bittle. He saw the writing on the wall and made the best call for his situation. Bully for him! Nice kid! Wish him well!

SUPERBUNNY

[Jacks-02]

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Assumption. Doesn't hold weight with me. I see no possible way for you to prove this.


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Prove what? That it isn't an equal comparison of stats because they played in different era's against different competition at different levels of play?

There's nothing to prove.

[jackmd]

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Prove what? That it isn't an equal comparison of stats because they played in different era's against different competition at different levels of play?

There's nothing to prove.

Agree. Opinion. I like yours. Go Jacks.


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[jackmd]

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Watching DVR of last nights game. 10 mins in. My impression? 2 crappy offensive teams playing at a low level. Ugly start to this game. 12-9 with 10 mins gone. Wow.


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[jackmd]

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Next, have to finish easy shots. A foul right at the rim should result in an "and one" more often the it does for Jacks. Finish plays.


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[TK22867]

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One thing is for sure, this Summit league tournament is going to be great! I'm going to make some predictions on the men's side, which I know some of you won't like:

1. NDSU will not make the championship game. Braun will either go cold one game or get in foul trouble, and that will be the end of that.
2. USD is going to make a run to the championship game. That's just a gut feeling. They are due.

I'm ready for the madness to commence!

EDIT: I didn't realize the Bison had a straight bye into the semis. Kind of puts a damper on this year's tournament for me. No team, even SDSU, should get an auto-bid by only winning two games. Yuck.

[RabbitObsessed]

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EDIT: I didn't realize the Bison had a straight bye into the semis. Kind of puts a damper on this year's tournament for me. No team, even SDSU, should get an auto-bid by only winning two games. Yuck.

And your solution would be?

Really, it makes more sense. They've proven they are the best team over 14 games. Not two.

[TK22867]

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And your solution would be?

Really, it makes more sense. They've proven they are the best team over 14 games. Not two.

Never said there was a better solution for this year, smart a$$.

I guess if it makes more sense we should just get rid of all conference tournaments then.